Author Topic: How do you define Submission?  (Read 1358 times)

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Re: How do you define Submission?
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2022, 06:02:12 PM »
By the way brother, do you want to team up with me in business and make a buck or two? Like your priests and leaders of religions are doing!
 We will create a religious social media business to control others and tell them GOD has decreed this and call it Faithbook?

Faithbook the only social media that is divine.
Other social medias are not divine as such they are much inferior to Faithbook.

Upon signing up one need to declare that there is no social media other than Faithbook.
For those who do not disable their other social media account (such as the heathen facebook, instagram, twitter etc..) will be tortured for all eternity when they die. Because upon their death they will be questioned by angels, and the first question is "What is your social media?" Wrong answer to that question will lead to torture..

Moving on, since Faithbook is the only social media accepted by God, those who either refuse to sign up or still maintain their profile on other heathen social medias are deemed allowed to be murdered, their blood is halal. Because they're the enemy of God. And fighting for God which means fighting for the superiority of the one true divine social media approved by God, that is Faithbook is a duty that one owe to God. Those who did so will earn the reward of 72 virgins (male or female virgin is available) in the after life. And those who did not will earn the wrath of God and be tortured for all eternity.


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Re: How do you define Submission?
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2022, 01:08:34 PM »
Jesus was a polytheist.

You overlooked the verses he claimed He was God and will be the one to judge mankind.

Deen is attitude / opinion / perception.
Deen of islam (totally different than religion of Islam) are best expressed on a statement that can be found in the Gospel.
"Our Father, Let Your will be done, on earth as it's in heaven".

Thus the reason why Jesus is a muslim, those who show / expressed / practice the attitude of islam.
Jesus did not believe in the Quran, member of Islam religion, perform testimony to Muhammad nor encircling the Kabba yet he shows the attitude of "ACCEPTANCE", acceptance of our father's will. The father / source of everything.

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Re: How do you define Submission?
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2022, 01:15:58 PM »
Can any Arabic speaker define the words Deen and Madhab?

Deen can be translated as religion. Religion can include socioeconomic ways within it.

Madhhab is a course of conduct. Its root meaning is a pathway.

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Re: How do you define Submission?
« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2022, 01:59:38 PM »
Deen can be translated as religion. Religion can include socioeconomic ways within it.

Madhhab is a course of conduct. Its root meaning is a pathway.

Is there any single verse in Quran which in arabic has the exact word "madhab"?
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Re: How do you define Submission?
« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2022, 08:43:12 PM »
Jesus was a polytheist.

You overlooked the verses he claimed He was God and will be the one to judge mankind.


There are two polarity at play, it's the game of the universe, Light vs Dark, Jedi vs Sith.
Yet it requires both to dance, the dark is unknowingly and unintentionally helping the light to shine through.

As such the dark will offer it's own deen / perception which in opposition to the deen / perception offered by the light.
And you can find both in one bundle, named it Bible, Quran or whatever, both exist there.
Some named it as 'corruption' yet I named it as 'enhancement' by the dark.

The characteristic of the deen/perception offered by the dark usually are around 3 things: Pride (superiority), Power (control over others) and Hatred. While the the light offered the opposite of that.

Thus choose the one that resonate with you best.

This deen / perception:
"Our Father, Let Your will be done, on earth as it's in heaven".
Resonate well with me and that is the core characteristic for the deen of islam. (totally different than the Religion of Islam where Pride, Power and Hatred can easily be found)

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Re: How do you define Submission?
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2022, 07:49:54 PM »
To Shah Khan, from the name i hope you understand the language,

Worth listening.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6JLUdIYzE8

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Even in this video, Allamah Ghulam Ahmad Parvez (may God be pleased with him) says Deen means a political or Social system and mazhab means a religion. Islam is not a religion (mazhab), Islam is a System (Deen).

In another video he explains more:

1. Religion focus on individual success but a Social system focus on collective success.
2. Religion focus on rituals and worship but a Social system focus on the system in which everyone can live happily.
3. In deen (social system) ritual itself is not the focus but the focus is the outcome from the ritual that will build the society.

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Re: How do you define Submission?
« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2022, 03:26:26 AM »
Peace All.

A perfect system needs perfect knowledge of everything.
Hence, only GOD can possess such a system. GOD and all the  laws are one unit. GOD s laws-Science- is based on perfect knowledge, including  where,how and what to create. Once anything is created, the laws will be set and the outcome is decreed with full knowledge and a perfect system.

Now in this ,Islam is accepting that  this is   always the case and the only way.. i.e Submission of all creations to GOD s perfect system.

Islam is "with" GOD. GOD Alone has the authority and the means to do everything.

If one accepts any other system, there will be flaws in it. There is no existence without a system.

Who can offer a better system than the one who has all the power and all the knowledge?

GOD bless you all.
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Re: How do you define Submission?
« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2022, 10:13:55 PM »
It can defined this way, whats not submission and whats submission,

I act on my own free will, no control no effect on what so ever with others, so theres no duty for me to serve others around me. Not submit. I am hiding the truth.

I act but it comes under His will, I call Him God/Allah, i submit to Him the total submission, its my duty to serve for the blessings i get in return. Peace of mind.

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Re: How do you define Submission?
« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2022, 07:12:27 AM »
Peace amin.

You acting on your free will and hiding the true submission to your creator is submitting unwillingly to him because you still have to live here on earth as a human with some constraints . You cannot change where and when you start your life.

Then one has to submit to another system of man or to your own desires and choices with your limited knowledge. i.e you are submitting to a lesser being with a lesser knowledge.

In other words the only logical and better way is to submit wholly and willingly to the creator.
GOD bless you.
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Re: How do you define Submission?
« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2022, 10:25:50 PM »
"You" ,in my last post does not mean !you brother amin". It is general to any of us humans.
If we ponder in our day to day living and the choices we are making, the best choice for success is to submit to the lord of the universe by following His laws ,instructions and commands as best as we understand them from His message.
Or submit to our own system/s whatever we think is right for us besides GOD s system,. This can lead to failure.
GOD bless you.
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