📢 The grammatical inconsistency in 9:128 proves Rashad was a messenger of God!

[Mazhar]

The Glorious Quran was revealed in manifest Arabic language and that's the claim of the Author of the book called Al Quran.. So, Brother Mazhar, it sounds like Arabic was a manifest language at the time of the revelation of the Quran to be revealed in manifest Arabic language.. Isn't it? . If anything lacking in a language, it can't be completely revealed with the utmost linguistic style.. In order to reveal a book in such a language, first of all, the language should have its alphabet intact and its phonetics.. And no contradictory and confused claims as they claim in modern days dividing into two sects just to know how many letters this language indeed has.  ....

Every language is laid open to changes when time elapses and its location and the culture of people play a role in the modification of a language.... I don't mind the way Arabic is around the world nowadays, orally or written..
Nonetheless, the Quran is complete and it was completed in ancient times... No modification can be added to the language and its style it is written since they had a MANIFEST language called Arabic, phonetically and in writing...
So, a well-known fact is that Arabic has 28 letters from ancient times, and if a number of letters increased it should only be an addition to the taste of the latest modifications in the language and that cannot be considered with a book that is already complete in the manifest written language in the past..
I don't care at all if you claim 29 letters or 30 letters or so on of your choice... What I care about is, how many letters, the actual Quran was written with and how many letters were there when the Quran was revealed and written.. That's why I prefer everyone to verify whether these manuscripts date back to almost 1400 years as it is claimed by radiocarbon authentication... If it is indeed 1400+ years old, then one can deduce incontrovertibly that it is how Arabic was written in those days, and most probably that's how even the genuine Quran could also have been written taking into consideration that these are some examples of old manuscripts..
So you want to change the Quran according to the modified language of Arabic which existed after the Quran was revealed and written... That's an inexplicable approach and has no worth at all..

Well.. You are blindly asking me about vowels... unfortunately, I don't see vowels or diacritics or even hamza of any nature or even dots to differentiate what letter it is in the old manuscripts.. So, they knew by the word itself in the sentence.. So, that's the truth and let it be.. Of course, it is possible to identify and read even without any of the above that I mentioned which were added of late to the Arabic language.. Indeed these additions facilitated but not necessary.. So let the Quran be the Quran in its language..

Arabic seems to be a phonetic language, which means letters correspond to sounds... let it be..

Please say something about two letters. Do you think one of them is not in the alphabet of Arabic; and that have not been ever so?

[jkhan]

Please say something about two letters. Do you think one of them is not in the alphabet of Arabic; and that have not been ever so?

Verify it with old manuscripts if you believe they are old indeed..

[Mazhar]

Verify it with old manuscripts if you believe they are old indeed..

Do you know it is only Hamza that is the part of Arabic Roots while aleph is never?

[Bajram Hoxhaj]

In the link I furnished I am astonished to read the word AsMa'u Al Husna is written with double Alifs instead of Hamza at the end of ASMA'U.. الأَسماءُ

That's not a double alif; rather, it's the alif of the next word, Al-Ĥusná.
Additionally, in all old manuscripts, the initials are not separated verses.

For example: 20:1 طه ta ha (together with the next verse)

[jkhan]

That's not a double alif; rather, it's the alif of the next word, Al-Ĥusná.
Additionally, in all old manuscripts, the initials are not separated verses.

For example: 20:1 طه ta ha (together with the next verse)

Peace..

Yes... I know with certainty..

So the Alif after Meem would do the extension sound of MAa and No Uu and one of those Alifs is for the use of Al..

@BH... Kindly use the forum to share your Quran knowledge with honesty and not disgusting heated exchanges of words if your intention is pure... Hope you have patience in the future.. Remember Allah is watching us..

[jkhan]

Do you know it is only Hamza that is the part of Arabic Roots while aleph is never?

Brother Mazhar...
If the hamza itself is not a letter in the Quranic Arabic and in ancient Arabic, how can it be a root? Yes it can be a root letter in modern days and I don't mind.. That's the Arabic of these days..
I have no issues if you are adamant.. 

[Mazhar]

Brother Mazhar...
If the hamza itself is not a letter in the Quranic Arabic and in ancient Arabic, how can it be a root? Yes it can be a root letter in modern days and I don't mind.. That's the Arabic of these days..
I have no issues if you are adamant.. 

There are 71 Roots (I name them as semantic seeds) used in Grand Qur'an that have first radical Hamza.

Like
1.  ء ب ب

2.     ء ب د

3     ء ب ق

https://haqeeqat.pk/roots/intro.htm

[Bajram Hoxhaj]

Peace..

Yes... I know with certainty..

Salaam,

No, you wrote exactly what you wrote, thinking Alif was used in place of Hamza, which wasn't invented until the late 8th century CE.

Quote from: jkhan on July 14, 2024, 12:06:57 AM
In the link I furnished I am astonished to read the word AsMa'u Al Husna is written with double Alifs instead of Hamza at the end of ASMA'U.. الأَسماءُ

It's never this الْأَسْمَاءُ الْحُسْنَىٰ and consistly this الاسما الحسنى

see end of 5th line and 6th line from bottom الاسما الحسنى
https://corpuscoranicum.de/en/manuscripts/2278/page/1r?sura=20&verse=8

see 5th line from the top الاسما الحسنى
https://corpuscoranicum.de/en/manuscripts/59/page/110v?sura=20&verse=8

see 9th line from the bottom الاسما الحسنى
https://corpuscoranicum.de/en/manuscripts/107/page/15r?sura=20&verse=8

@BH... Kindly use the forum to share your Quran knowledge with honesty and not disgusting heated exchanges of words if your intention is pure... Hope you have patience in the future.. Remember Allah is watching us..

I used words from the Qur'an, whereas Shukri, who came with his "hurry hurry," ran away like a coward after I exposed his challenge. He knew most people would not bother to waste time flipping numbers 1000 times to check if they're multiples. I clearly showed him and anyone reading this site that their number-flipping can apply to any text, verse, etc., and yield around 60 multiples, including 1, 2, 3, 4—nonsense. Likewise, Kevin, after he was exposed, instead of thanking me for showing them this ignorant fake stuff coming from that Tucson, monkey zoo, got mad, calling me a wicked creature, and then followed with disgusting language.

[jkhan]

Salaam,

No, you wrote exactly what you wrote, thinking Alif was used in place of Hamza, which wasn't invented until the late 8th century CE.

Quote from: jkhan on July 14, 2024, 12:06:57 AM
In the link I furnished I am astonished to read the word AsMa'u Al Husna is written with double Alifs instead of Hamza at the end of ASMA'U.. الأَسماءُ

It's never this الْأَسْمَاءُ الْحُسْنَىٰ and consistly this الاسما الحسنى

see end of 5th line and 6th line from bottom الاسما الحسنى
https://corpuscoranicum.de/en/manuscripts/2278/page/1r?sura=20&verse=8

see 5th line from the top الاسما الحسنى
https://corpuscoranicum.de/en/manuscripts/59/page/110v?sura=20&verse=8

see 9th line from the bottom الاسما الحسنى
https://corpuscoranicum.de/en/manuscripts/107/page/15r?sura=20&verse=8

I used words from the Qur'an, whereas Shukri, who came with his "hurry hurry," ran away like a coward after I exposed his challenge. He knew most people would not bother to waste time flipping numbers 1000 times to check if they're multiples. I clearly showed him and anyone reading this site that their number-flipping can apply to any text, verse, etc., and yield around 60 multiples, including 1, 2, 3, 4—nonsense. Likewise, Kevin, after he was exposed, instead of thanking me for showing them this ignorant fake stuff coming from that Tucson, monkey zoo, got mad, calling me a wicked creature, and then followed with disgusting language.

Yes.. you are right the way Asma Al Husna is written in old manuscripts is like that.. But I knew the second Alif for the word Al Husna.. The reason I took that word is to bring to light that AsmaU is never written now ending with only one Alif but with a hamza otherwise it is totally wrong now.. I meant two Alifs to clearly denote that Asma is not even pronounced as Asma'U but Asma Al Husna with double Alifs and not as Asma'U Al Husna...

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Regarding your wording in the forum.. I was not talking about Shukri.. I was referring to the heated exchange between you and Brother KDC.. brother Shukri never used such words.. I hope both of you (BH and KDC) understand the value of using good language ... You may debate in a heated manner and it is natural but don't forget it is a forum and maintain the words used with limit.. call someone ignorant or lunatic or idiot if you feel so and it is part of the debate.. but disgusting words are not nice.. my opinion though..

[ZeZe]

I take this back because I was wrong about the grammar here. How does one remove posts here?

Salam