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Started by hafeez kazi, April 22, 2004, 06:22:45 AM

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THE SATANIC HADITH


Those who do not believe in Hadith and follow Quran alone are disbelievers.

To believe in Hadith is a part of faith and whosever does not believe in Hadith, is not following Sunnah and hence not obeying the prophet and finally not obeying Allah. Allah has repeatedly mentioned in the Quran "obey Allah and the prophet" and "follow the messenger" and this repeated verses has made the Muslims (who have neither read the Quran nor the Hadith with care) think, that all Muslims are commanded by Allah to obey and follow the Hadith, and if any, do not agree to their assumption and belief, then his faith is at a stake.

I have been researching Quran and Hadith (alleged traditions of the Prophet Muhammad) for a long time now and using my own common sense I have decided to discard all man made Hadith from my practice of Islam. Majority of the people will not agree with my decision but that is ok, it is mine and personal, I don't impose my views on other people. I came to this conclusion after discovering some very disgusting, vulgar, insulting, useless Hadith that defy logic were considered authentic by the scholars and the Muslim community at large, and when I compared them with what was in Quran it just didn't fit, and after historical research as well it dawned on me that these supposed "Traditions of the Prophet" were nothing more than fabricated lies and stories written by medieval helpers of the ruling regimes to prop up and legitimize corrupt and un-Islamic policies that were supporting these regimes. I am sure there are vast majority of the Hadith contradictory to the Quran and thus contradictory to Allah.  

Muslims have fallen victim to inventions against, the word of Allah, the Quran. These inventions have distorted the way that Allah sent down via all the prophets. It is very difficult to change the mindset of the Muslims who have accepted Hadith as the second Quran. One may visit any mosque or any other place of congregation; he will, for sure, find Hadith being preached to the audience. Traditional Muslims tirelessly defend the alleged importance of this body of literature, with most claiming that no person is a Muslim unless he or she believes in it. But the reality is that these passages quite obviously contradict the Quran, logic, and each other. One look at them is enough to dissuade the half-rational mind. It is not difficult to see that the unfortunate plight of the Islamic world today has to do with their blindly accepting and defending this medieval and barbaric body of literature. Those who follow the Quran are following the Prophet Muhammad; those who are following the alleged Hadith and Sunna are not following the Prophet but following those who wrote these books.

Or have they taken (other) aliha (gods) besides Him? Say: "Bring your proof:" This (the Qur'an) is the Reminder for those with me and the Reminder for those before me. But most of them know not the Truth, so they are averse.

And We shall take out from every nation a witness, and We shall say: "Bring your proof." Then they shall know that the truth is with Allah (Alone), and the lies (false gods) which they invented will disappear from them. 28:75

Following anybody but Allah's commandments in the Quran is idol-worship. Idol-worship is the only unforgivable sin, if maintained till death. Good intentions do not help, many idol-worshipers will face Allah on the Day of Judgment not realizing what they were doing, and their intentions will not help them.

One day shall We gather them all together: We shall say to those who ascribed partners (to Us): "Where are the partners whom ye (invented and) talked about?" There will then be (left) no Fitnah (excuses or statements or arguments) for them but to say: " Then will they have no contention save that they will say: By Allah, our Lord, we never were idolaters. "Look! How they lie against themselves! But the (lie) which they invented will disappear from them. 6:22/23/24

Hadith is today accepted as a short cut to Quran, a book wherein everything is mentioned for ready reference as sayings of the prophet and almost all subjects are covered within it.

Shall We then treat the People of Faith like the People of Sin? What is the matter with you? How judge ye? Or have ye a Book through which ye learn that ye shall have through it whatever ye choose? 68:34/35/36/37/38

There is no other book except Quran for guidance, belief, obeying, learning, laws and rituals and whoever turns to other books is an idol worshipper.

The mass Muslims who follow Hadith blindly have repeatedly failed to produce one verse from the Quran, which supports their assumption and belief that Allah has commanded to follow Hadith book. They are quoting verses out of context to substantiate their claim. They interpret "wisdom" as Sunnah and "follow prophet" as following Hadith and whenever their attention is drawn towards a Hadith, which is contradicting the verses of the Quran, they like an illiterate, defend Hadith rather than Quran.

Christians had one Paul to destroy Christianity, but Muslims have six nonsense sahih's to destroy Islam and to make matter worse two new nonsense "Tablighul Nisaab" and "Fazail Aamaal" mushroomed to entwine the threads of Islam. The scholars have forced the masses to accept, through their inferior reading of the Quran, that Quran is difficult to understand and Hadith is a guide to understand the Quran, which is believed to be the sayings of prophet.

Thus Allah makes clear His Verses to you, in order that you may understand. 2:242

Verily, We have sent it down as an Arabic Quran in order that you may understand. 12:2

Allah has sent this Quran, but to read and understand its message and act accordingly and the above verses negate the claims made by the false scholars that Quran is indeed difficult to understand. Had it been so, then the purpose of sending the Quran is to be deemed as lost, but how can a plan of Allah fail?

Fain would they extinguish Allah's light with their mouths but Allah will not allow but that His light should be perfected even though the unbelievers may detest (it). 9:32

And (then unbelievers) plotted and planned and Allah too planned and the best of planners is Allah. 3:54

So Allah is the best of planners and he executed his plan and was accomplished successfully, but there entered the Satan the rejected, the evil and the disgraced after 200 years of the demise of our beloved prophet, and took control of the situation slowly and gradually. Satan inspired (Bukhari and associates) men to write the actions and narrations of the prophet and inspired liars to narrate sayings in the name of prophet. Satan's plan was to make people forget Allah's Quran and to that extent he is successful and replace Quran with his own book to astray the people from the right path of Allah. Historically, those in the position of power and the clerics have found justification for their oppressive imposition over the masses through the books of the Hadith and Sunna. Indeed, these innovated fabrications have been major contributors to the downfall of the Islamic civilization. Almighty Allah, the Knower of all secrets and declarations, knew that the accursed Satan would try to deceive people by the mean of the fabricated Hadiths. Therefore, the Most Gracious warned the believers ahead of time that they should only accept One True Hadith, the Glorious Quran. Did Allah know such things would happen?

And so We have appointed for every Prophet enemies - Shayatin (devils) among mankind and jinns, inspiring one another with adorned speech as a delusion (or by way of deception). If your Lord had so willed, they would not have done it, so leave them alone with their fabrications. 6:112

To such (deceit) let the hearts of those incline who have no faith in the Hereafter: let them delight in it and let them earn from it what they may. 6: 113

Now some Muslims have started realizing that all Hadith are not true and there are many false Hadith narrated in the name of prophet, but still they hold that we should discard such Hadith or not accept such Hadith, which contradicts the verses of Quran. Is there saying acceptable to Allah, Who descended the Quran for our mercy, for our guidance, for our instruction, to lead us out of the depths of darkness into light, to save us from hell, it is this question they should ask themselves. Allah has not commanded us to believe and follow the Hadith but only Quran.

O you who believe! Believe in Allah, and His Messenger (Muhammad SAW), and the Book (the Quran) that He has sent down to His Messenger, and the Scripture, which He sent down to those before (him), and whosoever disbelieves in Allah, His Angels, His Books, His Messengers, and the Last Day, then indeed he has strayed far away. 4:136

Do you find in the above verse 'Hadith". Do you find Sunnah of the prophet? Anyone crossing the limits of Allah is an idol worshipper.

Faith is the most important part of DEN and we cannot install our faith on the crumbling foundations of Hadith. We have faith in the Quran because it is revealed by the All Powerful, All Knowing and Wise Allah, but what guarantee is there that all Hadith mentioned in the sahihs are the sayings of the prophet. On what basis do we trust that they are authentic sayings of the prophet? The Hadith is a hand written book by Bukhari and associates and contains no divine materials. It is forged to divert the believers from the right path

Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands and then say: "This is from Allah" to traffic with it for a miserable price! Woe to them for what their hands do write and for the gain they make thereby. 2:79

Many of the Muslims in general talk about the Hadiths collection with a respect that matches and sometimes exceeds that of the Quran. While the Quran does not leave any doubt as to where Allah wants us to look for the guidance and perfect happiness, those who do not believe Allah in His own words usually find in the Hadiths and Sunna a refuge that has been condemned by the Quran repeatedly. Allah already informed us in the Quran that His Book is the BEST HADITH 39:23,and that we should only seek His Hadiths (Quran) 7:185, and wonders why the people are not satisfied with His words, 45:6!!

Imam Al-Bukhari, is just one of several scholars who decided to collect the Hadiths and Sunna despite the clear prohibition by the Prophet Muhammad himself and all the Khalifas who followed him of collecting and writing anything but the Quran. Many of the Muslims today look at Bukhari with a respect he did not deserve or earn. His elevation to the level of a Saint by the Muslims and Scholars who came after him made of his books of Hadiths and Sunna a second Quran.

Being born 200 years after the prophet's death (peace be upon him), Bukhari went to perform a task that none of the native Arabs had dared to do...He collected the Hadiths under the guise of 'complementing' the Quran, when in reality his true mission was to undermine and destroy its message with those of his masters! Just like Paul (not Jesus) is the father of today's Christianity, so it is that Bukhari (and not the prophet) is the true head of what we call 'Islam' in its present form!

While modern Christianity is the product of Paul's corruption and hallucination, traditional Sunni Islam as practiced today, is the product of corruption of the true DEN of Islam by people like Bukhari. As soon as the Muslims deserted the Quran in favor of the Hadiths and Sunna books, their true DEN was corrupted beyond belief and their practice of DEN today is but a reflection of the DEN of the Scholars like Bukhari, Muslim Ibn Majah, Tirmidhi, Abu-Dawood...etc. and not a reflection of the Islam (Submission) presented to us by the Prophet Muhammad.

While those who defend Bukhari praise him for his methodology of collecting the Hadiths for his book known as "Sahih Al-Bukhari." They only reflect ignorance with what Bukhari actually collected in his book. Not only did Bukhari broke the rules that he claimed he used to ensure the authenticity of the Hadiths but his own personal feelings, political alliance and hatred to people like Ali Ibn Abu Talib affected his choice of what Hadiths to list in his book and what Hadiths to refuse. He cared less about the content of the Hadiths itself. He listed many Hadiths that contradict the Quran, contradict other Hadiths, contradict common sense, insult Allah, insult the Prophet Muhammad, insult the Prophet's wives and his family. The position that Bukhari took regarding Ali Ibn-Abu Talib Vs his position towards Mu'aawyiah is but a reflection of the political corruption of Bukhari and his bias in listing the Hadiths that put down Ali while making of his ardent enemy Mu'aawyiah, a pure and righteous man despite his known corruption and defiance of the simple Islamic laws. Bukhari narrated Many Hadiths in his book that the people call "Sahih" (Authentic) for people who were considered liars, corrupted and untrustworthy. Muslim Scholars who came after him were afraid to expose the truth and the shortcoming of Bukhari and other scholars of Hadiths and Sunna like him. The corruption of Islam by Hadiths and Sunna started right during the Prophet's life and soon after his death. The collections of the so-called Hadiths and Sunna were condemned by Allah, the Prophet, and the Sahaba (companions of the Prophet). This act reached its peak by the end of the second Hijra century when the famous six books (references) of Hadiths were written.

Allah Almighty predicted this corruption and told us in 6:112-113 why He permitted this corruption to happen and also told us ahead of time that the messenger will complain to Him on the day of Judgment of the Muslims taking the Quran as an OBSOLTE (replacing Quran the outdated with the new and latest version Hadith)

Then the Apostle will say: "O my Lord! Truly my people took this Quran as an OBSOLETE. 25:30

It is time for Muslims to WAKE-UP and realize that their DEN has been hijacked for the last 1,200 years by the enemies of the prophet, and that tyrannical and brutal regimes are a model image of what Bukhari and his colleagues had intended for Islam...They could not destroy the Quran, but they found another way to distort Allah's great message to mankind.

The basis of the Islamic social order is the conviction that the code of life we received through prophet Muhammad (pbuh) and which was meant to channelise the human activities in the right direction, is from Allah and Allah alone. A slight deviation from this belief razes the whole structure of the Islamic social order to ground. We Muslims, also believe that revelation came to Moses and Jesus Christ, the messengers of Allah, which basically brought the same message as is given in the Quran; On the other hand, we believe that the Quran remains absolutely unaltered. From beginning to end, it is exactly the same as it was revealed to the prophet. If any-body has the slightest doubt about it, it no more remains the basis of DEN (the Islamic social order) with him. Thus the conspiracy to create doubts about the Quranic words and their sequence was most pernicious. Non-Arab nations, who in spite of their overwhelming material superiority could not stand against the Arabian Muslims in the battlefield, decided to change their strategy. They apparently came into the fold of Islam but in fact they used their conversion as a means to shake Muslim conviction in the Quranic truth. Thus they succeeded in introducing a belief that DEN (Islamic social order) is contained not only inside the Quran but also outside it. So it became easy to change the entire concept of the basic teachings of the Quran. They took advantage of the Muslim's love and devotion to their Rasool and introduced the idea that the Ahadis attributed to him are at par with the Quran. Having done that, they based the information regarding the sequence and the mode of assemblage of the Quranic verses on Ahadis. This paved the way to forge statements about the Quranic words and their sequence, although Allah took upon Himself the safety of the Quran.

Verily We: It is We Who have sent down the Dhikr (i.e. the Quran) and surely, We will guard it (from corruption). 15:9

The message that Allah has been sending down has been the same all throughout history, same in every way

SHARAcA LA- -KUM MIN AD- DEN
Legitimated for you OF / FROM THE SYSTEM
MAA WAS.S.AA BI- -HI NOH.(AN)  
Whatever was ordered with it to Noah
WA- 'ALLADHE AWH.AYNAA 'ILAY -KA
And that which We inspired to you
WA- MAA WAS.S.AYNAA BI- -HI 'IBRAAHEM WA- MOSAA WA- cESAA  
We ordered with it to Ibrahim and Moosa and Essa
'AN AQEMO AD- DEN  
To setup the SYSTEM
WA- LAA TATAFARRAQO FE -HI  
And not to make racial / ethnic segregation in it (SYSTEM)

Even though the Quran says in well over 15 places, that it is explained in detail, Tafseel  

Say: "Shall I seek for judge other than Allah? when He it is Who hath sent unto you the Book explained in detail." They know full well to whom We have given the Book that it hath been sent down from thy Lord in truth.  Never be then of those who doubt. 6:114

And contains a full explanation of whatever is needed by a believer

One day We shall raise from all peoples a witness against them from amongst themselves: and We shall bring thee as a witness against these (thy people): and We have sent down to thee the Book explaining all things a guide a Mercy and glad tidings to Muslims. 16:89

And should be enough, Kaafi, for them

Is it not enough for them that We have sent down to you the Book (the Qur'an) which is recited to them? Verily, herein is mercy and a reminder (or an admonition) for a people who believe.29:51

And contains the complete law (Shariah) of Allah

THUMMA JAcALNAA -KA cALAA SHAREcAH MIN AL- 'AMR FA- ITTABIc -HAA WA- LAA TATTABIc AHWAA' 'ALLADHENA LAA YAcLAMON 45:18

Thereafter We provided to you the charter of the commands: so follow them and follow not the desires of those who know not. 45:18

As against man-made law or Shariah

'AM LA- -HUM SHURAKAA' SHARAcO LA- -HUM MIN AD- DEN MAA LAM YA'DHAN BI- -HI 'ALLAAH WA- LAW-LAA KALIMAH AL- FAS.L LA- QUD.IYA BAYNA -HUM WA- 'INNA AZ.- Z.AALIMEN LA- -HUM cADHAAB 'ALEM 42:21

Or the partners to them legitimated for them from the system that which Allah has not permitted for it. And had it not been for a decisive Word (gone forth already), the matter would have been judged between them. And verily, for the Zalimun (polytheists and wrong-doers), there is a painful torment. 42:21

"Muslims" insist that the Quran needs supplements to be understood, and lacks details. This amount to disbelieving what Allah himself says in unequivocal terms in the Quran.

The Quran states explicitly that the messenger's duty was only to convey (Balagh) the message contained in the Quran

"And if you deny, then nations before you have denied (their Messengers). And the duty of the Messenger is only to convey (the Message) plainly." 29:

And that the Quran was the only Wahi (revelation) given to the prophet to be conveyed to people by testimony of Allah Himself

Say: "What thing is most weighty in evidence?" Say: "Allah is Witness between me and you: this Qur'an hath been revealed to me by inspiration that I may warn you and all whom it reaches.  Can ye possibly bear witness that besides Allah there is another Allah?" Say: "Nay! I cannot bear witness!" Say: "But in truth He is the One Allah and I truly am innocent of (your blasphemy of) joining others with Him. 6:19

Therefore to follow the words of Allah in the Quran would be to follow the messenger. Thus following Allah is the same as following the messenger, who only conveyed the Quran

He who obeys the Messenger (Muhammad SAW) has indeed obeyed Allah, but he who turns away, then we have not sent you (O Muhammad SAW) as a watcher over them. 4:80

The inventions against the true words of Allah, revealed to the messengers, which is called their true Speech

That this is verily the word of an honored messenger. 69:40

Are the so-called "Hadith" (stories about the sayings and doings of the prophets) as narrated by the writers of the Old Testament, the Gospels of Jesus (i.e. the "Hadith" about Jesus), and the various Hadith about the prophet Muhammad contained in the many "extra-Quranic" books believed in by the Sunni and Shia schools of thought. People have attributed these things throughout history to the messengers, whereas the messengers could never have said them given the history of the documents and the Criterion (Furqaan) of the Quran 2:185

"Do they not consider the Quran with care, if it had been from anyone other than Allah, it would contain many discrepancies 4:82

Any document that claims to be from Allah, but in actuality is not would contain some form of error according to the Quran. What we see on analysis is that the Hadith attributed to the prophet and the Gospels attributed to Jesus fail this test of authenticity. What we also see is the subjectivity of the various Muslims groups. They reject the Gospels of Jesus based on the same test as being corrupt, whereas similar defects found in the books of Hadith are overlooked by them and they accept them as being authentic sayings of Muhammad. Let us have a look at the books of Hadith:

Hadith are the various traditions contained in specific books, believed in by the majority of Muslims to be the sayings of the prophet Muhammad. These in the major part are extra-Quranic, i.e. from outside the Quran. They either contradict or add to the Quran. Muslims sometimes present them as an explanation of the Quran or as an integral part of Islamic law, even though the Quran does not confirm them.

A minority among the Muslims does not accept the various books of Hadith as being an accurate representation of what the prophet Muhammad said. They take the Quran as Criterion (Furqaan in Arabic), according to the Quran's own claim

The month of Ramadan in which was revealed the Qur'an, a guidance for mankind and clear proofs for the guidance and the criterion (between right and wrong)?2:185  

Accepting only those Hadith [tradition or narration attributed to the prophet], which the Quran confirms and attests in totality. I represent that view in my research. Opposition to the Hadith, and the whole body of extra-Quranic literature on Islam as doctrine has existed from the earliest days of Islam. This is well documented by Shafi (died 204AH/ 819AD).

The Quran historically predates any written Hadith and there is no mention of Hadith or the Sunna of the Prophet in what we possess as writings before the third century after the prophet. Quran and rationality based on its principles formed the basis of DEN for first century Muslims. Thus contrary to being an innovation, following the Quran alone is historically the original Islam and Hadith and other extra-Quranic literature is an innovation, introduced in its written form in the 3rd century after the prophet.

Most Muslims who have taken on themselves the responsibility of teaching Islam to others have themselves abandoned the Quran by upholding Hadith. They say without hesitation: "The majority of Shariah (Law) in Islam is contained outside the Quran in books of Hadith and fiqh." Such a saying is a direct attack on the validity of the Quran, which claims to contain the complete Islamic law from Allah. We need to ask ourselves, what kind of submission (Islam) is this when you are rejecting Allah's words to follow your traditions.

And whosoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed, such are the Kafirun .5:44

And whosoever does not judge by that which Allah has revealed, such are the Zalimun 5:45

And whosoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed (then) such are the Fasiqun 5:47

Those Muslims, who claim to believe in the Hadith as being totally true, need to be objective and not subjective. They should, as concern for truth demands not changed standards while evaluating phenomena. If they reject the Gospels as being true based on reasons that are valid, i.e. contradictions, history etc (and they almost all do), then they should also reject the Hadith on the same criteria. Hadith have the same problems of authenticity as the gospels do. Hadith do not represent the words of the prophet just like the gospels don't represent the words of Jesus in total.

Hadith believing Muslims make big claims on the so-called scientific compilation of Hadith. Let it be clear however, that no matter how scientific you are in your compilation of what is "false" to start with, the compilation cannot make it true. Even the criteria that is presented are un-objective, i.e. the truthfulness of a particular narrator with a story of how truthful he was. To repeat, falsehood is not converted to truth by its scientific compilation.
 
There are many things that do not appear in the Quran and it has become the subject of discussion and argument. Ignorant people and learned scholars and Imams and Mullas are defending the Hadith whereas they should have held the Quran up, in defence. Many things have been banned in the Hadith in the name of prophet e.g. gold and silk for men and not found in Quran, when confronted with the Hadithers they claim Hadith to be true on the basis that we are commanded by Allah to follow and obey the prophet and whatever he forbids, abstain from it and if in the Hadith it is banned then we have to accept it.

Earlier I mentioned that Hadith have become a second Quran for Muslims, and here is a proof for that, whatever not found in Quran but found in Hadith is accepted as a saying of the prophet or an indirect saying of Allah and whoever disobeys it, disobeys Allah.
I don't understand the logic behind this banning the use of gold and silk and more important is that prophet was assigned a duty by Allah to convey His message (Quran) to the mankind and nothing more.

What Allah has bestowed on His Apostle (and taken away) from the people of the townships belongs to Allah to His Apostle and to kindred and orphans the needy and the wayfarer; in order that it may not (Merely) make a circuit between the wealth among you.  So take what the Apostle assigns to you and deny yourselves that which he withholds from you. And fear Allah; for Allah is strict in Punishment. 59:7

The Hadithers are using this verse out of context to support their claim that whatever prophet forbids we Muslims should abstain from it. The verse 59:7 is speaking of the property being abandoned by the Jews of the tribes of Banu Nadhir without war. Allah wanted to distribute this booty to everyone to avoid being used as a fortune by the rich and so He commanded the prophet for distribution among the poor, orphans wayfarer and commanded the believers to accept whatever he gives them and deny whatever he withholds from them.

And I have come confirming that which was before me of the Taurat (Torah), and to make lawful to you part of what was forbidden to you, and I have come to you with a proof from your Lord. So fear Allah and obey me.3: 50

Say thou: I am not an (BID AN) innovator among the apostles, nor I know whatsoever shall be done with me or with you; I only follow that which is revealed Unto me, and am but a warner manifest. 46:9

The prophet came to make lawful, which was forbidden in the Torah by the command of Allah, with a proof and not the other way to ban something without the approval of Allah. The word (BID AN) innovator will be an eye opener for Hadithers because it EXPOSES their hollowness in understanding and reading the Quran. Had they read this verse they would have paused before accepting any Hadith blindly.

But when Our Clear Signs are rehearsed unto them those who rest not their hope on their meeting with Us say: "Bring us a Reading other than this or change this." Say: "It is not for me of my own accord to change it: I follow naught but what is revealed unto me: if I were to disobey my Lord I should myself fear the Penalty of a Great Day (to come)."10:15

The prophet would neither command anything of his own except what is revealed to him, nor he is an innovator, then from which source the following Hadith is quoted.

Sahih Bukhari: 2:331 Al Bara Bin Azib
Allah's Apostle ordered us to do seven things and forbade us to do other seven. He ordered us:
To follow the funeral procession, to visit the sick, to accept invitations, to help the oppressed, to fulfill the oaths, to return the greeting and to reply to the sneezer (saying, "May Allah be merciful on you," provided the sneezer says, "All the praises are for Allah,"). He forbade us to use silver utensils and dishes and to wear golden rings, silk (clothes), Dibaj (pure silk cloth), Qissi and Istabraq (two kinds of silk cloths).

Say: "See ye what things Allah hath sent down to you for sustenance? Yet ye hold forbidden some things thereof and (some things) lawful." Say: "Hath Allah indeed permitted you or do ye invent (things) to attribute to Allah?"10:59

But say not for any false thing that your tongues may put forth "This is lawful and this is forbidden" so as to ascribe false things to Allah.  For those who ascribe false things to Allah will never prosper.16: 116

O Prophet! Why holdest thou to be forbidden that which Allah has made lawful to thee? Thou seekest to please thy consorts.  But Allah is Oft- Forgiving Most Merciful.66: 1

I need not write on the above verses, as it are self-explanatory but a few words:

hafeez kazi

CONTINUED

Prophet is reprimanded for making the lawful thing of Allah unlawful for himself to please his consorts, then how could he without the authority of Allah forbid gold and silk for men? Whatever forbidden in the Quran is forbidden and whatever is not forbidden or mentioned is lawful. If anything is not mentioned in the Quran as forbidden and mentioned in the Hadith then it means that Allah has forgotten to forbid. Do you agree with this?

He replied: "The knowledge of that is with my Lord duly recorded: my Lord never errs nor forgets 20:52

Allah has not forgotten to forbid gold and silk and prophet himself cannot disobey Allah and forbid on his own because he only follows what is revealed to him by inspiration, then who is the one who has said in the name of prophet that gold and silk is forbidden for men. He is Satan's friend who has strayed millions of Muslims from the path of Allah by his ambiguous narration and unfortunately Muslims have accepted this straying false Hadith blindly to such an extent that any who speaks against such Hadith, is called faithless or trying to create a new sect. Why Muslims reject the verses of Allah and believe in the false narration of Satan's friend?

Finally I am coming to the most important verse of the Quran and I am sure that after reading this particular verse they will rethink on the Hadith and their acceptance. Had the Muslims pondered over the Quran then they would have been on the right path.

Have they not pondered over the Word (of Allah, i.e. what is sent down to the Prophet SAW), or has there come to them what had not come to their fathers of old? 23:68

Is it this (HADITH) discourse that ye hold lightly? 56:81

READ THESE TWO VERSES WITH FULL ATTENTION:
Of camels a pair and of oxen a pair; say hath He forbidden the two males or the two females or the (the young) which the wombs of the two females enclose?  Were ye present when Allah ordered you such a thing? But who doth more wrong than one who invents a lie against Allah to lead astray men without knowledge? For Allah guideth not people who do wrong. 6:144

Say: "I find not in the Message received by me by inspiration any (meat) forbidden to be eaten by one who wishes to eat it unless it be dead meat or blood poured forth or the flesh of swine for it is an abomination or what is impious (meat) on which a name has been invoked other than Allah's." But (even so) if a person is forced by necessity without wilful disobedience nor transgressing due limits thy Lord is Oft-Forgiving Most Merciful. 6:155

Prophet did not find in the message (Quran) any such commands forbidding food as in verse 6:144. It is a confirmation of the truth that anything not mentioned in the Quran is fake, false, and fabricated and should not be accepted. Anything that is forbidden has to be in the Quran, is the message of this verse. I think this verse is enough to awaken the dead faith of Hadithers and letting them know the truth of Hadith.

Another defense used by the pro Hadithers to follow the Hadith blindly is the sunnah of the prophet, without knowing the meaning of sunnah. Had they opened their eyes and read the Quran they would have found that the Sunnah is only of Allah and not prophet and there is not a single verse in the Quran saying Muslims should follow the Sunnah of prophet and what is to be followed is this:

Ye have indeed in the Apostle of Allah a beautiful pattern of (conduct) for anyone whose hope is in Allah and the Final Day and who engages much in the praise of Allah. 33:21

Our Prophet is a living legend, a role model for every human being and a treasure of beautiful conduct, modesty, and honesty and in truth every Muslims should follow in the footsteps of prophet rather than following the man written HADITH.

Faithful-Jinn

I agree that not every single "authentic" hadith is well authentic.

But there's a chance that some of the hadith are true which puts us in a dilemma
"O Allah! If I worship You for fear of Hell, burn me in Hell, and if I worship You in hope of Paradise, exclude me from Paradise. But if I worship You for Your Own sake, grudge me not Your everlasting Beauty."

rahenijaat1

Salam and Peace!

This is a matter of Authorization from Allah. I hope we know what the terminology "Authorization from Allah" means.
Read and see what does Allah mean by "Authorization from Allah":
-----"They are not but (mere) names which you have named, you and your forefathers, Allah has sent down no Authority for that. They follow not except a guess and that which (they) themselves desire. Although, surely there has come to them Guidance from their Lord."  (Al-Najam-23)
Allah authorized a human being as His Last Prophet. So, we have Faith in it that Muhammad (SAW) is the last Prophet of Allah.
Allah certified the companions of the last Prophet as rightly guided and blessed. So, we have Faith in it.
First of all, we have Iman in Allah, that is why we have Iman in everything that Allah Authorized.
For example, Allah issued an Authorized Order for the Angels to bow before Adam. Because the angels had Faith in Allah, that is why they immediately bowed before Adam. But Iblees refused to accept the Authorized Order of Allah and didn't bow, and was cursed forever.-----So the thing that matters, is what Allah authorized. Bowing is only to Allah, but the angels bowed before Adam because Allah authorized this act.
So, Authorization from Allah. Where is the Authorization from Allah for anything that we claim. And if there is no Authorization from Allah, then it is a guesswork.
Allah didn't Authorize Umar bin Khattaab as His Prophet. So, the ummah will never accept Umar bin Khattaab as a Prophet.

-----Imam Bukhari, Imam Muslim, etc. were not Authorized and Certified by Allah to compile books of the Messenger's sayings.-----Then how can their books of ahadith for which Allah never Revealed any Authorization, be Authorized, Trustworthy and a Source of Deen?
-----"They are not but (mere) names which you have named, you and your forefathers, Allah has sent down no Authority for that. They follow not except a guess and that which (they) themselves desire. Although, surely there has come to them Guidance from their Lord."  (Al-Najam-23)
Did Allah Authorize in His Exalted Quran, the words "Sihah Sittah", "Sahih Al-Bukhari", "Sahih Al-Muslim", "Ahlul Sunnah Wal Jamah", "Salafee", etc, etc???-----No, not at all.---Then who authorized Imam Bukhari to do which the Messenger himself never did, and which his rightly guided Companions never dared to do.
Yes, although there has come to us The Guidance (Authorized Al-Quran only) from our Lord, but still, we don't verify from The Quran what our millions of big-ones of the ummah issue as Deen.
If someone clearly refuses to accept Imam Bukhari and his book as "Authorized Source of Deen", what would you say?---On what ground would you issue a fatawah against him?---What Authority from Allah do you have to call him a "kafir" or "out of Islam"?---"They follow not except a guess and that which (they) themselves desire"---If we don't have any Authorization from Allah's Quran, then it is merely a guesswork, and nothing but a guesswork, no matter how many millions and millions of big scholars of past and present support it.
Man, in spite of all his hallmark achievements, is nothing but an absolute zero. Finally, into the dust to become dust.
All those millions and millions of scholars, past and present, died and will die, and will become earth into the earth, and they will be raised again and questioned about what they said and did.
Is it wise,---Is it wise,---again, Is it wise to obey those who will be questioned---Or---Is it wise to obey The One, Who will question???
Is it wise to obey those who are given---Or---Is it wise to obey The One, Who gives???
Is it wise to obey those who are being watched---Or---Is it wise to obey The One, Who is watching and writing???
In all ages, uncertified people have always passed on "uncertified things" as Deen. Those unathorized people have always put forward unauthorized sayings as the source of Deen. And people who are fearless of Allah's Strong Hold, have always put their faith in those uncertified things as a source of Deen.
Just imagine, Imam Bukhari never saw, met and talked to the Messenger, and as such he couldn't. Yet he claimed to compile the sayings of the Messenger which he never heard with his own ears from the Messenger. And that Unauthorized compilation is claimed and accepted by millions of scholars and the ummah as the explanation of The Authorized Quran.
Unauthorized explanations of An Authorized Quran!!!
Unauthorized books of Unauthorized Imams.-----Allah's Quran does not Certifies and Authorizes Imam Bukhari, Imam Muslim and such people.
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You say man-made books of ahadith are not Unauthorized.----Okay! If they are not unauthorized, then who Authorized them?-----Where in Al-Quran it says that, alongwith Al-Quran, the ummah have to follow the extra-Quranic sayings of the Messenger?!!
((1))---You say in Al-Quran, Allah has ordered us to obey the Messenger, and you say that following Al-Bukhari and Sihah Sittah are the obedience to the Messenger.-----Did Allah Authorize Sahih Al-Bukhari as the Obedience to the Messenger?---No!---Then what is the Clear Authority in favour of this claim? If there is no Divine Authority from Allah, then this is nothing but mere conjecture-----We should fear Allah!
((2))---You say man-made books of ahadith are Al-Hikmah. Who said this?---Did Allah say this?---No!---Then this is nothing but mere conjecture.-----We should fear Allah!
((3))---It is said that the extra-Quranic sayings of the Messenger are "Hidden Wahee".-----Did Allah Authorize that extra-Quranic sayings of the Messenger are "Hidden Wahee"???

Now read and contemplate:
((1))-----Allah, in His Safe, Holy and Exalted Quran has ordered us to obey the Messenger, and not the Prophet. Where ever Allah ordered us to obey the Messenger in The Quran, Allah used the word "Messenger", and not "Prophet". A Messenger is always with The Message. It clearly means that we have to obey the Messenger by obeying The Message.
Allah has never ordered us to follow the extra-Quranic sayings of the Messenger.
-----"Follow (O mankind) that which has been sent down to you from your Lord, and do not follow besides Him any awliyah (their books). Little it is you remember."   (Al-Aaraaf-3)-----
It is very much clear form the above verse---and do not follow besides Him any awliyah ---means follow Allah, and following Allah means follow what Allah has sent down, that is Al-Quraan only.-----And following any awliyah means following their written or compiled books. So, it is forbidden because it is shirk.

So, Allah ordered to obey the Messenger. And also Allah ordered to follow "The Message".-----So, obeying the Messenger, and following The Message, are the same thing.-----Obey the Messenger by following The Message that he brought.
Doesn't this directly go into the mind (intellect) and then into the heart?-----Peep into your heart, and you will find The Truth there.

((2))---Allah is Hakeem. His Book is Al-Hikmah.
Allah is The Most Wise. His Book is The Wisdom.
The Messenger himself took The Wisdom from Allah's Quran, and taught to others.

((3))---Nowhere in The Quran, Allah said the extra-Quranic sayings of the Messenger is "Hidden Wahee".
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The Message is more important than the Messenger. That is why the Messenger passed away, but The Message remains with the ummah. But the ummah have forgotten The Message, and is after the Messenger's sayings, and the Messenger is not with them.-----Isn't it so?---Say-----"Yes it so!"
The Messenger was given the designation of "The Messenger". So he was and is, the Messenger, in his life and also after his death.-----But if the Messenger had been given the designation of "The Explainer of Al-Quran", then Allah would have kept him alive until Al-Qiyamah to explain The Quran for the ummah.---But we know that the Messenger is no more with the ummah after his death. Now who will explain Al-Quran for them?---In fact, Allah's Quran is for the mankind, and It is Self-explanatory. Because there is no need of an explainer of a Self-explanatory Quran, that is why Allah called the Messenger back, and let His Exalted and easy-to-understand Quran with the ummah.
Indeed, until the Messenger was alive, no one was better than him to explain The Message. He used to explain Al-Quran from within Al-Quran. Now the Messenger is no more with us.-----Okay! You read The Quran, and you will understand everything. There is no need of Sahih Al-Bukhari, any tafseer or teacher.
The Messenger is the Messenger for his ummah and the mankind until Al-Qiyamah. But he was an explainer of Al-Quran for the Sahaba.-----After the Messenger's death, the Sahaba themselves contemplated in Al-Quran and solved their problems and ran their matters.
And if the Messenger is the Explainer of Al-Quran for the ummah until Al-Qiyamah, then where is the Messenger? He is not  with the ummah, because he has died. And the books which Imam Bukhari and Imam Muslim compiled using the name of the Messenger, can never be the replacement of the Messenger, because the Messenger himself never narrated those ahadith to Imam Bukhari. Even Imam Bukhari heard the ahadith form someone who himself never heard the Messenger narrating his ahadith.
Allah didn't send down any Verse to Authorize Imam Bukhari's work as "The Second Source of Deen".-----And the Messenger never put his "Signature of Attestation" or never put his "Seal of Authorization" on Imam Bukhari's book.-------Unauthorized books of Unauthorized Imams.
Now, call your intellect and think for a moment, the Sahaba took Guidance from Al-Quran in their own specific environment, surroundings and the things they used. We will never find aero planes, computers, machines, space technology, etc. in their times. Now we are in a different environment with different things to use, so we will take Guidance from Allah's Quran in accordance with our needs.
Indeed, the matter of "Faith in Allah", and "Behaviourism" is the same for all times, and these matters are discussed to the last detail in Allah's Quran. Rest of the things are related to the environments in which people of different times live.-----If we try to look and implement those specific applications of Quran that was applied at the time of Sahaba, we will be perplexed. We have to implement Al-Quran in our own surroundings and environments.
Allah will not question us about the old days, horses, donkeys, swords, etc. Allah will question us about the applications of Al-Quran in our times, environment, things, computers, space technology, modern equipments and their usage.
The Messenger and his rightly guided Sahaba set an example of taking Guidance from Allah's Quran in their times and environment, and the specific things they used.
Now it is up to us to set an example of taking Guidance from Allah's Quran according to our own time, environment, and the specific things that we use.
Remember, the Specific environment and Specific things that people use, in their times, create specific problems for them. And their problems may not be the problems for next generations.-----Sahaba rode horses, camels, donkeys, but we don't.----We travel on motor bikes, trains, and aero planes, but Sahaba didn't.
Now, since, Allah's Quran is A Guidance for all times, places and environments, so all the generations will take Guidance from Allah's Quran to solve their problems and settle their matters that exist in their environments.
Did you see, time, environment and things, change-----but Allah's Guidance (Al-Quran) remains unchanged. This is The Proof that Allah's Quran is Supreme over all times and all environments.
The people of the ummah who were without Sahih Al-Bukhari, they were The Super Power of their time (Sahaba only). Weren't they?---Yes, they were.-----And today the ummah is with Sahih Al-Bukhari, and they are the slaves of the non-muslims. Beggars at their doors.----Haram sects. Fighting with each other. Humiliation, Downfall, Terrorism, Mysticism, Corrupt Rulers and Misguided Religious Scholars---Why???-----Because the ummah today have no love for "The Only Certified and Authorized Source of Deen, Al-Quran."
The ummah, 200 years after the death of the Messenger, have found for themselves another quran.
Read and contemplate:
-----"And when Our Verses are recited to them as clear Evidence, those who hope not for their meeting with Us, say: ?Bring a quran other than this (Quran), or make changes in this (Quran).? Say (O Messenger): ?It is not for me to change It on my own accord. I follow not but that which is revealed unto me. Indeed, I fear, if I were to disobey my Lord, the punishment of a Great Day.? (Younus:15)
So, the liars couldn't stand the Straight, Clear and Easy-to-understand Instructions of Allah's Quran. They demanded---?Bring a quran other than this (Quran), or make changes in this (Quran)."---The Messenger refused and said---?It is not for me to change It (Allah's Quran) on my own accord. I follow not but that which is revealed unto me. Indeed, I fear, if I were to disobey my Lord, the punishment of a Great Day.?---
And look, ---what the Messenger never did, ---and what the rightly guided Sahaba never did,-----it is the Persian Imam Bukhari and Persian Imam Muslim who did it. And the ummah and their scholars fall on it like flies fall on sweets.

And to make it more impressive, they claimed that Sahih Al-Bukhari and Sahih Al-Muslim are from Allah (Hidden Revelation).
-----"Then woe be to those who write the Scripture (man-made books of shariah, ahadith) with their own hands, then they say, ?This is from Allah, (they say man-made books of ahadith are also Wahee, means from Allah)? that they may sell it for a small price. Woe be to them for that which their hands have written, and woe be to them for that which they earn."  (Al-Buqarah-79)
Big Imaams, allaamas, scholars and leaders fabricated a big Lie, and declared from their own desire, that unauthorized man-made books of ahadith Bukhari, Muslim and others are The Second Source of Islaam. What they said and still say, is not authorized by a Divine Authority from Allah. And anything which is not approved by Allah, is nothing but Lie, Fabrication and Sorcery (Jadoo, Magic).
-----"Those who do not believe in Allah's Verses, only they invent falsehood. And it is they, who are the liars."  (Al-Nahl-105)
-----"Woe unto each sinful liar." (Al-Jasia-7)
-----"The Quraan is not a fabricated Hadith but a confirmation of what has existed before it, and a detailed explanation of everything, and A Guidance, and A Mercy for the people who believe."   (Yousuf-111)
Allah is confirming, that His Quraan is not a fabricated hadith, whereas, Allah didn't confirm Imaam Bukhari, Imaam Muslim or other man-made books of ahadith that they are not fabricated. And when Allah is saying that His Quraan is not fabricated, then only Allah's Quraan is not fabricated. Else are, for sure, fabricated.
There are many examples in The Quraan, where Allah gave His Judgement about one thing, but the same Judgement was not given about any other thing. Then the thing which has Allah's Judgement in its favour is authorized, else are unauthorized. For Example
-----"And what We have revealed to you (O Muhammad) of the Book, it is The Truth."  (Faatir-31) 
So, here in this verse Allah says that His revealed Book, The Quraan is The Truth. Allah certified only His revealed Quraan as The Truth. So, The Quraan is The Only Book of Truth. No other book (Imaam Bukhari, Imaam Muslim, etc) is the book of Truth, because they have no Divine Certificate  from Allah as The Book of Truth.
Same way only Allah's Quraan is not a fabricated book, other than Al-Quraan, Imaam Bukhari, Imaam Muslim, Musnavi-e-Roomi, etc, are all, for sure, fabricated. It's a serious matter. It is a matter of Tauheed and shirk. It is a matter of Paradise or Hell. And because of the seriousness of this matter, Allah confirmed for His humble slaves that His Quraan is not a fabricated book, they must believe in It. Other than The Quraan, Allah didn't confirm any other book as "not fabricated." Then how can Allah's momin say that Sahih Al-Bukhari, Sahih Al-Muslim are not fabricated, because Allah didn't say this.

Couldn't the Messenger write his own explanations of Quran with his own hand?---Yes, he could.-------But the Messenger never wrote his own explanations of Al-Quran with his own hand, and even never ordered his righteous and rightly guided Sahaba to pen down his extra-Quranic sayings.

What is Sahih Al-Bukhari, Sahih Al-Muslim and Sihah Sitta?--The big-ones of the Ummah say these are the Hadith of the Messenger.---Don't they know that in The Sight of Allah these are not at all the Hadith of the Messenger?---If only the ummah had read Allah's Quran, they would have known that in The Sight of Allah, Al-Quran is the Hadith of the Messenger.
---"This (Quran) is the Hadith (Qol) of a Noble Messenger." (Al-Haqqaa-40)---
Allah has declared that The Hadith of His Exalted Messenger is Al-Quraan.--That's it.--Allah has put an end to all disputes with His Verse.---But still, if someone disputes and declares that Bukhari and Muslim are the hadith of the Messenger, because the "misled big-ones" of the ummah declare so, then he is disputing with Allah's Clear and Easy-to-understand Verse. He is an enemy of Allah and His Messenger.
---"This (Quran) is the Hadith (Qol) of a Noble Messenger." (Al-Haqqaa-40)---
Yes, only Al-Quran alone, and not at all Sahih Al-Bukhari and Sahih Al-Muslim.--So sad, the whole ummah is fighting against Allah and His Messenger, because they don't have Imaan in what Allah declares in His Quran---"This (Quran) is the Hadith (Qol) of a Noble Messenger." (Al-Haqqaa-40)---and the Messenger said in, what is his Hadith------"This (Quran) is the Hadith (Qol) of a Noble Messenger." (Al-Haqqaa-40)---

So, when Allah and His Exalted Messenger are declaring that Al-Quran is the Hadith of the Messenger, then why the "misled big-ones" of the ummah demand to accept Sahih Al-Bukhari and Sahih Al-Muslim as the hadith of the Messenger??? -----Do they want others to do open Kufr of Allah and His Messenger?-----Do the big-ones want others to stand against Allah and His Messenger? If they have taken their big-ones (Imam Bukhari, Imam Muslim) as their rubbs, why they invite others to commit the same Shirk?---Do they not fear Allah?--Oh, no!---Do they not use their intellect?--No, not at all!

Contemplate, when Allah has already declared that---"This (Quran) is the Hadith (Qol) of a Noble Messenger." (Al-Haqqaa-40)---then how can Allah's momin go against Allah's Clear Declaration by having Imaan that Bukhari and Muslim are the hadith of the Messenger? How can he become a Kafir of Allah, by accepting Sahih Al-Bukhari and Sahih Al-Muslim the hadith of the Messenger??? When Allah never mentioned the name of Sahih Al-Bukhari and Sahih Al-Muslim in His Safe, Holy and Supreme Quran, then how can a truthful slave of Allah, without any proof, accept them as anything of any importance?

Why do some people always call people to follow the Unauthorized books of ahadith?
The Corrupt, Sectarian and Criminal "Ulama Karam" are responsible for the Downfall and Humiliation of this Ummah at the hands of the kuffaar. These criminal Ulama Karam have made the Ummah their slaves, and have divided them into Haram and Mushrik SECTS!
These Criminal "Ulama Karam" knowingly stop people from Allah.
Indeed the biggest criminals are the people themselves. They delibrately run away from Allah and His Exalted Quran.

rahenijaat1



Denier of the names of Sahaba, is out of Islam???


Salam and Peace, everyone!

A non-muslim reads Al-Quran. And he accepts Islam.

He says that he has (Iman in Allah,---the last Prophet and all the previous Prophets and Messengers,---Al-Quran and all the previous Scriptures,---Angels,---and The Judgement Day).

He further says that he has Iman in everything that Allah has mentioned in His Exalted Quran.
He says that Allah mentioned that the Prophet had companions (Al-Baqarah-285), so he has Iman that there are companions of the Prophet.

But, since, Allah didn't mention, in His Exalted Book of Islam, the names, which are said to be the names of the companions---Abu Bakar, Umar, Usman, Ali, Fatima, Hasan, Hussain, Abu Huraira, Abdullah ibn Umar, Abdullah ibn Abbaas---so the new-muslim says he will not accept these names as the names of the companions of the Prophet.
These names are in the books of history. And Allah didn't command me to have Iman in the books of history.

The new-muslim clarifies that he is not saying the Prophet did not have companions.
The Prophet had companions,---but their names are not mentioned in Al-Quran, so he will not accept these names as the names of the companions.

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Respected brothers/sisters!

Please answer any one of the following questions:

1)---Do you think that this new-muslim, is still a muslim?
Or---

2)---Do you think that the new-muslim, by not accepting these names as the names of the companions of the Prophet,-----is out of Islam?

If your answer is that he is out of Islam,---then in that case, your answer must be supported by a Verse from Allah's Quran.
Because when a person fulfills the basic requirements of Iman, (Iman in Allah,---the last Prophet and all the previous Prophets and Messengers,---Al-Quran and all the previous Scriptures,---Angels,---and The Judgement Day),---then Allah declares him a momin.

And if by not accepting the names of Sahaba (names are not mentioned in Al-Quran, it is in the history), he is out of Islam,-----then It is only Allah alone Who can declare him out of Islam.

No answer will be accepted if it is not supported by Allah's Verse from The Exalted Quran.



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In answer to above statement, a nice and respected brother said; "Yes, the denier of the the names of the Sahaba of the last Prophet is out of Islam. Because the Sahaba of Noah are mentioned in The Quran, so go and get the names of the Sahaba of Noah."

-------I answered to the above.



To whom should we go to get the names of those Sahaba of Noah (AS)?

Go to Allah?---But, Allah did not mention their names in His Safe, Holy and Exalted Quran.
(Remember, Allah's Quran is The Only Truth in the universe. So my Allah is not giving me the names of those Sahaba in His Quran).

Now, history is left.
Should we go to the historians (humans) to know the names of the Sahaba of Noah (AS)?
History???-----which is full of fabrications, lies and corruption!!!
History has always been influenced by unjust rulers and corrupt rich classes and corrupt religious ulama karam.
History has always been written,---not to guide people to The Right Path,---but to hide the crimes of the above mentioned three unjust and cruel classes (unjust rulers and corrupt rich classes and corrupt religious ulama karam).

So, here, we are in a serious trouble, brother!---because,---
---Allah Himself has decided not to give us the names of the Sahaba of the last Prophet, Abu Bakar, Umar, Ali, Fatimah, Hasan, Hussain, Ayesha.

Talking about History!---it is full of fabrication.

So, where should we go now to save our Iman,-----Because, as you quoted, that such a person is not a momin, in spite of fulfilling the basic requirements of Iman, because he denies to have Iman in the names of the Sahaba given in the history???????

So,-----what is the solution to this trouble?

Yes, we should go to our CareTaker Allah.
Because, only Allah alone can take us out of this trouble.

So,---I ask my Allah, "O my Allah, if knowing the names of the Sahaba and the family members of the last Prophet, is compulsory for my Iman, then please give us the names of those rightly guided people. -----Indeed, You are The Hearer, All Knower!"

And brother!---Do you know what solution my Allah gave to me?

-----"That was a nation (the Messengers, their companions) which has passed away. For them is that which they earned, and for you is that which you earn. And you will not be asked of what they used to do."  (Al-Baqarah-134)

Contemplate!


The brother said, "And there are many Prophets with them are their companions [Sahaba], you have to get all the names of them all, cause they are all blessed by Allah and saved, otherwise you will not be a Mu'min."

-------My answer to the above.



No, brother!
Allah do not Will us to know the names of those Sahaba of the Prophets. If it had been compulsory to know the names of the Sahaba of all the Prophets, Allah Himself would have given their names, and had ordered us to have Iman in them.

Rather, Allah declares clearly that you don't have any need to know those Sahabas, and you don't have to worry about them.

-----"That was a nation (the Messengers, their companions) which has passed away. For them is that which they earned, and for you is that which you earn. And you will not be asked of what they used to do."  (Al-Baqarah-134)

So, my dear brother, I don't have to worry about the companions of the Prophet. And they don't have to worry about me. Everyone must worry about his ownself only.
For them is that which they earned. For me is that which I earn. We are not responsible for each other. Then why should I worry to know their names?

The Verses from our Allah's Exalted Quran, that you have quoted, only tells us that there were Sahaba of the Messengers, but do not command us to get those names.

Knowing those names of the Sahaba, will not benefit us in the least,-----because, no one else, but Allah Himself has stopped us to establish any relationship with those Sahaba.

-----"That was a nation (the Messengers, their companions) which has passed away. For them is that which they earned, and for you is that which you earn. And you will not be asked of what they used to do."  (Al-Baqarah-134)

Yes, Allah will not ask us what did they use to do,---what did they use to say,---and what did they narrate about Islam and about the sayings of the Prophet.

Yes, nothing,----Allah guarantees us that He will not ask us about anything that those Sahaba used to do, and used to say.

According to Allah, we have no relationship with what they did, and what they said.




Dear brother, if Allah had Willed, He Himself would have given us the names of the Sahaba, the family members of the Prophet, (Abu Bakar, Umar, Ali, Fatimah, Hasan, Hussain, Ayesha)-----but, since, Allah Himself Willed, not to let us know the names of the Sahaba and the family members of the last Prophet,----then who can go against Allah's Will?

What names Allah Willed, gave in His Exalted Book.
Iblees, Korah are condemned,---to tell us not to become like them.

Zul Qurnain, Luqman are admired,---to tell us to become like them.

What Allah Willed, He did.



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Now, brother!---Do we know, why Allah do not Will us to know the names of those Sahaba and the family members of The Last Prophet?

Yes, because,---"Personality-worshipping"---starts by knowing the names of those rightly-guided people.

People start talking, mentioning, remembering, adoring,-----and eventually end up worshipping those family members of the Prophet and the Sahaba by taking and following the alleged narrations, that are linked with those people.

Ali, Fatimah, Hasan, Hussain, Abu Huraira, Abdullah ibn Umar, Abdullah ibn Abbaas,---are these names not being worshipped???
Are these names not being worshipped, besides Allah???

Are the fabricated narrantions linked with these Sahaba not being taken as Deen, instead of Allah's Quran?????


Whereas, Allah declares:
-----"That was a nation (the Messengers, their companions) which has passed away. For them is that which they earned, and for you is that which you earn. And you will not be asked of what they used to do."  (Al-Baqarah-134)

The ummah has got no business with the names of the family members of the Prophet and the Sahaba.

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Respected brothers/sisters!

Is it not true, that Allah didn't mention the names of the Sahaba in His Exalted Quran and never commanded us to have Iman in the names of the Sahaba.---Yes, it is true!

So, is it not true, that if a person says he will not have Iman in the names of the Sahaba which are not in Al-Quran, he is not a kafir???---Yes, he is not a kafir!

So, when a person have no Iman in the names Umar, Ali, Fatimah, Abu Huraira, Abdullah ibn Umar, Abdullah ibn Abbaas,----then why should he have Iman in the narrations which are, allegedly,  linked with them???

If someone tells a person, "Abu Huraira said."
That person will say, "Who is Abu Huraira? I don't have Iman in him. So why should I accept whatever he says?"

Did you see, with this the whole fabric of The Science of Hadith becomes ramshackle-----so obviously!
And the whole fabric of Shia Deen crumbles down,-----even more obviously!


Every corruption in Deen starts by having Iman in the names of the family members of the Prophet, and the Sahaba of the Prophet.

Once people accept these names as the names of the family members of the Prophet, and his Sahaba,---now, they can never deny what is narrated (ahadith) using their names.

And accepting these names (Abu Bakar, Umar, Usman, Ali, Fatimah, Hasan, Hussain, Abu Huraira, Abdullah ibn Umar, Abdullah ibn Abbaas)---is not Allah's Will.-----Allah's Quran, is Allah's Will.



So, there are no ahadith in Islam.
And there is no Shia Sect in Islam.
These two are nothing but, Corruption in Deen.

And this is Allah's Will, that other than His Exalted Quran, everything is Corruption.


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This is Allah's Will.
Read Allah's Quran, more and more, repeatedly,----to know Allah's Will.


The Corrupt, Sectarian and Criminal "Ulama Karam" are responsible for the Downfall and Humiliation of this Ummah at the hands of the kuffaar. These criminal Ulama Karam have made the Ummah their slaves, and have divided them into Haram and Mushrik SECTS!
These Criminal "Ulama Karam" knowingly stop people from Allah.
Indeed the biggest criminals are the people themselves. They delibrately run away from Allah and His Exalted Quran.

Student of Allah

Salam guyz,

Want to see hypocrisy first hand ??? Ask a sunni/shia why he does not believe in the historians that wrote about Jesus(pbuh) many years after his death. They will point out that Jesus did not walk around preaching the Bible, we must follow Injeel to follow Jesus(pbuh), because Jesus did not authorize the Bible.

I only wish that someday these people will step outside their double standard world and before telling a christian that Jesus preached the Injeel not Bible, they will tell themselves first that Muhammad(pbuh) preached the Qur'an not sahih muslim/bukhari.

I am no scholar, but I am not ignorant brainwashed parrot either.


Peace be on you
May Allah guide us all

--------- Soldier of Allah
[url=http://studentofallah.blogspot.com/]"Student of Allah"'s blog[/url]

TruthBehindIt

Salam and Peace!
Hadith is authenticated by the Ulama Karam of the last Ummah, and not by Allah!

The Corrupt, Sectarian and Criminal "Ulama Karam" are responsible for the Downfall and Humiliation of this Ummah at the hands of the kuffaar. These criminal Ulama Karam have made the Ummah their slaves, and have divided them into Haram and Mushrik SECTS!
These Criminal "Ulama Karam" knowingly stop people from Allah.

Indeed the biggest criminals are the people themselves.
They delibrately run away from Allah and His Exalted Quran.

theNabster

rahenijaat1,

excellent post...

very nice logical angle on how to refute the legitimacy of hadiths in Allah's deen...

Thanks bro...

Salaam

Nabil
41:53 We will show them Our Signs in the universe, and in their own selves, until it becomes manifest to them that this (Qur'an) is the truth.