Quote from: good logic on October 16, 2024, 10:51:06 AMSalam JinnJinn.
Ya, some keep repeating " If one does not understand Arabic , one cannot understand Qoran"!
I keep saying"GOD teaches and explains Qoran" regardless of the language.
Or may be it helps when one does not even use any language-for the straight path- like:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZVFarL_JwsA
Oh and I also keep saying the straight path and peace are the main message. So it does not matter how one understands Salat or does rituals or goes to the gym or plays snooker or...
One does what benefits their bodies and soul according to their own understanding also.
So why are we not accepting that people have their own faculties and are responsible for their use.
Or are we expecting people to follow our own reasoning and understanding?
So live and let others live if they are good and peaceful.
That is what Qoran says to me and that is the most important of all sayings.
GOD bless you.
Peace.
Hey fella, good evening!
Arabic is mandatory to understand Al Quran. After all it is a language that you don't speak, on top of that it is in ancient tone. If you read translation and deduce that you don't possibly need to know Arabic to understand Al Quran then it is false postulation and you will rely on translation and translation is not Al Quran. By this, I am not compelling you to learn Arabic first prior to understanding Al Quran. But know the fundamental stature of the language and approach for a comprehensive dictionary and take every word into consideration when and where applicable take into consideration context and leave all translations aside in the process. That would help. Whatever, I am not your guide or disposer of affairs. Figure it out.
Secondly, it's not about whether I am right, or you are right, nevertheless it is about what is right, and what is fact and what is right is one, a single concept and it won't change from the book for everyone with their own reasoning, but the fact will remain as fact. That's the pinnacle of destination you have to approach.
For instance, Traditional Sunnah and Hadith followers claim is 'Obey Allah and obey Rasool' is two segments, and in case if you are against it then you are against their reasoning. They would possibly, say why you involve with our own reason? That's how they have understood it and they are afraid to step out of their understanding. So, they follow what they follow with their own reasoning leaving all pieces of advice null and void compared to their reasoning.
Don't think reasoning is always on the right track. Everyone can reason and reason to its finest, but the guidance of Allah only can take the reasoning towards the facts of Allah. You are not different from those who are traditional Muslims. You are not allowing the guidance of Allah to reach with your reasoning. You highlight your reasoning above all and blur the guidance of Allah. It won't work out in that manner. That's why you follow rituals as you claim and substantiate them. You don't allow the guidance of Allah, and you think your reasoning is better than the guidance of Allah, but you don't perceive it since you don't open your door.
Quote from: shukri on October 16, 2024, 03:30:05 AMYes, the people who believe salat is ritual fully believed that the proof with them like 2+2=4
And the proof with you lean towards 2+2=5
How to solve that!
Good evening, Boyo, Shukri!
Hey Sorry, your nickname is Shukri and I corrected it.
If 2+2 = 4 for you traditional people, then why pray 2 times a day or 3 times a day or 5 times a day? Why three sects? Who is right here? Is it difficult to figure out how many times you have to pray daily?