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How can we see the Palestine- Israel conflict from a Qur'an alone perspective

Started by Sarah, October 25, 2023, 02:28:15 PM

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good logic

Peace amin.
You say quote:
"Finally we fight for our own individual survival?, yes that is normal, but if we believe in God, we fight for just cause and will be successful."

This is not always possible. How can small children and weak people even begin to fight?
All peaceful people are entitled to live where they are born and should be treated as humans  and given equal rights.

Of course GOD is with the believers , but GOD has promised all of us to live our choices and decisions.Some choose evil ways..

I am saying those who support what is right are entitled to feel anger against wickedness and call out injustice..

GOD s knowledge and plan are already in place to save all the believers eventually.
GOD bless you.
Peace.
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Jafar

@Goodlogic
The question of the inquiry was on "Anger".. and straight away go to: is it wrong (or right) to be angry at X... whatever X is...
I didn't say neither..

However 'every thoughts, emotion, action' will be reflected back, the universal law of reflection / principle of mirror / law of attraction.
As such that:


Whether it's 'wrong' or 'right' it will be subjective to each soul and let each soul take such decision as such forming their own unique path.

good logic

I disagree with you brother Jafar.
Anger and action in anger are two different things.
Anger is an emotion and is only dangerous if it leads to wrong action.
Feeling anger  against wickedness and tyranny is natural.
Most feelings are natural and will only harm others if manifested into bad actions.
Humans cannot help feelings or thoughts coming to them.
We are responsible only for our actions.
GOD bless you.
Peace.
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Jafar

Quote from: good logic on November 12, 2023, 03:49:31 AM
Anger is an emotion.

I don't want to indoctrinate you so what I can give you is a pointer for you to seek out further.
Seek out "Law Of Vibration" and you will understand why Siddhartha said as such.

QuoteHumans cannot help feelings or thoughts coming to them.
Yes they can.. once dis-identification with the thoughts happened.
You've mentioned that you've practiced 'meditation'?
You will then find that out soon enough by yourself...

Jafar

I'm unexpectedly yet pleasantly surprised upon seeing this coming from Elon Musk.

Elon Musk on Israel-Hamas war:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2myO-slp7w

This strictly my opinion;
The goal of Hamas was to provoke an overreaction from Israel.
Hamas obviously did not expect to have a military victory.
But they expect they really wanted to commit the worst atrocities that they could.
In order to provoke the the most aggressive response possible from Israel.
And then leverage that aggressive response to rally support from Muslims worldwide for the cause of Gaza and Palestine.
Which they have succeeded in doing.
So the counterintuitive thing here I think that should be done; even though it is very difficult is that;
I would recommend that Israel engage in the most conspicuous acts of kindness possible.

-- Elon Musk


good logic

Peace Jafar.
Again feeling anger and taking action for or against your feeling are not the same.

When I feel angry , I take my own medication for it. We have to accept that others take their own also which can be helpful or damaging . Again , the feeling of anger happens in everyone for reasons and ways they believe in,understand...etc. regardless. That is my point.
.
I prefer to take time off to reflect as my medication, That is not to say I do not understand what you are saying.

Thank you for giving your opinion on this latest war.

My opinion is ongoing until I find evidence or will be given irrefutable evidence.
However I do not rule out Israel itself letting  Hamas go ahead, with full information/fully aware of the plot by their "Mossad agent" and informants to have an excuse to go in Gazza and take proper control inside it. Precedents exist for this sort of false flags and deceits by the west and Israel- Like Iraq war, Syrian war, Isis ...etc.
For now, GOD knows what happened, but we know also the full revenge that Israel is taking on guilty and innocent .
GOD bless you.
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Jafar

Quote from: good logic on November 12, 2023, 08:23:55 AM
When I feel angry , I take my own medication for it. We have to accept that others take their own also which can be helpful or damaging . Again , the feeling of anger happens in everyone for reasons and ways they believe in,understand...etc. regardless. That is my point. ..

I was mentioning "meditation" and not "medication"..
I do not recommend "medication" but I do recommend "meditation".
Through meditation one will realize that... you are not the thought and you are not the emotion..


good logic

My meditation is my medication brother Jafar. Or vise versa.  My Lord/creator is my doctor also..
If that makes sense to you ,if not, ignore my madness.
GOD bless you.
Peace.
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Jafar

Hamas is a 'right wing religious extremists'.
Today's Israel government is controlled by coalition led by Likud, 'right wing religious and nationalist extremist'.

Both has similarity in goal, to prove that "Oslo Accords" signed by Arafat (now Fatah) and Rabin + Peres (Kadima, the today's losing liberal party) was a mistake.

According to Hamas; the only language that Israelites can understand is the language of force.
According to Likud, the only language that the Arabs can understand is the language of force.
Both again share another similarity;
Only through power and subjugation of our enemies, we can secure our survival.

Both also uses 'religious belief' as platform to rally support and as a mean of justification of their action.
God has promised that the Jews will be eradicated from earth as prophesized by our prophet, says Hamas..
God has promised us, the chosen people, this land, as written in the Torah, thus we earn a divine right to it, says Likud.

Yet the world around them is changing...
The millennials (those who were born from 1980's onward) are more liberal, much less religious and left wing.
At least according to this study performed in the US, Britain and Western European countries.

Why are Young People so Pro-Palestine?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3cjV3tNd88

The young people will definitely NOT be "Pro Hamas" either once they learned what Hamas is all about.

good logic

There is a  difference between Hamas and Fatah. Who is Hamas and where does it originate from?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7grSsuFSS0

Just like the story of ISIS. Supported and financed  by Mossad and the CIA directly and indirectly?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU2avVIHde8&t=616s

Set  one faction against another watch them destroy each other- Of course -ISIS- the Frankenstein Monster also turns against America and the west- . Then have a reason to destroy Muslims and tar them with the same brush.

Or  Muslims have brought it on themselves?
Power games with atrocities are many , most  have hidden agendas.
GOD bless.
Peace.
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