Inheritance according to Qur?an

[Noon waalqalami]

You assign 2/3 to father of a deceased man who had no son to inherit him and instead his Father and Mother are called his Waris. This is because Allah the Exalted has assigned only for mother the 1/3 in this case.

Who has assigned 2/3 to father?
Where is it said that left over will be for such and such person?
Variable means liable to change especially suddenly and unpredictably. Who will decide the change this 2/3?

Peace Mazhar -- use the brain, this is basic common sense logic. IF only parents, no child.

You only need to know one to figure out the other. I don't have time to teach simple logic.

a + b = 1; 1 - a = b; 1 - b = a

1 - 1/3 mother (fixed) = 2/3 father (variable/unstated)

Likewise example: 1 - 1/6 mother (fixed) = 5/6 brother (variable/unstated)

4:11... فإن so if لم not يكن was له to person ولد waladun/child وورثه and heirs أبواه person?s parents فلأمه so to his mother الثلث the third
4:11... فإن so if كان kana/is (masculine) له to person إخوة ikh'wat (i.e. if to person male sibling) فلأمه so to his mother السدس the sixth

You straight go to mathematics for arriving at 1.
Do you accept this injunction as the Part of Inheritance distribution or otherwise like those who might call it Mansukh:

The Oral Bequest in favour of the Mother and Father and the relatively Near Blood relatives, in accordance with the well known norms, has been prescribed-decreed upon you at the point in time when the natural death has approached someone of you people, in case he is leaving behind worldly wealth.
This is mandatory-incumbent upon people who are cautious, heedful and mindful in reverence and fear of Allah the Exalted. [2:180]

Yes at time of death make out a will and if he gets hit by a big rock (no will) distribute according to Qur'an.

Likewise at time of death one can simply say distribute all my property according to Qur'an -- use verses.

[Mazhar]

Peace Mazhar -- use the brain, this is basic common sense logic. IF only parents, no child.

You only need to know one to figure out the other. I don't have time to teach simple logic.

a + b = 1; 1 - a = b; 1 - b = a

1 - 1/3 mother (fixed) = 2/3 father (variable/unstated)

In Law there is no such simple logic. In executing provisions of law, such use of brain is not allowed. In law things are not left in vacuum at the mercy of general public to draw whatever their brains suggests them to infer.

Law is always definite and specific. The principle is laid down. Allah the Exalted is assigning shares by His Will and asking the Dying Person to give his Will for the rest.

[Mazhar]

Quote from: Mazhar on Today at 08:42:46 AM
You straight go to mathematics for arriving at 1.
Do you accept this injunction as the Part of Inheritance distribution or otherwise like those who might call it Mansukh:

The Oral Bequest in favour of the Mother and Father and the relatively Near Blood relatives, in accordance with the well known norms, has been prescribed-decreed upon you at the point in time when the natural death has approached someone of you people, in case he is leaving behind worldly wealth.
This is mandatory-incumbent upon people who are cautious, heedful and mindful in reverence and fear of Allah the Exalted. [2:180]

Yes at time of death make out a will and if he gets hit by a big rock (no will) distribute according to Qur'an.

So he made a will, where would go then your mathematics yielding result 1?

[Noon waalqalami]

In Law there is no such simple logic. In executing provisions of law, such use of brain is not allowed. In law things are not left in vacuum at the mercy of general public to draw whatever their brains suggests them to infer.

Law is always definite and specific. The principle is laid down. Allah the Exalted is assigning shares by His Will and asking the Dying Person to give his Will for the rest.

What is it that you do not understand inheritance verses are to be applied when there is no will?

IF left no will or killed in battle or die instantly or after distribution the wife has a heart attack, etc...

So he made a will, where would go then your mathematics yielding result 1?

It's not mine and whatever they decide the amount is always equal to 1 or the whole!

Example man writes a will $ 3.111 million total inheritance:

$ 1 million to his daughter
$ 1 million to his wife
$ 1 million to his mother
$ 0 to incompetent son
$ 100k to his neighbors
$ 10k throw in street to strangers
$ 1k convert to Russian Rubles then burn it

[Mazhar]

Quote from: Mazhar on Today at 09:26:03 AM
In Law there is no such simple logic. In executing provisions of law, such use of brain is not allowed. In law things are not left in vacuum at the mercy of general public to draw whatever their brains suggests them to infer.

Law is always definite and specific. The principle is laid down. Allah the Exalted is assigning shares by His Will and asking the Dying Person to give his Will for the rest.

What is it that you do not understand inheritance verses are to be applied when there is no will?

IF left no will or killed in battle or die instantly or after distribution the wife has a heart attack, etc...

But brother why you conveniently forget that in all the three Verses where Allah the Exalted assigns shares to particular persons in particular situations, the Bequest is the integral part at all places?

[Mazhar]

It's not mine and whatever they decide the amount is always equal to 1 or the whole!

Example man writes a will $ 3.111 million total inheritance:

$ 1 million to his daughter
$ 1 million to his wife
$ 1 million to his mother
$ 0 to incompetent son
$ 100k to his neighbors
$ 10k throw in street to strangers
$ 1k convert to Russian Rubles then burn it

Again you are presuming things in vacuum. In law there is no such funny things. The Bequest is in favour of Mother and Father, and the Relatively Nearer Blood Relatives.

[Mazhar]

hat is it that you do not understand inheritance verses are to be applied when there is no will?

Thereby, acording to your variable formula, if there is a Will, the Verses are not to be applied. Are you suggesting this?

[Noon waalqalami]

But brother why you conveniently forget that in all the three Verses where Allah the Exalted assigns shares to particular persons in particular situations, the Bequest is the integral part at all places?

Thereby, acording to your variable formula, if there is a Will, the Verses are not to be applied. Are you suggesting this?

Peace, I forget nothing! 4:11 ... من from (means to subtract) بعد after وصية a will يوصي have made بها in it أو or دين judgment

1 - 100% (if left will to distribute the whole) =   0% amount to be distributed
1 -    0% (if deceased has left no will at all) = 100% amount to be distributed

[Mazhar]

Peace, I forget nothing! 4:11 ... من from (means to subtract) بعد after وصية a will يوصي have made بها in it أو or دين judgment

1 - 100% (if left will to distribute the whole) =   0% amount to be distributed
1 -    0% (if deceased has left no will at all) = 100% amount to be distributed

What I had stated verbally what you think about distribution of inheritance, you have simply endorsed that in mathematical way.

"judgment" decreed by whom?

[Noon waalqalami]

What I had stated verbally what you think about distribution of inheritance, you have simply endorsed that in mathematical way.

"judgment" decreed by whom?

Yes, if they see it good or fair to leave nothing to certain relatives or leave everything to one child -- up to them!

Without a will or partial will, inheritance verses kick in to arbitrate and avoid bickering among different inheritors.