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Rejected Hadith's?

Started by Sebs, November 14, 2004, 12:32:34 PM

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Tony

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Salaam for all,

I Know that it is very late to reply about this , But I'm new in this forum .
you must know that today, a sect exists, called "Quranites" who comment according to their whims and fancies; without seeking the explanation of the authentic Sunnah.
That sect exists only in the minds of the Sunnites who coined that term in reference to those who take the Quran alone as the sole source of instruction regarding deen.

QuoteThey only accept and follow the Sunnah which suit their desires, the rest they throw behind.
We only accept Sunnat' Allah ( 33:38, 33:62) We do not accept the sunnah of bukhary and company.  

QuoteIt is a matter of regret that one renowned scholar has written a book on Islamic Law and its dogma, and in its preface, he says that he has written it and that he has made reference only to the Qur'an.
This true hadith gives positive evidence that the divine law of Islam - As-Shariah - is not mere Qur'an, but Qur'an and Sunnah. Therefore, whoever hold fast ton one source for reference to the exclusion of the other, he held fast to none of them, since both complement each other.
The Qur'an says "Whoever obeys the Messanger, obeys Allah". Allah says: "No, by your Lord, they do not believe until they submit to your adjudication in all disputes between them, then they do not find themselves oppressed with your decisions and they completely submit." (4:65)

Again, Allah says: "When a matter has been decided by Allah and His Messanger, it does not behove a believer, man or woman, to have choice in their matter. One who disobeys Allah and His Messanger, he is indeed on a clearly wrong Path." (33:36)
It is a pity that you reject the path of those who follow God alone. Following the messenger is indeed following God. But following the messenger has a condition.

4:64. And We did not send any messenger but that he should be obeyed by Allah's permission...

How do you know that hadith and sunnah are permitted by God to be obeyed by man, if indeed those are from Muhammad himself?

We have God's word. Isn't it enough for you? The words of a messenger that is 100% permitted and approved to be obeyed by God?

69: 40.  That this is verily the word of an honoured messenger;

QuoteFurthermore, Allah says: "What the Messanger teaches you, take it; and what he forbids you, avoid doing it."(59:7)

Thanks to all

That is a corrupt application of that part of the verse. That phrase refers to the war booty to be distributed. Nothing to do with hadith and sunnah.

59:  7.  Whatever Allah has restored to His Messenger from the people of the towns, it is for Allah and for the Messenger, and for the near of kin and the orphans and the needy and the wayfarer, so that it may not be a thing taken by turns among the rich of you, and whatever the Messenger gives you, accept it, and from whatever he forbids you, keep back, and be careful of (your duty to) Allah; surely Allah is severe in retributing (evil):

Danish

Peace,

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I think that I don't have any problem in my understanding because it is clear that Allah in his book (Noble Quraan) call to follow the prophet mohameed which is represented in his Hadith
Yes, "his hadith", which is the Quran. Anything other than the Quran are/were not "his hadiths" but others, i.e. Bukhari and enterprise.

shamsul-arefin

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How we accepted  the Truth of Quraan which was  transmitted  by Mohammed (SAAS) ? How we trust that he transmitted the right verses of Quraan ???


So this is the Question which makes u fall for Bukhary and co just to justify your point ???

Quran is a book of message........It talks about natural system. you do research to find the consistency in It's message than verify. If you think its message is good for mankind than take it or do whatever u feel is best. Its that simple. We dont need to complicate things and fight over human characters..

peace

zainab

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I think that I don't have any problem in my understanding because it is clear that Allah in his book (Noble Quraan) call to follow the prophet mohameed which is represented in his Hadith

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Walaikum Salaam New Friend ..
Please keep in mind, following the Glorious Qur'aan surely means following the beloved Prophet (pbuh).  But following the so-called Hadeeth does NOT at all necessarily mean following the Qur'aan nor following the Prophet.