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Decide what Allah spoke thru Quran... it's up to you..

Started by jkhan, January 25, 2025, 12:25:12 AM

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jkhan

Do you think Jabal is mountain in Al Quran always.. let's see

Jabal = scholar, Jibal= scholars.. Thair = Disciples while jabal is mountain as well and Thair means birds too and I am not here to talk about it as you know already..

13:31 And if there were to be a Resolution that could transition the Scholars (jibal) with it, or influence the expositions through it, or engage in conversation with the insane(mawta) by means of it, the ultimate command would still rest entirely with Allah .."

However, even if such a Resolution were to exist and have these powerful effects, the ultimate authority and control over all outcomes and decisions would still belong to Allah. This reflects a worldview where human efforts and solutions are seen as tools or means, but the final say and overarching power rests with the divine.

2:260 And when Ibrahim said, 'Show me, Lord, how you revive the insane (al mawta)', He said, 'haven't you professed'? He said, yes, nevertheless, to content my thought. He said, then withhold, ruined (arbat) ones from the disciples (thair), then incline them to you, subsequently, assign at each scholar (Jabal) a section from them. Subsequently, invite them, and they will come to you as an outcome

there are many verses where Jabal or Jibal is involved that are indeed scholars.. while even word thair that are disciples..
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jkhan

We know as of now what Al Quran is, yes it is The Resolution to be precise.. Now, let's see what 'SURA' is and this word is generally translated as CHAPTER..

SURA sīn wāw rā (س و ر)= overpower with influence / overwhelm / divinity / transcendence / grace

38:21 Has there come to you information of the litigants(khami) when they overpowered (thuswaru) the debate (al mihrab)?


2:23 If you were to be in doubt, upon what We originated at our dependent, then render with a divinity/transcendence (sura) from its similarity.

11:13 Or do they say, he invented it, say, 'then render divinities/transcendences (sur) in embodiment (BiAshar) similar to it.'

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7:142 And We covenanted Musa of thirty concerns (Laila), and We accomplished them in embodiment (BiAshar). Then, he accomplished his Lord's evaluations; Concerns of Competency (arabain).


I just added the above verse since it has the word BiAshar..
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jkhan

Let's see the below verses... if you read carefully, it is clear that it is not a bird that was speaking to Sulaiman but a DISCIPLE (Thair).

27:20 When he (Sulaiman) investigated (thafaqqad) the disciples (Al Thair), he said, 'What! For me, I don't see the mischief-maker (hudhud), or was he among the extreme (ghaibeen)?

27:21 Surely, I will penalize/demean of an intense humiliation or else, surely confine to solitary/isolate (dhāl bā ḥā (ذ ب ح) unless he renders me a manifest justification(sultan).


The above root dhāl bā ḥā (ذ ب ح) / confine to solitary is what Ibrahim was about to do to his son before Allah interfered... Every verse in Quran connected with this root is most probably about 'confine to solitary' not slaughter... Even the verses of Pharo and Musa.. Pharo was not killing the sons of children of Israel but 'confined to solitary'.. what about Allah's command to children of Israel with a cow..
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jkhan

Quote from: jkhan on February 02, 2025, 12:40:04 AMLet's see the below verses... if you read carefully, it is clear that it is not a bird that was speaking to Sulaiman but a DISCIPLE (Thair).

27:20 When he (Sulaiman) investigated (thafaqqad) the disciples (Al Thair), he said, 'What! For me, I don't see the mischief-maker (hudhud), or was he among the extreme (ghaibeen)?

27:21 Surely, I will penalize/demean of an intense humiliation or else, surely confine to solitary/isolate (dhāl bā ḥā (ذ ب ح) unless he renders me a manifest justification(sultan).


The above root dhāl bā ḥā (ذ ب ح) / confine to solitary is what Ibrahim was about to do to his son before Allah interfered... Every verse in Quran connected with this root is most probably about 'confine to solitary' not slaughter... Even the verses of Pharo and Musa.. Pharo was not killing the sons of children of Israel but 'confined to solitary'.. what about Allah's command to children of Israel with a cow..


Let's see what Naml is in Al Quran/The Resolution

27:17 And gathered to Sulaiman, his crews from the human self and jinn self and the disciples (thair), and they were marching/driving ahead.

27:18 Eventually when they came upon a valley of the craftsmen (wadi al naml), a craftswoman said, 'O the craftsmen, cease your movements lest it spoils yours while Sulaiman and his crews, they do not perceive.


Such a beautiful verse. She reminded everyone (craftsmen and craftswomen) to stop their work since lots of delicate movements are involved in their work. And Sulaiman's crew is marching ahead with force and it can crumble their craftsmanship. So the only option is to come to motionlessness.
It is not a valley of ants..
This root of naml is amazing root.. it has the meaning of mend and it is connected with fingers as well.. namal cannot be artisan but rightly it is craftsman..
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jkhan

Have you ever thought about what "bakara" means in the verses where Musa (Moses) is concerned? I mean, why did Allah command the people of Musa to slaughter a cow? what is so special in slaughtering a cow? If it were a cow with such detailed characteristics—later specified one by one by Allah—then their questions would be justified, and they could not have slaughtered a cow of their own choice when Musa said simply 'Allah command you to slaughter a cow.' Isn't that so? But the truth is, it is not a cow at all. "Bakara" in those verses refers to 'contaminated water.' They already knew they were using contaminated water, but Allah directly commanded them to contain/confine the 'contaminated water.' However, they refused and asked questions as if they were unaware of what they were doing—as if to say, "Which water do you mean, Musa?" These verses are from 2:67-71.. contaminated water can be called as yellow water as well.. There is a big reason why Allah commanded to children of Israel (preferred ones) to contain contaminated water from its usage completely not even to water plants.. if you read 2:67-71 with their precise meaning you will realize it is not COW as traditionally translated but it is something else, and that something else is 'contaminated water'

2:67 And when Musa said to his citizens 'verily, Allah commands you that you contain/confine to solitary contaminated water (bakara).' They said 'Are you making fun of us.' He said, 'I recourse in Allah that I be among the ignoring.'

2:68 They said, 'Call for us to your Lord to manifest for us what it is.' He said, 'Verily He says that it is contaminated water, neither utilizable nor palatable, dragged between that.' So, do what you were commanded.

2:69 They said, 'Call for us to your Lord to manifest for us what its color.' He said that He says that it was yellowish contaminated water; Its state of filthy condition concealing the observers. 

2:70 They said, 'Call for us to your Lord to manifest for us what it is. Indeed, the contaminated water seemed/looked alike to us, and we surely would have been guided, if Allah had acted/caused.

2:71 He said that He says that it is contaminated water, neither soaking to plowing the land nor irrigating the sound field. No biodiversity/natural diversity (shiat) therein. They said, 'Finally, you have come with the fact.' Then they contained it/confined it to solitary while they were not willing to do.


My Lord, you are amazing with your verses when you clarify them for us.
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jkhan

20:11 So, as soon as he came to it, he was called, 'O Musa.'
   
20:12 It's Me, I am your Lord, so hold your straps that you are in the state of moderation of integrating the spiritualization/sanctification.
 
20:13 While I have prospered you, and heed what is instilled (yuha).


Traditionally translated as 'remove your sandals/shoes'. It precisely should be 'hold your straps'.. It is not about any sanctity about the location but read the verse, and you will get it.. The conundrum with most is they take Al Quran's most verses in physical aspects while Al Quran is concerned with spiritual aspects.
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jkhan

Wahi wāw ḥā yā (و ح ي)? What is it in the Quran's true sense?
Wahi = INSTILL and not reveal or inspire.. but INSTILL ... let's see.. I already brought to light the root of ILM and that has the meaning of Reveal..
3:44 "That is from the information of the profundity that We instill to you.."

The above verse is just an example from numerous verses, but let's concentrate on the below verse in detail..

42:51 "And it was not for a mortal that Allah to communicate to him except instilling (wahi), or from beyond intervention, or dispatching a dispatcher(rasool), then instill (yuhi) what He causes by His leave...."

The Dispatcher from Malak (controller) did not simply come, reveal, or dump and leave to the respective Nabis so that they dispatch/arsal whatever they understand without explaining what it is. Instead, these Malak dispatchers instilled what they brought from Allah to human dispatchers/rasools, but with the leave of Allah as He caused. That's why human Dispatchers—be it Musa, Isa, Mohamed, Ibrahim, or anyone—had perfect knowledge of what to educate (yuthla) to people through what they were instilled with by the Malak dispatchers.
Okay, what is instill? Let's open the dictionary. The word "instill" means to gradually introduce or implant an idea, feeling, habit, or value in someone over time. It often implies a slow and deliberate process of influencing or teaching someone.
However, the Malak Dispatcher may not instill everything but only what Allah causes (Yasha), leaving certain things for the future or others. In that case, those verses are just proper words, but their precise meanings are not known by human dispatchers unless they resolve (iqra) on their own. That's why Allah used in the above verse (42:51) 'Ma Yasha Allah', i.e., 'what Allah causes.' If the verse had ended without 'Ma Yasha Allah' and only said, 'Then instill by His leave,' it could have meant that all Human Dispatchers/Rasools were instilled with EVERYTHING from their respective instilling (wahi), leaving nothing. That did not happen; instead, it was only what Allah caused (note verse 3:7). No human dispatcher was instilled with such verses, but it was their effort to resolve such verses, albeit with the guidance of Allah. This Quran is a profound book, and human Dispatchers would not be able to deal with it within a short period of time and educate people unless they were instilled properly when it was revealed (ilm) to them. Without instilling, it would have become a serious issue for all human dispatchers..
Second point: What about others who were not educated by human dispatchers directly? For instance, people like us who research or study the Quran but were not directly educated (yuthla) by the Human Dispatcher of Allah? Yes, in that case, Allah instills directly. Remember well: INSTILL, not anything else. I mean not the third option in the verse, i.e., MIN WARAI HIJAB / from beyond intervention. Not that. This second option may not involve direct instilling from Allah, but a Malak may be involved whenever one tries to resolve Quran verses. However, the person who receives the instilling is not aware that they are being instilled by Allah through a Malak. In the first option, the person who is instilled knows that the Malak dispatcher instilled them (human dispatchers/rasool). I hope my wording is clear.
The third point is MIN WARAI HIJAB / from beyond intervention. With whom it happens is a mystery, and they and Allah alone know it. For example, Allah communicated to Musa and that has no intervention.
You can apply these criteria to every Quran verse, be it Musa's mother or bees etc.. They are all nothing but INSTILL but the way it is done is through one of the above methods. Even 'from beyond intervention' is INSTILL but, direct instilling..
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jkhan

Qasas qāf ṣād ṣād (ق ص ص) ... what is it? It is not 'relate, story, narrate, or legal retribution as they translated'

qāf ṣād ṣād (ق ص ص)  = retrospect / in retrospect/retrospection/Past. In addition, it can in certain contexts mean recollect/reminisce but retrospect is a strong meaning for qāf ṣād ṣād (ق ص ص)

let's see some verses..

12:3 "We are in retrospect to you, with the unprejudiced retrospection, through what We instilled in you of this—The Resolution—while you were, before it, surely among the naïve/inexperienced."

28:25 "... So when he (Musa) came to him, he engaged with him  in retrospect (qassa) on the past (qasas)...."

2:194-195 The violated action is through the violated action but for the violations retrospections (Qasaas). Then, whoever offended you, so offend with sameness what he offended on you. And be conscientious of Allah and realize that Allah accompanies the conscientious. And avail/contribute (nafaq) through tenets of Allah and do not hurl your influence into havoc/destruction. Be unprejudiced/equitable (ahsan), indeed Allah loves the equitable ones.


Qasaas itself is not legal retribution in the above verse, but actions taken against the crime, after comprehensive Qasaas/retrospection, are legal retribution and legal retribution is not worded here in the verse.
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jkhan

53:1-18 "And the constellation when inclined; not strayed your mate/occupant and not he got illusioned. And not he vindicated from the inclination; that it is except, an instilling, instilled. He revealed it by the clutch of firmness; holder of encounter, so he regulated. It is the supreme/infinite point of perception (ufuk). subsequently, he approximated and coaxed (fatadalla); So became Mass Scales (qab qawsain) or more proximate. Then he instilled to His dependent (ibadi), what he instilled. Not did contradict the instinct (alfuwud) that it experienced/went through. So do you dispute him over what he went through? And he experienced it through a prolonged introduction (nazalat), quitting (inda) barriers (almuntaha) of the bewilderment (sidra); Quitting with it the obsession of shelter (al mawa), when covering the bewilderment that covers; Not baffled the insight and not trespassed. Absolutely, he experienced the most tough explications from his Lord."

In the above verses 'constellation' is not stars but the constellation (interconnectedness) between the two i.e. Human Rasool and Malak Rasool (The two-persons dynamic) ... The constellation when inclined" could represent the moment when a higher authority (divine will, a guiding force, force of life) intervenes or aligns with the individual's path

•    Occupant/mate: The one receiving the instilling
•    The One Who Taught (The Constellation): The guide, mentor, or divine source imparting the knowledge. Allah Addressed the Malak who instilled the receiver, as The Constellation (al Najm), the one that interconnects. Amazing..

•    Everything before "then he instilled to His dependent what he instilled" can be seen as a process of preparation:
o    The occupant aligns with the higher order (constellation).
o    They remain steadfast and avoid deception.
o    They receive and internalize the truth through strength and resolve.
o    They reach a state of supreme perception (enlightenment or clarity).
o    They were almost like mass scale or even approximate and then only instilling took place

The Turning Point: Passing on the Knowledge
•    "Then he instilled to His dependent what he instilled" marks the culmination of this process.
•    The occupant, is now fully prepared and confident after shedding all the bewilderment and obsession of shelter he underwent etc.
•    But it was a tough learning curve for the mate/occupant.
•    And it seems like it was the first encounter of Nabi and Malak as the first ever revelation (ilm) took place and then instilled (wahi) the Nabi. There onwards it could have been regular visits of REVEAL(ilm) and INSTILL(wahi).
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jkhan

44:29 Then not lamented upon them the higher order (al samai) and lower order (al ardh), and they were in a state of ease.

33:72 Verily, We extended the Confidence (al amanat) upon the higher orders (al samawati) and the lower order (al ardh) and the adapted/fixed creations (al jibal), then they forbore to bear it and they frightened from it; but the human beings bore it. Verily, he became an ignorant wrongdoer.


'Extending confidence' is a crucial statement. That's why we, as human beings, were made in charge (khalifa) of the Earth and not anyone else, not even Jinns. Because we accepted Allah's' extending confidence', Allah placed us as Khalifs/in Charge. No one is in charge in any dimension they live in except human beings.

Here, in the verse higher order means (elevated ones) and the lower order means (degraded ones for whatever reasons). All from the Jinns.. and the 'adapted ones/al jibal' are those who never rejected God's command since they were created and programmed to adapt to what is built-in with them and, none of these creatures accepted the Amanat/the Confidence that Allah extended to them. They knew it was not possible to bear.. Note: the Adapted ones/Al Jibal are not animals as it sounds, but they are other creatures from Jinns who live beyond our dimension, lthey are neither higher nor lower with free will but are programmed. For instance, those who serve the inhabitants of the hereafter or those who are assigned as partners or friends in the hereafter..
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