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NielsJacob

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The fruits He made in pairs. (13:3)
« on: March 06, 2015, 04:32:00 AM »
Peace
I want to exam the quote whee its said "The fruit he made i pairs" (13:3)

Cause I seen it claimed that this is a contradiction.

I know that there are male and female trees. But I don't think its all of them, or? Maybe the quote refraining specific to the fruits trees?

Do you have any knowledge concerning this issue please share it.
I?m also pretty sure that there are some post her. Just I cant find them.

Thanks

May God direct us.

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Re: The fruits He made in pairs. (13:3)
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2015, 12:03:43 AM »
I did some research  now myself.
I found out that every fruit need female flower to produce fruit. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plant_reproductive_morphology#Dioecious
Sometimes the fruit can be produced without the male as: parthenocarpy (literally meaning virgin fruit) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parthenocarpy
The plant do so sometimes because it can have some use of producing without seeds. The seedless fruits are easier to produce and some animal prefer them so the seeded ones are not the one there are being eated.
But the plant therefor don't do so with all the fruits
There are many different occurrences of the gender/sexes. Like they can change, an be both. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plant_reproductive_morphology#Dioecious

So all in all I think we can conclude that the fruit always comes as male and female. Just in many variations and combinations.

I thank God that his word is proven truth.
Please correct me if I?m wrong
Peace.

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Re: The fruits He made in pairs. (13:3)
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2015, 02:44:03 AM »
Salaam,

The word used in the aayaat given is الثَّمَرَاتِ which also includes grains, cereals, spices, etc. along with fruits. It means any fruit that a tree or plant bears.

The proper word for fruits like mango, apple, grapes, etc. the word used is فَوَاكِهُ  as in 23:19.

This is how I understand, I might be wrong completely.


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Re: The fruits He made in pairs. (13:3)
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2015, 03:21:55 AM »
Peace of God mmkhan

Thank you.

That make sence in some way.
But what about the context, when we know that on the fruittree, there are male and female parts?

Could you please help me with the word pairs? Could the explanation be in this word?
How is the fruit made in pairs?

May god guide us.

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Re: The fruits He made in pairs. (13:3)
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2015, 04:02:53 AM »
Mmkhan,

Perhaps we could say that the word you first suggested means something like "crops", i.e. plant grown naturally or agriculturally for food and is a group name for all vegetation that can be consumed or grow seeds enveloped in a package which can be eaten (apple, banana, orange etc).

We need to realize Arabic words are very descriptive in what they like to say, very literally so.

For example, vegetables are often containing the letter for example: ث (like).

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Re: The fruits He made in pairs. (13:3)
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2015, 10:22:23 AM »
It looks to me, it talks about action and reaction,

The fruits are in pairs, ie. action and reaction. That verse looks to be talking about nature and its creation by God.

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Re: The fruits He made in pairs. (13:3)
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2015, 10:51:59 AM »
Gods peace amin

But doesn?t that make it all pretty complicated. Like there is some hidden meaning?
I think that the messeage shouldn?t be that distinct, or?

Maybe its because I dont get the meaning then....


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Re: The fruits He made in pairs. (13:3)
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2015, 11:56:12 AM »
Peace

13:3  And it is He who spread the earth and placed therein firmly set mountains and rivers; and
from all of the fruits He made therein two mates; He causes the night to cover the day. Indeed in
that are signs for a people who give thought.

The verse speaks of pollination or the continuance of the fruit species.

Some monoecious fruit tree flowers are often referred to as "perfect" flowers, meaning both the
female and male parts are contained in the same flower. Others monoecious fruit trees have
separate male and female flowers but on the same tree.


Some types of fruit trees require two trees to insure a fruit crop -- but not all do. Flowering plants,
including fruit trees, require pollination before fruit is produced. When pollen, the male contribution,
finds its way to the female structure, fertilization occurs and a fruit is born. Whether or not two trees
are needed depends on whether the plant produces both male and female flowers or only one of the two.

http://homeguides.sfgate.com/need-two-same-kind-trees-produce-fruit-89155.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollination

The Quran is amazing!

God bless

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Re: The fruits He made in pairs. (13:3)
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2015, 11:59:21 AM »
Fruit comes with both sexes. That's what is meant.
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Re: The fruits He made in pairs. (13:3)
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2015, 12:40:55 PM »
Peace hawk99

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Flowering plants,
including fruit trees, require pollination before fruit is produced
Not all. Please see my second post in this treath.