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How can we see the Palestine- Israel conflict from a Qur'an alone perspective

Started by Sarah, October 25, 2023, 02:28:15 PM

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Jafar

Quote from: amin on November 01, 2023, 07:18:07 AM
Palestenians should elect a transparent govt and need a protection force that works for the people.

And so does the Israelites..

When both israelite and palestinian (or whatever nation such as Iranian, Saudis, American etc..) common folks realized that they're being duped by their politicians / religious dogma there will be no more threat and fear based control, and they realized that 'protection' is not even required.

The 'darkness' doesn't care about common folks, to them they're merely numbers, a lamb to be sacrificed, what they care about are control and power.

Please see how Campbell explained it in a well structured manner on "How Fear Resulted In Nations":
https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9612434.msg442145#msg442145

shukri

Quote from: shukri on November 01, 2023, 03:17:51 AM
David versus Goliath ?

My Prayers Are with You Palestine! :'(

Just fight for your justice, dignity and freedom!

In the name of God, the Almighty, the Merciful.
100:1 By the fast gallopers.
100:2 Striking sparks.
100:3 Charging at the dawn (7/10/2023)
100:4 Forming clouds of dust.
100:5 Penetrating to the midst together.

Note:
Verse 100:3 and the date of 7/10/2023 --> (1+0+0+3) + (7+1+0+2+0+2+3) = 19

May God bless you, Hamas!
At least, the whole world has opened their eyes on your struggle since 1948!
"My Lord, pardon me if I have forgotten or erred"

good logic

Brother shukri.
Hope you are fine.
Israel  speaking  about the bombing of Gazza:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RihPfMEBluI

GOD bless you.
Peace.
TOTAL LOYALTY TO GOD ALONE.   IN GOD I TRUST
38:65″ Say:? I warn you; There is no other god beside GOD, the One, the Supreme.?
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almarh0m

Salamun Alaykum

From Al-Qurán perspective? look no further than verses 9/97 and 9/101 . How many Arab/Muslim Countries in the region all sitting on their hands while their Brothers, sisters and cousins are Slaughtered by The Zionists ??? Real Muslims like Stance?

"He who Created me, it is He who Guides me"

shukri

Quote from: good logic on November 02, 2023, 01:33:05 PM
Brother shukri.
Hope you are fine.
Israel  speaking  about the bombing of Gazza:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RihPfMEBluI

GOD bless you.
Peace.

I'm very fine brother! :'(
AND thanks for the link.

Just for your information:
I think you still remember Mr Alban Fejza who claimed as God's Clarifying messenger
I just sent an email to him regarding the verses 100:1-5
Hopefully I can get his response if all these verses are relevant to the Palestine and Israel war.
I really want to hear something from him!

God bless you.
"My Lord, pardon me if I have forgotten or erred"

good logic

Brothers and sisters.
Why are we still discussing and debating sides? What side of the human race are we? Are we not all humans?
Stop for a minute  and reflect on our past history, are we going to learn?
It does not matter where we come from ,what race or place..
Today s society have integrated and will continue to integrate. Humans we all are and we all live together on GOD  s earth.

Are we going to learn to live with each other peacefully and as one GOD s congregation? Are we going to help and support one another and respect each other as brothers and sisters of the human race?

Let us learn our lesson from past generations about division, wars and oppression of other races and nations!

It is a no brainer to unite, love GOD and love each other . Does this need to be discussed/ debated still?

Forget the past and its traumas and let us create the future that heals the division and strife for all our brothers and sisters the humans.
Just stop  your hate, stop your wars, stop your divisions stop for a minute and reason with yourself,( you is all of us humans!!)

GOD s earth is all we have as a living planet ,we cannot send those we do not want here to live on another planet or get rid of every single " opponent", one diverse family of humans are just that . One race. one nation, one people who need each other and all deserve a go at this life on GOD s earth.
GOD bless you all.
Peace
TOTAL LOYALTY TO GOD ALONE.   IN GOD I TRUST
38:65″ Say:? I warn you; There is no other god beside GOD, the One, the Supreme.?
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shukri

Quote from: shukri on November 02, 2023, 03:12:32 AM

In the name of God, the Almighty, the Merciful.
100:1 By the fast gallopers.
100:2 Striking sparks.
100:3 Charging at the dawn (7/10/2023)
100:4 Forming clouds of dust.
100:5 Penetrating to the midst together.

Note:
Verse 100:3 and the date of 7/10/2023 --> (1+0+0+3) + (7+1+0+2+0+2+3) = 19

If the verses 100:1-5 are a true quranic prophecy regarding the attack of Palestinian to Israeli territory, we can simply know the reason behind this conflict. Please see the subsequent verses viz. 100:6-8

100:6 Surely, the human being is unappreciative to his Lord.
100:7 He will indeed bear witness to this.
100:8 He loves wealth (الخَيرِ) tenaciously.

Who are the people intended by these verses?
Palestinian, Israeli or both of them?
I leave it to you!

Ends
Just my take
Thank you.
"My Lord, pardon me if I have forgotten or erred"

Jafar

As mentioned the solution has been offered since many centuries ago, but nobody in the region took it.
Which can also can clearly be seen on this thread alone, it seems "fighting", "taking side" and "us vs them" and "hating and taking revenge against the enemy" (thus an enemy is always needed) is a much more interesting and appealing option.

For many centuries... somebody continuously laughing...


I've quoted Jesus and Lao Tse above, now I quote Siddhartha.
Again the same old message for solution... again nobody took it.. thus the same old game continues...






shukri

Quote from: Jafar on November 04, 2023, 04:03:05 PM
For many centuries... somebody continuously laughing...


I've quoted Jesus and Lao Tse above, now I quote Siddhartha.
Again the same old message for solution... again nobody took it.. thus the same old game continues...



I wish I could be like you or your iconic Lao Tse or Siddhartha
But I failed brother!
Sorry! :'(

My only hope:
Please pray for all of us on this planet to be like you, Jafar!
And we turn this miserable world to be like paradise!
Is it possible bro?

AQ 7:43 And We removed what was in their chests of hate; rivers will flow beneath them; and they will say: "Praise be to God who has guided us to this, and we would not have been guided unless God guided us. The messengers of our Lord had come with the truth." And it was called to them: "This is Paradise; you have inherited it for what you have done."

God bless you!
"My Lord, pardon me if I have forgotten or erred"

Jafar

QuoteAnd we turn this miserable world to be like paradise!
Is it possible bro?

For planet earth; it's not possible, it's definitely will be so.

Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth.
-- Jesus

It's the 'meek' not the 'proud', 'haughty' or 'haters'.

"I have 3 treasures which I hold fast and prize.
The first is gentleness; the second is frugality; the third is humility, which keeps me from putting myself above others.
Be gentle and you can be bold; be frugal and you can be free."

-- Lao Tze