Hello Folks, Fawzia here! I was a Quranist for 10 months.

[Fawzia]

I am Fawzia, from an Iranian Shia family. I was a Shia for all my childhood & some of my teens, then appalled by some hadiths, I decided to try & salvage my faith by sticking to the Quran alone.

However, I have ceased to be a Quranist Muslim, I am agnostic ex Muslim now. I hope I can contribute here.

[Rev.John]

 

[dc2]

Welcome Fawzia, Glad you joined and good to have your perspective here. did you grow up in Iran and did you know other Qur'anists? Did your family know?

[sarah_bd_gemini]

However, I have ceased to be a Quranist Muslim, I am agnostic ex Muslim now. I hope I can contribute here.

Feel completely free to post. Good questions (i.e. ones that make you start thinking) are just as important as answers. Questioning one's assumptions are vital to spiritual growth and understanding


Peace
Sarah

[MUNZIR ALI]

I am Fawzia, from an Iranian Shia family. I was a Shia for all my childhood & some of my teens, then appalled by some hadiths, I decided to try & salvage my faith by sticking to the Quran alone.

However, I have ceased to be a Quranist Muslim, I am agnostic ex Muslim now. I hope I can contribute here.

[Fawzia]

Thank you for the warm welcome everyone!

Welcome Fawzia, Glad you joined and good to have your perspective here. did you grow up in Iran and did you know other Qur'anists? Did your family know?

Yes, I grew up in Iran, I'm from an upper middle class family in Iran. My mom's family was more devout than my dad's. One of my uncles had even become Communist before the Iranian revolution, & wanted to overthrow of the Shah to be followed by a Communist state,rather than an Islamic theocracy.Now he lives in Britain, is a millionaire & says that while he's still a non believer, he's not commie anymore. Mom's family was devoutly Muslim & my mom is still a regularly practicing Muslim.

One of my first cousins from my mom's side is a hadith rejector, she's one of the smartest & nicest people I know. She lives in Germany with her husband & kids, her husband was a non practicing Protestant who too converted to Quranist Islam.

I found her family much more enlightened than most hadith acceptors, & they had a very satisfying faith, so I decided to give it a try.The mosm important influence was these Quranist sites, I spent hours online reading all their material & would sometimes mentally argue with them.

However, I find that many stuff in the Quran are also not very acceptable to me, somehow if I had to be intellectually honest, I couldn't call myself a Muslim.I felt that if I was rejecting all the hadiths, at least all the Quran should be stuff I find morally correct.

I don't think any God would like it if I falsely pretended & God would see through this pretence.

In addition, while my life has been quite free from discrimination(I don't have anyAyaan Hirsi Ali type sob stories) & my parents were fully accepting of my apostasy & most Muslims too haven't harassed me in anyway for leaving Islam-a very unpleasant incident had happened to an aunt of mine, which I felt was due to the Quran. That forced me to finally leave Islam altogether.

[abdalquran]

Dear Fawzia,

On behalf of all the Quranists, I'd like to nominate you for 'Quranist of the Year' award for your outstanding scholarship and awareness of Quranist issues and methodology on reading  the Quran. Wow, I must say, I've never encountered your kind of brilliance and objectivity before. Tell me, are you married? If not, I'd like to propose marriage to you. I'm sure all our kids will be 'Super-Quranists' thanks to your genes.

Let me quote to you some what you said so we can understand your brilliance.


Fawzia:

-a very unpleasant incident had happened to an aunt of mine, which I felt was due to the Quran. That forced me to finally leave Islam altogether

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YES ! That's brilliant. Because the Quran has NEVER been misappopriated or mistranslated. All the 'sciences' of understanding the Quran like 'ABROGATION' must be true. Wow.



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I do not need or want to study Arabic-it has little use in the world, thanks to Islam.

No no, of course we don?t. We can and should trust ALL translators. In fact, the more they are ?against? Islam, the more we should believe them because they are incapable of lies.

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Of course,like many unpleasant stuff, Muslims might now like to change this, like they changed "beat" to "leave

Yes yes yes! How dare these people try to change what has been written in stone! After all ,the people who understood the Quran before us were the most brilliant human beings on earth. They actually thought Muhammad was bewitched and didn?t  know what he saying.

Also, there is Fatima & Ali's marriage as a precedent

Yes yes. And we must blame the Quran for this too, since it?s in surah 116, ayah 320. Good point there, Fawzia.


Wow Fawzia, you?re so intelligent. May I inquire , are you a professor of logic at Harvard or Oxford? If so, I?d love to visit you some time. I?m pretty sure you?ll win this ?Quranist of the Year? award. There is only one another nominee : Geert Wilders (but I wouldn?t like to propose to him).

[MUNZIR ALI]

Dear Fawzia,

On behalf of all the Quranists, I'd like to nominate you for 'Quranist of the Year' award for your outstanding scholarship and awareness of Quranist issues and methodology on reading  the Quran. Wow, I must say, I've never encountered your kind of brilliance and objectivity before. Tell me, are you married? If not, I'd like to propose marriage to you. I'm sure all our kids will be 'Super-Quranists' thanks to your genes.

Let me quote to you some what you said so we can understand your brilliance.


Fawzia:.

YES ! That's brilliant. Because the Quran has NEVER been misappopriated or mistranslated. All the 'sciences' of understanding the Quran like 'ABROGATION' must be true. Wow.



and
No no, of course we don?t. We can and should trust ALL translators. In fact, the more they are ?against? Islam, the more we should believe them because they are incapable of lies.

and
Yes yes yes! How dare these people try to change what has been written in stone! After all ,the people who understood the Quran before us were the most brilliant human beings on earth. They actually thought Muhammad was bewitched and didn?t  know what he saying.
Yes yes. And we must blame the Quran for this too, since it?s in surah 116, ayah 320. Good point there, Fawzia.


Wow Fawzia, you?re so intelligent. May I inquire , are you a professor of logic at Harvard or Oxford? If so, I?d love to visit you some time. I?m pretty sure you?ll win this ?Quranist of the Year? award. There is only one another nominee : Geert Wilders (but I wouldn?t like to propose to him).

Abdal this is really funny.

[progod]

AbdalQuran,

Although your sarcasm might be offensive to some, I think you did a good job of not trying to sound too offensive but driving your point home as well. You hit up Fawzia on some really good points that I'm sure she has not fully thought through. Although I would love to know what that incident with her aunt was that the Quran is to blame for. And I love her accusation that Quranists have changed 'beat' to 'leave.' I guess you can't expect her to understand the language aspect of this if she's not even interested in Arabic. I personally accept both 'hit' (it's not beat) AND leave. But if you don't take the whole Quran into context anyone who only wants to follow part of the Quran and follow the rest of their desires will not take other passsages that talk about excessiveness, extremism and trying to harm fellow believers or anyone unjustly. But anyway, I'll just wait to see how she's going to reply to your post (it was funny, wierd, but funny). And I hope she goes into detail about her aunt. Besides that I want to state that as a Quranist I respect her right to choose whatever she wants to believe, even if it does entail a degree of ignorance or unjustified bias. It is her choice. So yeah, Fawzia pls explain about your aunt and I promise you that I will do my best not to ridicule you or disparage you. Although I might be dissapointed and have less respect for you (the opposite could occur) but I will always respect your God given rights to belief and disbelief in the Quran and/or faithfulness and unfaithfulness to God and/or willful ignorance or willful education and pursuit of of understanding and knowledge.

Godbless,
Anwar

[amin]

Fawzia,

Welcome, belief in GOD and Goodness is the ultimate thing, not belief in Quran or written words.  Quran ALONE makes no sense as God's guidance is everywhere right here before our eyes.