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Opposition to Rajm (Stoning to Death): Analysis and Refutation

Started by centi50, October 08, 2024, 01:22:57 PM

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centi50

Quote from: Mazhar on October 10, 2024, 08:46:20 AMFirstly we should reflect on a strange and striking thing regards grammar rules:



Feminine participle is mentioned first and masculine later. This is exception to the normal rule of sequencing male and female. Why? 

Salam bro,

I did not get you well. What are you really trying to say. I didn't understand your post


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centi50

Quote from: Bajram Hoxhaj on October 11, 2024, 02:21:04 PMSalaam

Why isn't stoning mentioned? Did a goat eat the verses? Likewise, many of the Hadith are Ḍaʿīf (weak), and anyone could have injected themselves into the chain of narrators, especially 100+ years later when these began to proliferate for political legitimacy, etc. It's similar to the below hearsay, "God said so, obey!"

1 Samuel 15:2-3 "Thus says the Lord of hosts, 'I have noted what Amalek did to Israel in opposing them on the way when they came up out of Egypt. Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.'"

Numbers 31:17 "Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man by lying with him."

Deuteronomy 3:6 "We completely destroyed them, as we had done with Sihon king of Heshbon, destroying every city—men, women and children."

Joshua 6:21 "They devoted the city to the Lord and destroyed with the sword every living thing in it—men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep and donkeys."

https://sunnah.com/bulugh/10/11

Sa'id bin Sa'd bin 'Ubadah (RAA) narrated, 'A small weak man was staying in our tribe, and he committed adultery with one of their slave-women. Sa'd mentioned this to the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ), and thereupon he said, "Flog him (according to) the prescribed penalty." The people then said, 'O Messenger of Allah! He is too weak to bear it.' The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) then said, "Get a stalk of the raceme of a palm tree with a hundred twigs and strike him just once." So, they did. Related by Ahmad, An-Nasa'i and Ibn Majah with a good chain of narrators.



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Very nice comment

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Quote from: centi50 on October 12, 2024, 06:38:24 AMBro your use of AI is very nice

Please can you show me the prompt and data you inluted to get that answer. I want to learn

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I conveyed Mazhar's question exactly to the AI. And I also said, "Answer carefully, taking your time to think deeply and thoroughly".

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Mazhar

Quote from: Emre_1974tr on October 12, 2024, 05:39:59 PMI conveyed Mazhar's question exactly to the AI. And I also said, "Answer carefully, taking your time to think deeply and thoroughly".

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This is excellent. Some basic rules need to be fed about word order of Arabic to make it think deeply and thoroughly.
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