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Out of the 7 Mary's in the Bibles, Who is Similar to the Mariam of the Quran?

Started by Euphoric, December 04, 2024, 02:40:01 PM

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Euphoric

Description Mariam of the Quran

- Mariam was Imraan's daughter (Q66:12)
- Mariam was called the "sister of Haroon" (Q19:28)
- Mariam was chosen and pure (Q3:42)
- Mariam was the mother of al-Maseeh Eissa (Q3:39)

Old Testament

- Miriam, daughter of Emran, sister of Aaron and Moses (Exodus 15:20, Numbers 12:1)

Mary's in the New Testament

- Mary, the mother of Jesus/Yashua (Matthew 1:18, Luke 1:27)
- Mary Magdalene (Matthew 27:56, John 20:1)
- Mary of Bethany, sister of Martha and Lazarus (John 11:1-2)
- Mary, the mother of James and Joses (Matthew 27:56, Mark 15:40)
- Mary, the mother of John Mark (Acts 12:12)
- Mary, a Roman Christian greeted (Romans 16:6)


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Euphoric

Quote from: Emre_1974tr on December 04, 2024, 11:02:20 PMhttps://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9612492.msg442619#msg442619

You shouldn't be interpreting the Quran using false books. There's no Jesus or Joshua in the Quran.

Even the origins of the name 'Eissa' is disputed by linguists. Some say it comes from a horse's semen or urine as Raghib mentioned.


Emre_1974tr

Quote from: Euphoric on December 06, 2024, 02:56:57 PMYou shouldn't be interpreting the Quran using false books. There's no Jesus or Joshua in the Quran.



The fake Gospels and fake Torah in the market are, as their name suggests, fake books. All of these are human-made hadith books and pagan works.

https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9609978.0

In the Quran, Jesus/Issa (Joshua) is mentioned, and I have demonstrated it with evidence.
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Euphoric

You're not making any sense...

If they're fake books, then why are you using their information? It's pointless, the information is fake too...

Only way you know about Jesus is through fake books...How can you interpret the Quran with fake information?

Jesus is fake, Joshua is fake.

Comparing the Gospels to the Quran, Jesus was a disbeliever, he can't be Eissa of the Quran. His mother doesn't fit the description of the fake books.

So there's no Jesus a Messenger of God in the Quran since he was a fraud and a liar in comparison to the Quran.

On top of that, Jesus was a bastard.

So again, fake books means fake information which means Jesus and Joshua were fake too.

Quote from: Emre_1974tr on December 06, 2024, 09:07:41 PMThe fake Gospels and fake Torah in the market are, as their name suggests, fake books. All of these are human-made hadith books and pagan works.

https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9609978.0

In the Quran, Jesus/Issa (Joshua) is mentioned, and I have demonstrated it with evidence.


Emre_1974tr

Quote from: Euphoric on December 07, 2024, 09:30:56 AMYou're not making any sense...




No, you have completely misunderstood the Quran on this matter. What you are saying is almost entirely wrong. Secondly, I am not taking anything about Jesus from the fake Gospels. I am saying that Joshua in the fake Torah is Jesus. The life of Joshua in the fake Torah is also filled with incorrect narratives. However, there are some parts that align with the Quran and are correct.
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Euphoric

I completely understand that you're confused.

If the Torah is fake, then the information about Joshua in the fake Torah is also fake  :! You're using fake information...

Jesus only exists in the Gospels, and if those are fake Gospels, then information about Jesus is fake too  :rotfl:

It's simple logic.

So Joshua is fake, Jesus is fake too since both are coming from fake books.

There's no Jesus or Joshua in the Quran.

Quote from: Emre_1974tr on December 07, 2024, 09:36:31 AMNo, you have completely misunderstood the Quran on this matter. What you are saying is almost entirely wrong. Secondly, I am not taking anything about Jesus from the fake Gospels. I am saying that Joshua in the fake Torah is Jesus. The life of Joshua in the fake Torah is also filled with incorrect narratives. However, there are some parts that align with the Quran and are correct.

Emre_1974tr

Quote from: Euphoric on December 07, 2024, 10:22:59 AMI comp


No, the one who is confused and has completely misunderstood is you.

There are some pieces of accurate information in the fake Torah that align with the Quran. For example, the existence of God, or that Jesus/Joshua/Isa is the nephew of Moses and Aaron. Statements that agree with the Quran are correct as information.

Secondly, you have completely misunderstood the Quran as well, and your mind doesn't seem to work on these matters. May my Lord help you with this :))
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Euphoric

Make up your mind, is it a fake Torah or not? :rotfl:

You can't have "some pieces of accurate information" if it's fake, do you even know what fake means?

Fake book = Fake information.

Joshua = Fake, Jesus = Fake, there's no Joshua son of Mariam or Jesus of Nazareth in the Quran. There's only Eissa.

You're fabricating stories and attributing them to God

Jesus and Joshua didn't exist because your information comes from fake books.

What was Joshua's mother's name? You don't know.

Basic logic you're lacking in.

Quote from: Emre_1974tr on December 07, 2024, 11:46:04 AMThere are some pieces of accurate information in the fake Torah that align with the Quran. For example, the existence of God, or that Jesus/Joshua/Isa is the nephew of Moses and Aaron. Statements that agree with the Quran are correct as information.

Secondly, you have completely misunderstood the Quran as well, and your mind doesn't seem to work on these matters. May my Lord help you with this :))

Emre_1974tr

Quote from: Emre_1974tr on December 07, 2024, 09:36:31 AMNo, you have completely misunderstood the Quran on this matter. What you are saying is almost entirely wrong. Secondly, I am not taking anything about Jesus from the fake Gospels. I am saying that Joshua in the fake Torah is Jesus. The life of Joshua in the fake Torah is also filled with incorrect narratives. However, there are some parts that align with the Quran and are correct.


In the Quran, Isa/Joshua/Jesus' maternal uncles are Moses and Aaron, his mother is Mary, and his grandfather is Imran. In the fake Torah on the market, Isa/Joshua/Jesus' life is also described in this way.

But of course, the fake Torah contains many errors as well.  While the fake Torah contains accurate information on these basic facts, many of its other details are incorrect.

In short, the true life story of Jesus/Joshua/Isa is found only in the  holy Quran.  In contrast, the fake Gospels and fake Torah, which are human-written hadith- books available on the market, contain some truths but are intertwined with many falsehoods.
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