Why do you reject the 4 Gospels and which p of the Tanakh do you reject and why?

[Ervin]

Salam everyone. I just wanted to explore the Bible a bit. Now, why do you reject the 4 Gospels in the New Testament? I'm not talking about the books that Paul wrote, Paul contradicted Jesus on some points, so I reject him because of it. In the book of Mathew Jesus prophecies about the end days, so I don't see the need for the book of revelations.
In the Tanakh( the Old Testament), do you reject that the flood during Noah's time for instance was global, or do you think it was a local flood.
Why do you believe in the Quran instead of the Bible?  I'm a bit disappointed with many Christians here in Melbourne Australia, most of them believe in the whole New Testament even though there are teachings there that contradict Jesus's teachings.

Thanks

[Emre_1974tr]

I have been explaining under this title for years:

https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9609978.0

Peace

[Ervin]

Thanks Emre, I appreciate that.
Now, the Gospels were from the people who saw Jesus doing this and that and Muhammad came around 600 years later and he put his version of Christ.
Now, whom should I trust, the people that knew him or Muhammad who didn't know and who didn't see him?

Love and Thanks

[Wakas]

The Quran is far superior to The Bible in terms of preservation/teachings/credibility. Many many videos and articles online about it, e.g. this channel has many videos on it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0WSzqnJzRo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=183HJ0ZR-OA

In the Tanakh( the Old Testament), do you reject that the flood during Noah's time for instance was global, or do you think it was a local flood.

https://misconceptions-about-islam.com/misconception.php?id=49

[Emre_1974tr]

Thanks Emre, I appreciate that.
Now, the Gospels were from the people who saw Jesus doing this and that and Muhammad came around 600 years later and he put his version of Christ.
Now, whom should I trust, the people that knew him or Muhammad who didn't know and who didn't see him?

Love and Thanks

The fake Gospels on the market are human-written hadith books. Just like the books of Bukhari or Tirmidhi... In contrast, the Quran is the holy book containing the words of God.

In other words, you will trust only in Allah. In other words, in the Quran, which is the word of Allah...

Greetings and love

[good logic]

Peace Ervin.
Welcome back.

Why did GOD renew the message?

Why did GOD not sent just one scripture to start with and preserve it for all generations of humans?

Qoran gives us this answer and tells us that GOD knows the future and planned according to the generations ,their test, capabilities and knowledge of their time on earth.

Look at our technology generations for example. We live different, think different and have a different knowledge than the past generations. Each generation evolves/learns/improves or regresses according to its efforts.
So the scriptures are a continuation of this process. For example Judaism was followed by Christianity which in turn was followed by Islam.Each part was a whole to the generation receiving it.

Put simply GOD was replacing one by the other with the most important common message in all three- GOD is your Lord and our Lord, serve/follow only His system- Each was a different trial to the generation. All asking the people to submit to GOD Alone and follow GOD Alone..

So all scriptures that are from GOD require GOD s guidance. All containing the complete set of info for the religion and how to redeem the people.

GOD also knew that most people will pretend to follow GOD or disbelieve and oppose GOD. These type will work hard to corrupt and give a different narrative for the religion ,i.e create their own type of religion to hide the truth...

At the turn of the civilisation= AD-,reading and writing improved- instead of mostly oral types- and the birth of the press. GOD sent a scripture that would be easy to preserve its contents . It would be kept for all the generations that follow.

Qoran is that scripture. It explains GOD s plan and what happened in the past.
Please read these links. it gives an outlook/ view on this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnYGkYamV4U&t=459s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBY1aRGyz2U&t=45s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5qJqxK6CMk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVCQR8fxqxY

Thank you.
GOD bless you.
Peace.

[hawk99]

Salam everyone. I just wanted to explore the Bible a bit. Now, why do you reject the 4 Gospels in the New Testament? I'm not talking about the books that Paul wrote, Paul contradicted Jesus on some points, so I reject him because of it. In the book of Mathew Jesus prophecies about the end days, so I don't see the need for the book of revelations.
In the Tanakh( the Old Testament), do you reject that the flood during Noah's time for instance was global, or do you think it was a local flood.
Why do you believe in the Quran instead of the Bible?  I'm a bit disappointed with many Christians here in Melbourne Australia, most of them believe in the whole New Testament even though there are teachings there that contradict Jesus's teachings.

Thanks

Peace Ervin,

    There are a few reasons why I reject the four gospels.  I'll just cite one for now.
Those books are not from Allah revealed to Isa ibn Mariyam.

God bless you

                                       

[Ervin]

Peace and thanks everyone, I've read the Kuran in English and Yugoslav(Serbocroatian, Bosnian, it's all preety much the same), I call it Yugoslav. And in the Kuran it's written that if mankind and Jin were to come together they wouldn't be able to write even ......, so it preety much says that it's the best written book. When I tell people that I've read it and don't find it to be that good, they say well you have to read it in Arabic. If that's the case then it's only that good for Arabs, or for others who know and can speak Arabic.
I've read the Bible in English and Yugoslav and it's good in either language. I have to admit that the Kuran does sound lot better in Yugoslav compared to English translation. Ok somwhere in the Kuran it's written something like those who are after mischief wanna discuss/ know the less understandable parts of it and that no one knows there meaning but God. What's wrong with trying to understand it, in other places says it's a clear book.

Just so you know I don't know how to open on this phone that I have two pages at the same time in order to look up the verses so I'm just going of my memory and I don't have a computer.


I'm maybe not right, but what's your answer to these points. Do you really think it's the best written book/scripture in the world?

I'm just being honest, I mean there are contradictions in the Bible, I mean Paul in the New Testament contradicts Jesus on some very important points, so o recent Paul as a prophet or apostle. Jesus warned that there will be false prophets.

I have always liked this forum and all people in it. Nothing gets censored, people are very friendly on this forum. By the way, I'm not like considering the Hadith, I've tried that black cumin oil long time ago and Hadith claims that heals everything but death and I wasn't healed and there's plenty of other reasons. I'm preety sure that most of you know when I did come out of psychosis naturally, it's in the health and fitness section on this forum.

I mean in the book of Isiah in the Old Testament it does seem that Jesus was prophecied. And Tanakh/the Old Testament is brutal in some parts, but it is well written.

Anyway, I'm looking for answers and I do appreciate your input!

Thanks

[Ervin]

Peace and thanks everyone, I've read the Kuran in English and Yugoslav(Serbocroatian, Bosnian, it's all preety much the same), I call it Yugoslav. And in the Kuran it's written that if mankind and Jin were to come together they wouldn't be able to write even ......, so it preety much says that it's the best written book. When I tell people that I've read it and don't find it to be that good, they say well you have to read it in Arabic. If that's the case then it's only that good for Arabs, or for others who know and can speak Arabic.
I've read the Bible in English and Yugoslav and it's good in either language. I have to admit that the Kuran does sound lot better in Yugoslav compared to English translation. Ok somwhere in the Kuran it's written something like those who are after mischief wanna discuss/ know the less understandable parts of it and that no one knows there meaning but God. What's wrong with trying to understand it, in other places says it's a clear book.

Just so you know I don't know how to open on this phone that I have two pages at the same time in order to look up the verses so I'm just going of my memory and I don't have a computer.


I'm maybe not right, but what's your answer to these points. Do you really think it's the best written book/scripture in the world?

I'm just being honest, I mean there are contradictions in the Bible, I mean Paul in the New Testament contradicts Jesus on some very important points, so o recent Paul as a prophet or apostle. Jesus warned that there will be false prophets.

I have always liked this forum and all people in it. Nothing gets censored, people are very friendly on this forum. By the way, I'm not like considering the Hadith, I've tried that black cumin oil long time ago and Hadith claims that heals everything but death and I wasn't healed and there's plenty of other reasons. I'm preety sure that most of you know when I did come out of psychosis naturally, it's in the health and fitness section on this forum.

I mean in the book of Isiah in the Old Testament it does seem that Jesus was prophecied. And Tanakh/the Old Testament is brutal in some parts, but it is well written.

Anyway, I'm looking for answers if possible on the points I've raised and I do appreciate your input! I an reading your responses, I am listening.

Thanks

[Ervin]

Salam everyone. You know when I came out of psychosis without psych drugs(it's a story you can read in health and fitness) I did believe in Koran only and maybe I made a mistake for being honest to all the psychiatrists atheists. So maybe after they put me back on drugs I relapsed after coming of it after that.