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How can we see the Palestine- Israel conflict from a Qur'an alone perspective

Started by Sarah, October 25, 2023, 02:28:15 PM

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l-nuni

63% of Israelis identify as atheists while majority of Europe is in the high 70s. The idea of hijacking Judaism and turning it into a form of national idolatry, as seen in Zionism, is a relatively recent development in the history of various 'isms' which emerged alongside other ideologies like communism, fascism, and Nazism.

Meanwhile, Netanyahu appeals to his religious constituents citing passages from the Bible, such as 1 Samuel 15, which describes the destruction of the Amalekites, to support his policies and justify actions involving the killing of innocent women and children. This pattern is similar to the tactics used by other extremist groups, such as Hamas, various factions supported by Iran, and others. It perpetuates an ongoing quagmire, exacerbating the issue and leading to widespread destruction and corruption (2:11). Hence, they are like 'birds of a feather' and flock together.

Sarah

Peace

I think no true Muslim can ever be on Hamas's side. They are terrorists, unfortunately. Religion is involved from both sides. It's not just over land.

On top of killing innocent Jews, Hamas even killed an innocent Christian lady in the most brutal way because they thought she was a Jew. They hate Jews just for being Jews which is WRONG considering a lot of Jews do not even want war with Palestine. Even hateful Jewish civilians should not be murdered. It's wrong.

Look at this video from a lady who was butchered by Hamas but survived in 2010:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSaY4k2CEZo

Hateful hadith against Jews have obviously influenced Hamas.

'These are the verses of Allah which We recite to you in truth. Then in what statement (hadith) after Allah and His verses will they believe? (45:6)'

Sarah

'These are the verses of Allah which We recite to you in truth. Then in what statement (hadith) after Allah and His verses will they believe? (45:6)'

shukri

Quote from: shukri on November 04, 2023, 07:29:18 AM
100:6 Surely, the human being is unappreciative to his Lord.
100:7 He will indeed bear witness to this.
100:8 He loves wealth (الخَيرِ) tenaciously.

Who are the people intended by these verses?
Palestinian, Israeli or both of them?
I leave it to you!

Please surf the link below to see the reasons behind the conflict that trigger the attack on 7/10/2023:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/5/18/mapping-israeli-occupation-gaza-palestine
(Thirteen maps explain how Israel's military control over the Palestinian people affects every aspect of their lives ... and these are the bottom line or the root cause of the conflict between Palestine and Israel)

My Questions:
(1) If you are a palestinian who lives in Gaza what is your reaction to these zionists aggression and their inhumane approach to your land/community?
(2) If you as a community of the world which uphold justice, dignity and freedom; what should you do or what is your stance on this zionist behaviour on palestinians?
(3) Is the attack by palestinian's Hamas on 7/10/2023 against Quranic teaching?

Any Quran alone follower is welcome to comment
And bring the Quranic verses, if any!
I'm still learning!

Thank you.


"My Lord, pardon me if I have forgotten or erred"

hawk99

Peace

Peace between two has to be committed with good intentions, but an unwelcome intruder presents an obstacle that makes peace difficult.

al-Anfal (The Spoils of War)
Qur'an 8:61And if they incline to peace, then incline to it [also] and rely upon Allah. Indeed, it is He who is the Hearing, the Knowing.

    The conflict with the Meccans was ultimately resolved by negotiations and a treaty. 

However, in the case of the present-day conflict in Palestine an unwanted guest or intruder will create conflict until the intruder desires concessions and resolutions.

God bless you

                                                  :peace:
The secret to monotheism can be found in the garden

Jafar

Mahmuod Abbas: Hamas does not represent Palestinians
https://report.az/en/other-countries/mahmoud-abbas-hamas-does-not-represent-palestinians/

The Sunni Religious Fanatics Hamas is partly funded by Israeli Religious and Ultra Nationalist Fanatics as stated by Netanyahu and quoted on previous post.
Right wing Palestinians and Right wing Israelites..
Both sides doesn't really care about common people...  they don't hesitate to murder and sacrifice their own people.
Many Puppets serving the same Master...  embarking on the scenario of doom, for themselves.

Now I quote Bob Marley..

good logic

Peace brother shukri.

Trust in GOD . GOD is aware of those who believe and do good and those who do Fassad/Crimes on earth.
God is with the righteous wherever they are and whoever they are. God does not brake His promise.

Righteousness is not turning your faces towards the east or the west. Righteous are those who believe in God, the Last Day- accountability-, the angels, the scripture, and the prophets; and they give cheerfully, to the relatives, the orphans, the needy, the traveling alien, the beggars, and to free the slaves; and they observe the Salat and give the Zakat; and they keep their word whenever they make a promise; and they steadfastly persevere in the face of persecution, hardship, and war. These are the truthful; these are the righteous.

Anger can be overcome by meditation and dhikr. Anger and hate can harm us spiritually and affect our health.
Of course  one needs to fight for their rights ,but against a strong power one needs to also seek God s help and support and be patient. God is the most powerful .

Persecution and hardship can also be a blessing in disguise. GOD can easily put out the fire of war ignited by the strongest oppressors.
Evil is requited by the same. They will  only end up destroying  themselves.
May the Lord bless you and help all the oppressed and persecuted. .
Peace. 
TOTAL LOYALTY TO GOD ALONE.   IN GOD I TRUST
38:65″ Say:? I warn you; There is no other god beside GOD, the One, the Supreme.?
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shukri

Quote from: good logic on November 06, 2023, 04:23:51 PM
Peace brother shukri.

Trust in GOD . GOD is aware of those who believe and do good and those who do Fassad/Crimes on earth.
God is with the righteous wherever they are and whoever they are. God does not brake His promise.

Righteousness is not turning your faces towards the east or the west ....

57:22 Anything that happens on earth, or to you, has already been recorded, even before the creation. This is easy for God to do.
57:23 Thus, you should not grieve over anything you miss, nor be proud of anything He has bestowed upon you. God does not love those who are boastful, proud.

AND
2:251 They defeated them by God's leave, and David killed Goliath. God gave him kingship and wisdom, and taught him as He willed. If it were not for God's support of some people against others, there would be chaos on earth. But God showers His grace upon the people.

Free Palestine!
Thanks.
"My Lord, pardon me if I have forgotten or erred"


good logic

Who does not get angry, frustrated? The human ego is leading the systems and the subjects to wars and wickedness.
Each one of us is as guilty as the other while our ego is in charge. instead of listening to our deeper instinct and follow our creator s advice,

Ego does not want to loose the self war.It has no intention of repenting to the creator. It does not want accountability and correction:
But going back to accountability must happen:

"You shall seek your Lord's forgiveness, then repent to Him. He will then bless you generously for a predetermined period, and bestow His grace upon those who deserve it. If you turn away, then I fear for you the retribution of an awesome day."
وَأَنِ استَغفِروا رَبَّكُم ثُمَّ توبوا إِلَيهِ يُمَتِّعكُم مَتٰعًا حَسَنًا إِلىٰ أَجَلٍ مُسَمًّى وَيُؤتِ كُلَّ ذى فَضلٍ فَضلَهُ وَإِن تَوَلَّوا فَإِنّى أَخافُ عَلَيكُم عَذابَ يَومٍ كَبيرٍ
To God is your ultimate return, and He is Omnipotent.
إِلَى اللَّهِ مَرجِعُكُم وَهُوَ عَلىٰ كُلِّ شَىءٍ قَديرٌ

Indeed, they hide their innermost thoughts ( agendas,wickedness,bad intentions...), as if to keep Him from knowing them. In fact, as they cover themselves with their clothes ( They can never cover their crimes from GOD!), He knows all their secrets and declarations. He knows the innermost thoughts.
أَلا إِنَّهُم يَثنونَ صُدورَهُم لِيَستَخفوا مِنهُ أَلا حينَ يَستَغشونَ ثِيابَهُم يَعلَمُ ما يُسِرّونَ وَما يُعلِنونَ إِنَّهُ عَليمٌ بِذاتِ الصُّدورِ

:The only beneficial war is the one against the ego. Each one should only fight their own ego. That is the only solution and aim .Even this necessary war against the ego should be only done peacefully and with high intellect not with anger and destruction to our own spirit.

Any way let us at least  ( Those who want to/are aware of returning to their Lord).) put our trust in God, our Lord and every one else s Lord. There is not a creature that He does not control.
Our  Lord  invites everyone to the right path for their own good and protection.
GOD bless you all.
Peace..
TOTAL LOYALTY TO GOD ALONE.   IN GOD I TRUST
38:65″ Say:? I warn you; There is no other god beside GOD, the One, the Supreme.?
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