Is it ok to be a Quran alone Sufi?

[Ervin]

Selam. I was just wandering what do the rest of you think about wether it makes sense to be a Quranist sufi?

I understand that the rigid translation of the Quran would make one think that it doesn't make sense but I believe that you can be following the Quran alone but interpret its teachings as the sufis do.

I would encourage all of you to google  the internet site called sounds true(they are mainly a hypnosis people) and to download the sufi audio wich speaks of love for God. I have been listening it tonight and I find it very good.

Anyway, what do the rest of you think? 

[the path of light]

Ervin, I think it is most certainly okay to be a Quran alone Sufi. 

[Ervin]

Peace.
I suppose diferent people have  a different interpretation of the Quran and there are sufis who are not even Muslims. So I supose this way your intepretation has a name.

Thanks

[Bigmo]

Ervin, I think it is most certainly okay to be a Quran alone Sufi.

Yes I agree. Personally I think its a very good combination. But also many Koranist accept many hadiths as long as it does not contradict the Koran. But a Koranist should not take binding what the Koran did not explicitly make binding. Make binding i mean to other Koranist. Other Koranist have the right to only take their deen from the Koran. I personally prefare to look at the previous scriptures when I try to analyse some of the Koranic verses. Other might look into hadiths, others might try to deduce it from the Koran alone. But only what the Koran made binding through an explicit verse should be made binding on all Koranist and in no situation should a Koranist accept what contradicts an explicit verse of the Koran. Then he can't be a Koranist by definition.

One of the problems that affected the Ahmed Subhi Mansour website was he did not understand all this. He takes the5 salat but he claims its binding (obligatory). Many other Koranist did not and this created a conflict. Its simply not workable.

We are told in the Koran that differences (ikhtilaf) will be settled by God. Their will always be differences. Differences allow diversity and flexibility. Differences in interpretations makes a community stronger. But the Koran warned us that differences should not lead to seperation (iftiraq). Iftiraq is haram according to the Koran. God promised retribution to those who created furqa in their deen. Furqa can only come when we break those two commands. Nothing should be made binding except an e xplicit verse from the Koran and nothing should be taken, even voluntarily, if it contradicts an explicit verse of the Koran.

Any other way simply won't work and will create furqa. We are told in the Koran to unite and to consider ourselves one community.

As for those who divide Their religion and break up Into sects, you have no part in them in the least: Their affair is with Allah: He will in the end tell them the truth of all that they did.? [Al-Qur?an 6:159]

30.31-32  Adhere to Him, turning in repentance to Him, and fear Him and establish prayer and do not be of those who associate others with Allah, Or of those who have divided their religion and become sects, every faction rejoicing in what it has.

Hold fast to the Rope of Allah, all of you together and do not separate" (Quran 3:103)"

The sunnis interpret rope of allah as the sunnah. The shias interpret it as the family of the prophet. Anotherwords the hadith literature. Each having their own and rejoicing with them. The result is deep sectarianism and major bloodbath, precisely what the Koran predicted when it said:

2:213 ? The people used to be one nation, then God sent the prophets as bearers of good news and warners, and He sent down with them the Scripture with the facts so that they may judge between the people in what they were disputing. But after receiving the clarity, the people disputed in it due to animosity between them. And God guided those who believed with His permission regarding what they disputed in of the truth. And God guides whoever He wishes to a straight path

The Sunni/Shia split occured AFTER the Quran was revealed out of political rivalries.

But as far as the Koran is concerned, the rope of Allah are the scriptures. Thats why these two commands are so crucial.


21: 92 "Verily, you are one Ummah. I am your Lord, worship me."

[Ervin]

I've posted this around 12 years ago, and wanted to revisit it now. Once again it sounds good to me, but I would need a sheikh or should I take Quran as the sheikh in Quran only Islam. This brings me to question of should we have a leader, like someone who would have the last word on the teachings, like others have an Imam?

Thanks

[JinnJinn]

I've posted this around 12 years ago, and wanted to revisit it now. Once again it sounds good to me, but I would need a sheikh or should I take Quran as the sheikh in Quran only Islam. This brings me to question of should we have a leader, like someone who would have the last word on the teachings, like others have an Imam?

Thanks

Su*k your own d*ck, and that's better than su*cking your Imam's. It may not taste better but worthy it is.

Let me put it in good words; perhaps you would concentrate. Your Imam is Ibraheem, and his practices transpire in the Quran. Follow as much as you understand and wait for guidance on which you have limitations. Your guide is Allah and depend on him Alone. Is that a problem for you? if so, go find an imam and keep suc*king as much as you are satisfied. On the day of judgment f*ck him for guiding you to hell. You are like the people of Musa, and they loved an idol like others devoted to it.