Peace to Those Who Follow the Guidance
I'd like to answer the Heretics on this forum and the points of this article below
My writing is in blue insha'Allah
Quote1. Quran Only Muslims?
The use of such name, or the name ?Quraniyoon? or any other derivative of a name other than ?Muslim? is a malicious attempt to label the followers of God and His messenger with a name other than what they have given themselves and other than what God has authorized. The name of the believers in God is and has always been ?Muslims? since the days of our father Abraham. Those who follow other than the path of the messenger will never be able to hold that name and must, by design, name themselves with the name of their sects ?Sunni, Shia, etc.?
?And strive in the cause of God its truly deserved striving. He is the One who has chosen you, and He has made no hardship for you in the system, the creed of your father Abraham; He is the One who named you ?those who have submitted? (Muslimeen) from before and in this. So let the messenger be witness over you and you be witness over the people. So hold the contact prayer and contribute towards purification and hold tight to God, He is your patron. What an excellent Patron, and what an excellent Supporter.? (Qur?an 22:78)
You are Called Quraniyoon because you reject the islamic traditions, that have passed down generation after generation.
2. How do you know how to pray using the Quran alone?
The answer to this oft repeated question is two-fold:
a) The 5 daily Salat that the sects are searching for with their rakkas and steps were never authorized by God and have been taken from their self-invented books of Hadith. Therefore, to search the Qur?an for these details is like searching the Injeel that Jesus delivered for the teachings of the trinity.
This is wrong, Allah tells us that in the prayer You Stand, you prostrate, and you bow. Now what is the Order? Do you start praying by bowing? Than you Stand? Than You Prostrate? Can I do it anyway I want? You'd probably say if you were following someone you follow them. Now everything the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him did would be under the watchful eye of Allah. If the Companions were following him in prayer they would surely follow the way he did prayer. Now Allah says about the noble messenger peace be upon him that
[068:004]Indeed, you certainly bear the highest moral character.
The word for Character used was Khuluq. Your Khuloq is the way you act, the way you are. Now Allah was commenting on the way he carries on his life, yes one of the arguments for the sunnah is the use of the word "obey Allah and Obey his Messenger" but there is also these verses
[3:31] Sahih International
Say, [O Muhammad], "If you should love Allah, then follow me, [so] Allah will love you and forgive you your sins. And Allah is Forgiving and Merciful."
How are we suppose to Follow the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him if we do not even know how he lived? Or what he ordered? Real life is not how you lot paint it. There are specific circumstances that can't just be done with however you like. So if he has the best moral character, and it was told to follow him so Allah can love him, wouldn't the most logical thing be to dictate his life and how he lived and the closest ones around him?
b) The Qur?an has immense details on the Salat that God has taught His prophets throughout the ages, from its timing (see 11:114, 17:78, 2:238, 24:58), to its preparation (see 5:6), to its style (see 2:239), to its tone (see 17:110), to its length of units/rakkas (see 4:102), to its ending (see 17:111).
Let us look at the verses
Without going into this too much, are you telling me that the Muslim Ummah has been misguided for over 1400 years!?
Now 4:102 does not really specify the prayer.
Now there are more questions regarding Prayer. Allah talks about the call for prayer, how do we make that call to prayer?
3. How do you know how much Zakaah to pay using the Quran alone?
Giving charity is defined in the Qur?an as ?the excess? (see 2:219). The 2.5% is a fabrication of the sects from the books of Hadith which are designed to rival God?s teachings. Having said that, it must be pointed out that there is a ?tax? defined in the Qur?an being ?one fifth? (see 8:41) which is to be distributed to a set list.
The hadith are not books, but are narrations that have been preserved in books. Now letsbe realistic, in a real Islamic Government (which Allah has promised the sahaba in plenty of verses) You can't just suspect people to give how ever much someone wants.
4. Hadn't the Quran been reached to us from the same sources we received our authentic hadith?
No it hasn?t. The original Qur?an was written by the prophet (see 25:5) and arranged into its current arrangement before his death (see 16:101-102). Therefore, what was passed on was simply a copy of the original without any amendment, opinion, or interference.
Now this is the Question i wanted to tackle. The Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him is said to be illiterate even in the Quran. Now the Quran at the time of the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him was all memorized. Lets look at those verses you have put down
[16:101] Sahih International
And when We substitute a verse in place of a verse - and Allah is most knowing of what He sends down - they say, "You, [O Muhammad], are but an inventor [of lies]." But most of them do not know.
[16:102] Sahih International
Say, [O Muhammad], "The Pure Spirit has brought it down from your Lord in truth to make firm those who believe and as guidance and good tidings to the Muslims."
what does this have to do with the arrangement of the Quran? and commanded about its arrangement? AS well the earliest Mushaf we have is 100 years after the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him, around the time of Imam Ibn Hanbal and Imam Malik. Who narrated to us hadith. Would it be logical to say that the Quran was made 100 years after the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him? NEVER THAT! Now look at this plain and simple the way we have Quran is its narration, which is much more powerful than its written. The same scholars RIGHT NOW who have given us hadith have chains all the way to the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him. Like this guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iO44Tddn-0
5. Why would Allah preserve the Quran and not preserve the meaning?
The meaning is preserved for those who are sincere (see 56:79), while for the rejecters it can never be clear (see 41:44).
The verse you have quoted out of context
[56:79] Sahih International
None touch it except the purified.
The word for "sincere" is actually purified. And the word purified in arabic is Mutaharoon. Which human being is completely pure? At All times? Its not talking about the human being but the angel like in these verses.
[It is recorded] in honored sheets, (13) Exalted and purified, (14) [Carried] by the hands of messenger-angels, (15) Noble and dutiful.
look at the arabic explanation why
Ayah 15:
بِأَيْدِي سَفَرَةٍ
[Carried] by the hands of messenger-angels,
bi aydee safarah
in the hands/disposal of safarah/scribes.
Safarah - sifr - book that unveils things.
Scribes that take record from the Lawh al Mahfoodh and unveil it to the Messengers' through revelation. Others say it refers to the scribes of the Messenger of Allah - his
companions, who hear the Qur'an from Allah's Messenger and transcribeit.
Majority view is the Angels, based on the next ayah.
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Ayah 16:
كِرَامٍ بَرَرَةٍ
Noble and dutiful.
kiraamin bararah.
bararah - plural of barr بَرَرَ (without alif in the middle). = goodness andsomeone extremely good.
baar بَارَ [with alif in the middle] - someone who is good, but not as good as barr بَرَرَ.
The plural of baar بَارَ = abraar ابَرَارَ
More poweful plural of baar = bararahبَرَرَةٍ.
bararah بَرَرَةٍ - jam'u kathrah. (alot)
Abraar ابَرَارَ - jam'u qilah. (a few).
The Angels are grouped as bararah, and humans as abraar because thereare alot more angels who are good in comparison to few good humans.
Angels are Entirely righteous. The most noble and righteous of angels are the Qur'ans scribes. This is the same message [Qur'an] you [disbelievers] hear, and if you
don't benefit from it - you are in loss, not those who are better than you.
This is a reply of Allah to His Messenger who is always at extremegrief because they do notbelieve. Allah is continuously ensuring him that if they don't want tobelieve,
they are the ones at loss.
After giving the upper hand to the message itself, we return back to the matter of the human being.
And Who are you to say who is pure and who is not?
41:44
And if We had made it a non-Arabic Qur'an, they would have said, "Why are its verses not explained in detail [in our language]? Is it a foreign [recitation] and an Arab [messenger]?" Say, "It is, for those who believe, a guidance and cure." And those who do not believe - in their ears is deafness, and it is upon them blindness. Those are being called from a distant place. (44)
This verse is speaking about the language of the Quran. Now keep in mind most people who study hadith, do not memorize them but memorize Quran, I myself am trying to memorize the whole thing. This verse is also talking about the Kuffar who are blind and def.
6. How much is the Jizyah that the People of the Book have to pay?
The taxation of a people because of their faith can only be found in the books of Hadith (the same books which condone stoning people to death, owning slaves, killing people for apostasy, etc.). The Qur?an imposes no tax on any people because of their race/creed/faith. The ?Jizya? that the Qur?an speaks about in 9:29 is ?reparation? that the people of the Book had to pay for their hostile actions against the system of God.
This is untrue, the people of the book are commanded to be fought until they pay the jizya. Actually how do you know that it was because of there fighting against Allah's system? What is the context of these verses? When were they revealed? Why does Surah Tawba not have a "Bismillah" in the begginning?
7. Does the Quran say that cross dressing is haram?
Male and female dress is a function of culture. The Gulf Arabs wear what would be considered ?dresses? in the West, as do the Scotish with their ?kilts?. The Qur?an gives guidelines for what is the minimum dress code required of men and women (see 24:30-31).
8. The Quran says that men could beat up their wives. But we know according to hadith that this is a spiritual beating and not a harmful physical. What is to stop a man from misinterpreting the Quran and beating the hell out of his wife?
The Qur?an says that, in a man fearing his wife deserting him ?nushooz?, one of the options to be observed is ?idriboohun?. The Hadith followers take this word to mean ?beat/strike? due to their hostility towards women and how they think they should be treated. Whilst, in the Qur?an, the word ?Idrib? is also given the meaning of ?put forth/go forth? (see 14:24, 2:273, 4:94). In selecting the most appropriate meaning to fit the context (as commanded in 39:18), the best meaning word is to ?separate from them? (i.e. the first option in dealing with a woman who wants to desert her husband is to talk to her, the second is to sleep separately, the third is to separate). The Hadith followers would prefer beating her into submission, but somehow that does not seem to address the topic being addressed in the verse.
The word used has a lot of meanings to it, you have tadabbur, idrib, idribhoon. And why use the word Idrib when Allah can use the word Talaq? You know in reality talaq is a very disliked act to do, the context of this verse shows that you want to solve the problem, thats why in the Quran Allah tells us to have taqwa of Allah almost every verse pertaining to divorce in surah baqara. Its a serious Issue.
Speaking of divorce, who is this man zayd mentioned in the Quran?
[033:037] And recall that man (Zayd)? Allah had done favors upon him, and you had too. You were saying to him, ?Fear Allah, keep your wife and do not divorce her.? Allah was going to bring out into the open that which you kept hidden in your heart at that time. You were afraid of people, although that is Allah?s right! You should fear Him only! When Zayd had completed his object (of divorcing his wife), We married her to you. (We did that) so the believers may have no restriction in (and may have no stigma attached to) marrying the former wives of their adopted sons, provided the adopted sons had already divorced their wives. The commands of Allah must be fulfilled!
What is the context of this verse? And Who is Zayd?
9. Is it permissible for a man to look at a naked man?
A man?s private areas must be covered at all times in the presence of other people except their spouses (24:30, 23:5-6).
10. Can I pray Salaah naked?
If there are no people present in-front of whom ones private parts must be covered, then, yes.
So being naked in front of Allah and worshiping him does not bother you at all?
11. How do we know the order of the alcohol revelations? Maybe the first of the Quranic revelations said it was haram and then the later ones came saying that is was okay except during prayer times. How do you know the order of its revelations by using the Quran alone?
Alcohol has never been made forbidden in any Quranic verse, which makes it permissible. However, there are guidelines as to its use and a warning as to its negative effects (see 4:43, 5:90, 2:219).
Woow, even the kuffar know that alchohol is bad.
[002:219] They ask you (O Muhammad SAW) concerning alcoholic drink and gambling. Say: "In them is a great sin, and (some) benefit for men, but the sin of them is greater than their benefit." And they ask you what they ought to spend. Say: "That which is beyond your needs." Thus Allah makes clear to you His Laws in order that you may give thought."
[005:090] O you who believe! Intoxicants (all kinds of alcoholic drinks), gambling, AlAnsab, and AlAzlam (arrows for seeking luck or decision) are an abomination of Shaitans (Satan) handiwork. So avoid (strictly all) that (abomination) in order that you may be successful.
These two verses are clear, are you telling me that Allah says that which has a little bit of benefit should still be avoided, and calling it shaytaan does not show it to be totally haram? I think you are the def dumb and blind one.
12. It says in the Quran to shorten the prayer when you travel. How long do you have to travel? How short to cut the prayer?
The Qur?an allows the shortening of Salat in case of an enemy being present (see 4:101). The normal unit for Salat is 2 rakas ?prostrations?, shortening the Salat becomes 1 raka ?prostration? (see 4:102).
There are nothing in these verses that say 2 rakat.
Or 1 rakat
13. In Surah 66:3, the Prophet told his wives that he knew because Allah had informed him about it. Show me a Quranic verse where Allah had informed the Prophet about it. You cannot. Does this not prove that there are revelations to Prophet Muhammad besides the Quran?
There are many communications between God and His messengers that are designed to be private (such as the inspirations given to Jacob, or the dream given to Abraham, or the inspiration given Joseph, etc.) and even some communication between God and some regular humans (such as the mother of Moses being inspired to place him in the river). This does not mean that such communication is meant for the public, nor does it mean that such communication is law. The only communication that we regard as law is the Qur?an which has been defined by God as such (see 5:48).
Those examples you named are of past messengers and those communications were revealed amongst those messengers. We are speaking of the final messenger.
14. Surah 2:173 shows that Allah (swt) gave an order for the Muslims to change their Qibla from (Bayt Al Maqdis in Jerusalem) to the Kabah in Mecca. However, there is no Quranic verse that shows the first order that Allah gave to make the Qibla towards Jerusalem. Does this not prove that there are revelations to Prophet Muhammad besides the Quran?
The original Qibla given to the prophet was to set himself wherever he chose (see 2:115) for God encompasses the east and the west. Later on, the Qibla was reversed as a test for the believers (see 2:142), and then was firmly established as being set towards the Restricted Temple (see 2:144).
[2:115] Sahih International
And to Allah belongs the east and the west. So wherever you [might] turn, there is the Face of Allah. Indeed, Allah is all-Encompassing and Knowing.
15. The Quran is passed on to us by Mutawattir narrations. Mutawattir narrations are narrations by so many people that it is just impossible for all of them to get together and plot and lie. However, we have so many Mutawattir hadith List of Mutawatir hadith http://hadith.al-islam.com/bayan/Index.asp?Lang=ENG&Type=3 that teach things that are not in the Quran. How can you reject their authenticity with no objective evidence?
The Qur?an has been passed via a physical book that was first penned and arranged by the prophet himself (see 25:5, 16:101-102); therefore, to give any credit to ?others? so as to raise the level of their legitimacy is to undermine the work of God and His messenger. As for the notion that it is impossible for so many people to collaborate on a lie, we would cite the teachings of today?s Christianity with the trinity and son of God concept are the clearest proof that it is indeed probable and possible to lie about God and His messenger, and that billions of people unknowingly continue to carry and propagate the lie as if it were truth.
I've answered this above, the fact is the one who has given us hadith were the same ones to give us the Quran. Now to compare Christianity to Islam is a fault on your part, why? Because Christianity did not become such a wide spread lie until Islam came into place, there were a lot of Tawheed loving Christians before the advent of Islam, but the closer to the time of the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him the more less they became. This is because the only true deen is the deen of Allah, and Allah has said that
[61:9] Sahih International
It is He who sent His Messenger with guidance and the religion of truth to manifest it over all religion, although those who associate others with Allah dislike it.
I'll ask you what i ask the shia, do you honestly believe after the first generation of the Muslims that Allah will just allow the Muslim Ummah to fall so easily?
God tells us that the Qur?an is detailed (see 6:114), complete (see 6:115), and a clarification for all things (see 16:89). Yet, the Hadith followers dare to challenge such assertions made by the Almighty to defend the precious idols they have created!
What idols? :S Muslims are the strictest towards the mushrikun.
Unfortunately, no matter how abhorring we find the very concept of Hadith, there is little that can be done to stop its spread or existence as it has been proclaimed by God that the human and Jinn devils will be permitted to propagate their lies and fabrications.
?And as such, We have permitted the enemies of every prophet ? human and Jinn devils ? to inspire each other with fancy words in order to deceive. Had your Lord willed, they would not have done it. You shall disregard them and their fabrications. That is so the hearts of those who do not believe in the Hereafter will listen to it, and they will accept it, and they will take of it what they will.? (Qur?an 6:112-113)
To the verses you quoted, this is obviously talking about what you see on CNN, FOX and other wise
[005:041] Oh messenger! Do not let those who rush to reject (the truth) cause you any grief. Among them are those who say, ?We believe!? by their tongue, while their hearts do not believe. Among them are (many) Jews who listen solely for the sake of lying (later on). They spy for others who do not come to you. They (misquote you and) change the words out of context. (To their followers) they say, ?Accede and accept if you are told such and such, and be weary if you are told anything different.? You (Oh Muhammad, SAW) have no authority at all to help the one whom Allah wants to (tempt and) test through an ordeal. They are among those whose hearts Allah has chosen not to cleanse and purify. Disgrace (and defeat) is their lot in this world, and in the life-to-come they shall face the severest (most awful) punishment.
You Lot are a bunch of Munafiqs because of this verse
2:13] Sahih International
And when it is said to them, "Believe as the people have believed," they say, "Should we believe as the foolish have believed?" Unquestionably, it is they who are the foolish, but they know [it] not.
When we tell you to believe as the First of us believe you say "Are we to believe as the foolish have believe". Most believers are of Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamah and it has always been like that, that is a historical fact and to claim other wise is idiotic.
The hadith have had a lot of prophecies that have came true.
http://www.themodernreligion.com/misc/cults/anti_muslim_hadithrejectors.htmlAs well what is the context of this verse??
[17:1] Sahih International
Exalted is He who took His Servant by night from al-Masjid al-Haram to al-Masjid al-Aqsa, whose surroundings We have blessed, to show him of Our signs. Indeed, He is the Hearing, the Seeing.
What were the signs shown? When did Allah take his slave? What happened from Masjid al Haram to al Masjid Al Aqsa?
I've met you hadith rejectors and you are the rudest lot of people i've ever seen, do not like listening to proof, and just push away at the people.
If you say that alcohol is not haram than you are fulfilling the prophecy that says "There will be people among my Ummah who makes alcohol, silk, Music halal" (paraphrased version of the hadith"
Saheeh and the Gospels
Regarding comparison of Saheeh with Gospels (#2), let's listen to Dr. Hamidullah. "The compilation of the Gospels, their preservation and transmission from one generation to the other, has not taken place in the way which governed the books of Hadith... We do not know who wrote them, who translated them, and who transmitted them. How were they transferred from the original Aramaic to Greek? Did the scribes make arrangements for a faithful reproduction of the original? The four Gospels are mentioned, for the first time, three hundred years after Christ. Should we rely on such an unauthentic book in preference to that of Bukhari who prefaces every statement of two lines with three to nine references?"
