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How can we see the Palestine- Israel conflict from a Qur'an alone perspective

Started by Sarah, October 25, 2023, 02:28:15 PM

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Quote from: l-nuni on November 08, 2023, 05:56:02 PM
They are despicable individuals who went on a murderous spree, attacking innocent men, women, and children, including Arab Muslims working there. They assaulted girls and children, severing their heads with shovels, all while taking The Almighty's name in vain. Some even seemed to become aroused and exhilarated by their actions. They are even worse than Nazis. These braggadocios proceeded to broadcast their actions live. Consequently, they are bound for destruction, along with the indiscriminate murderers launching "precision" missiles. Again, as the saying goes, 'birds of a feather' they'll burn together.

According to the Quran, one innocent Jewish life is equivalent to millions of Palestinian lives, and one innocent Palestinian life is worth millions of Jewish lives (5:32).

yes, but where do they come from, if we see there will some religious leader imparting fundamental ideas. its better for Palestenians or anyone not to believe people with masks to give a message or preach, who cannot open their face in public,there will be enemies faking or lacks truth and openness. Those areas people are ever fighting for supremacy for millennia, even withing the same religion, they fall for false stories easily.

Life is about sharing, loving one other, all of this world is ours and blessed in some way, if we cant recognize these, it looks we are lacking the support of God.

Sarah

Quote from: shukri on November 08, 2023, 02:11:38 AM
And the spontaneous "inhumane/cruel action" can happen to anybody, even to the "chosen one" ...
28:15 And he entered the city unexpectedly, without being noticed by the people. He found in it two men who were fighting, one was from his clan, and the other was from that of his enemy. So the one who was from his clan called on him for help against his enemy, whereby Moses punched him, killing him. He said: "This is from the work of the devil; he is an enemy that clearly misleads."

Notes:
I fear/hate no one, please don't mistaken me!
I'm just support the people who has been depressed for seven decades
And i salute the one who is brave enough to fight the evil regime!
That's all.

May God bless you, Hamas!
Thank you
So long!

It's not spontaneous, it's hate and revenge from both sides. It's their test and so far neither are doing well with killing innocents.
'These are the verses of Allah which We recite to you in truth. Then in what statement (hadith) after Allah and His verses will they believe? (45:6)'

shukri

Quote from: Sarah on November 08, 2023, 11:10:34 PM
Face it, Hamas are not the pure freedom fighters some people imagine them to be. They have let their egos get the best of them.

Yes, you are very true
Only Fatah (not Hamas) is a pure freedom fighters without/less ego
So you should be with Fatah to fight for Palestinian people
And let the Palestinian land disappear from the world map forever!

A good alternative, i guess!


"My Lord, pardon me if I have forgotten or erred"

Jafar

Quote from: shukri on November 08, 2023, 10:47:20 PM
I just want to flow my "anger" through you and Yoda!
"And I hope it's okay, my friend!" ;D

I do not hate you (or anyone for that matter).

Yes as mentioned "anger" give you strength.
And you'll have guidance that shall enable you to be more powerful.


Quote from: shukri on November 08, 2023, 10:47:20 PM
But it's merely a slogan for those who live in "Fantasy Island"
Like you and your friend, Yoda!
This slogan doesn't work on this planet
Definitely.. people like Jesus, Siddhartha, Lao Tse, Yoda will not resonate well with you.. they're all liars...



Quote from: shukri on November 08, 2023, 10:47:20 PM
And let the Palestinian land disappear from the world map forever!

Yes all form of social / national / religious identities will eventually disappear.. will only exist in history, which then become legend and then forgotten. We already have many example for that, Kemet, Sumer, Roman Empire, Caliphates, Ottoman..
Everything that has a beginning will have an end.


shukri

My friends Jafar and Yoda,

26:224 And the poets, are followed by the strayers.
26:225 Do you not see that they traverse in every valley.
26:226 And that what they say, is not what they do!
26:227 Except for those who believe, and do good works, and remember God greatly, and were victorious after they were wronged. As for those who did wrong, they will know which fate they will meet.

I hope you, Yoda, Siddhartha, and Lao Tse are among the blessed people mentioned in verse 26:227 i.e. who believe, and do good works, and remember God greatly. You are a great man, my friends!

May God bless all of us!
Terima kasih.
"My Lord, pardon me if I have forgotten or erred"

good logic

O insignificant  human when are you going to realise that you are all one race!
A friendly warning or good news?
We all come from one male and one female.
All entitled to live here on earth. One precious life given to every individual
You are one big and diverse family . Brothers and sisters sharing GOD s earth.

Your instinct o human tells you there are morals and love built in your heart if you search deep within you.
Why don t each one of us reflect and learn? Does anyone want to learn?

1- do to others ,your brothers and sisters the humans what you would like to be done to you.
2- Hurting, hating,oppressing/ wishing bad...one anyone is hurting your own self and family.
3-Where is knowledge and civilisation taking us? To better or worse?
4- Think and define war, hate and arrogance? then define love, cooperation and friendship? Which leads to a better life?

Or perhaps you think if you heed the warning and lead a righteous life it will make no difference to the world and the state it is in?
It will make a lot of difference at least as an example to your brother and sister who might follow you?
Then ignore the pressure to go against your instinct and do not follow the way to your loss and demise.
Choose peace, no more war.
GOD bless you all.
Peace.
TOTAL LOYALTY TO GOD ALONE.   IN GOD I TRUST
38:65″ Say:? I warn you; There is no other god beside GOD, the One, the Supreme.?
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good logic

Brothers and sisters, I will leave you with a word from an Israeli  who wants you to exchange yourself with another human you deem to be your worst enemy- In his case a Palestinian.:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnaacT4eBrA

May the Lord unite us in peace.
GOD bless you all.
Peace.
TOTAL LOYALTY TO GOD ALONE.   IN GOD I TRUST
38:65″ Say:? I warn you; There is no other god beside GOD, the One, the Supreme.?
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Jafar

Quote from: shukri on November 09, 2023, 08:37:24 PM
I hope you, Yoda, Siddhartha, and Lao Tse are among the blessed people mentioned in verse 26:227 i.e. who believe, and do good works, and remember God greatly. You are a great man, my friends!

Well Lao Tse are among those few who do NOT believe and do NOT ask others to believe.
He recommend one to 'experience' it themselves.. thus they will KNOW and NOT BELIEVE.
How ?

Let the Tao be present in your life
and you will become genuine.
Let it be Present in your family
and your family will flourish.
Let it be present in your country
and your country will be an example
to all countries in the world.
Let it be present in the universe
and the universe will sing.

How do I know this is true?
by looking inside myself."

-- Lao Tse

Siddhartha, Jesus, Rumi, Alan Watts, Tolle, Sadhguru, Walsch, are few example who hold similar view..  the best direction to look for the divine is to look inside... do not believe.... but seek... then you will know and not believe.
Once you found it... what and how do you name it?
Choose any name that you like... as name is merely label and doesn't matter..

"The name that can be named is not the eternal name. The Nameless is the origin of Heaven and Earth; "
-- Lao Tse

Now about 'blessing', the universe operates like a 'mirror'.. this is called the 'mirror principle'..
What goes around shall came around...

If one want to be blessed... send out blessing...
Forgiven... forgive others...
Love.. love others...

The same is true if you send out 'negative emotion'.. Hatred, Fear, Anger.. those emotion shall also came around back to you...

shukri

Quote from: Jafar on November 10, 2023, 05:14:05 PM
Let the Tao be present in your life
and you will become genuine.
Let it be Present in your family
and your family will flourish.
Let it be present in your country
and your country will be an example
to all countries in the world.
Let it be present in the universe
and the universe will sing.

I hope someday, the magic "Tao" will be in every soul and make our universe "sing" like paradise
No more suffering, no more conflict and no more war!
Let's pray for it to come true

Thanks Yoda, you are great! :angel:
"My Lord, pardon me if I have forgotten or erred"

hawk99

Quote from: shukri on November 10, 2023, 06:17:12 PM
I hope someday, the magic "Tao" will be in every soul and make our universe "sing" like paradise
No more suffering, no more conflict and no more war!
Let's pray for it to come true

Thanks Yoda, you are great! :angel:

Peace,  shukri

     Negativity is not going anywhere my brother, to think otherwise is wishful thinking.  The jinn-devils who hold power will not have it any other way.  The magic of Tao will not resonate with the jinn devils nor with the human devils.  Suffering will be a human condition until judgement day.  Look at the verses about the jinn for clarity.
     Taoism exists in China, one of the most powerful nations in the world, they are not protected by spirituality but by terrain, the wall and a military.

God bless you

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