The fruits He made in pairs. (13:3)

[hawk99]

Anyway the fruitree always have male and female parts. This could be the pairs referring to in 13:3

Agreed

Thank you NielsJacob for this very enlightening subject, I am enjoying it very much.
The implications of this subject are very broad and sets the stage for the examination
of "pairs" throughout creation.

51:49 And of all things We created two mates; perhaps you will remember.

36:36 Exalted is He who created all pairs - from what the earth grows and from
themselves and from that which they do not know.


God bless



               

     

             

 

[NielsJacob]

Peace hawk99

Thank you NielsJacob for this very enlightening subject, I am enjoying it very much.

The implications of this subject are very broad and sets the stage for the examination
of "pairs" throughout creation.

Yes you are right. It could be nice to exam it well.
I saw some at Answering-Christanity but I didn?t found their explanation complete.

Did you see my last post:

What about this simple explanation:

There are no such thing as single fruit production.

On the tree there are always more than one fruit.
Not like for instant a carrot which isn?t a fruit and therefor appears alone.

If the production of fruit is limited to one its only due to human hand interference.

This explanation seems to simple but could be the case. (Please I need respond on this one)

If this a fact it could be really amassing.

Have you seen a single fruit on any plant?

I now truing to see if thats the case. So for I haven?t found any fruit that are produced alone.

God bless you too.

[truthseeker11]

Peace Niels Jacob,

Anyway the fruitree always have male and female parts. This could be the pairs referring to in 13:3

As huruf pointed out, the problem is 13:3 doesn't say "pair" referring to 2, but says "two pairs" referring to 4.

What about this simple explanation:

There are no such thing as single fruit production.

On the tree there are always more than one fruit.
Not like for instant a carrot which isn?t a fruit and therefor appears alone.

If the production of fruit is limited to one its only due to human hand interference.

This explanation seems to simple but could be the case. (Please I need respond on this one)

Same problem. 13:3 says "two pairs" meaning a total of 4. Are fruits always produced in fours?

Back to square one; this seems to be a serious contradiction in the quran.

May the infinite Creator guide us to the truth.

[huruf]

No, I did not say four, I said one plus one each of them from a different pair. One from one pair or couple, another from another pair or couple. The ithnain is there to assert that it is just two we are considering, not four. Two members of a pair but not of th same pair but from different pairs.

It may sound unusual as a formulation but quite logical.

At least I do not see any reason that makes impossible that understanding. It is also a formulation which is used in legal and accounting parlance at least in Spanish.

Salaam

[good logic]

Peace Trurhseeker.

Where do you get "four" from.

In fact the verse insist that it is " Ithnain" Look:

وَهُوَ الَّذى مَدَّ الأَرضَ وَجَعَلَ فيها رَوٰسِىَ وَأَنهٰرًا وَمِن كُلِّ الثَّمَرٰتِ جَعَلَ فيها زَوجَينِ اثنَينِ يُغشِى الَّيلَ النَّهارَ إِنَّ فى ذٰلِكَ لَـٔايٰتٍ لِقَومٍ يَتَفَكَّرونَ

Does "Zoujain" " Ithnain" mean four to you?

To me it means in pairs of two-Males and females"!

GOD bless you.
Peace.

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[hicham9]

Zwgyn ʔṯnyn (زوجين اثنين) means: two mates [= 1 pair]

~ the (semitic) root zwg is related to: joining.

SLM

[Mazhar]

How do we acquire knowledge? Were creation not binary could we save anything in memory?

[truthseeker11]

Peace all,

My mistake! I misunderstood what huruf said earlier.

Question: Why add "ithnain" to "zawjayn" when "zawjayn" itself means 2 mates?

It still doesn't make any sense. Do plants have "one plus one, each of them from a different pair"?

Why only "zawjayn" in 51:49 and not "zawjayn ithnain"?

Peace

[hicham9]

According to the Qurān, everything is subject to the law of duality/dichotomy.
G-D is not a thing. Therefore only G-D is ONE.

[Mazhar]

زَوْجَيْنِ اثْنَيْنِ : It is adjectival phrase. Those who know the classification system of plants might enlighten us.
And rendered in all fruits a duality of pairing-families.