How do you define the following of Muhammad's footsteps?

[Fusion]

Brother GL, I want to express my gratitude for your thoughtful messages. I truly appreciate your respectful and dignified approach in engaging in this discussion. Your decency and modesty shine through, and I commend you for your willingness to engage in a debate with such self-respect.

In the Quran, Allah instructs us to obey Him and to obey the Messenger. By following the Quran, we are indeed obeying the message of Allah as conveyed by the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). The Sunnah and Hadith provide us with a deeper understanding of how the Prophet implemented and exemplified the teachings of the Quran in his own life. By following his example, we can strive to align our actions with the principles of the Quran.

It is important to note that not all Hadith are considered authentic, and scholars have developed methodologies to assess their reliability. The body of authentic Hadith helps us understand the Prophet's teachings accurately. However, it is also important to exercise caution and refer to trusted sources of Hadith scholarship to ensure that we are following reliable and authentic teachings.

Ultimately, the Quran holds the highest authority in matters of faith and practice, and studying and comprehending its teachings is indeed crucial. The Sunnah and Hadith provide us with practical guidance and examples from the Prophet's life, helping us to understand and implement the Quran's teachings effectively.

I hope this response clarifies the relationship between the Quran, Hadith, and the Sunnah of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). If you have any further questions or concerns, please feel free to ask. May peace and blessings be upon you as well.

[good logic]

Brother Fusion.

What you say here goes against what GOD says in Qoran, quote:

"n the Quran, Allah instructs us to obey Him and to obey the Messenger. By following the Quran, we are indeed obeying the message of Allah as conveyed by the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). The Sunnah and Hadith provide us with a deeper understanding of how the Prophet implemented and exemplified the teachings of the Quran in his own life. By following his example, we can strive to align our actions with the principles of the Quran."

WE cannot be following Qoran if we are looking for hadith and sunnah explanations besides Qoran or GOD s words are ignored completely here:
12:111
In their history, there is a lesson for those who possess intelligence. This is not fabricated Hadith; this (Qoran) confirms all previous scriptures, provides the details of everything, and is a beacon and mercy for those who believe.
لَقَد كانَ فى قَصَصِهِم عِبرَةٌ لِأُولِى الأَلبٰبِ ما كانَ حَديثًا يُفتَرىٰ وَلٰكِن تَصديقَ الَّذى بَينَ يَدَيهِ وَتَفصيلَ كُلِّ شَىءٍ وَهُدًى وَرَحمَةً لِقَومٍ يُؤمِنونَ

What other details/explanations can we possibly need? Which hadith provides the details of everything apart from GOD s book?:

Which Hadith*?
45:6-8
These are God's revelations that we recite to you truthfully. In which Hadith other than God and His revelations do they believe?
تِلكَ ءايٰتُ اللَّهِ نَتلوها عَلَيكَ بِالحَقِّ فَبِأَىِّ حَديثٍ بَعدَ اللَّهِ وَءايٰتِهِ يُؤمِنونَ
Woe to every fabricator, guilty.*
وَيلٌ لِكُلِّ أَفّاكٍ أَثيمٍ
The one who hears God's revelations recited to him, then insists arrogantly on his way, as if he never heard them. Promise him a painful retribution.
يَسمَعُ ءايٰتِ اللَّهِ تُتلىٰ عَلَيهِ ثُمَّ يُصِرُّ مُستَكبِرًا كَأَن لَم يَسمَعها فَبَشِّرهُ بِعَذابٍ أَليم

Look, GOD insists that there are those who uphold SOME  DIFFERENT HADTH OTHER THAN QORAN:
31:6-7
Among the people, there are those who uphold baseless Hadith, and thus divert others from the path of God without knowledge, and take it in vain. These have incurred a shameful retribution.
وَمِنَ النّاسِ مَن يَشتَرى لَهوَ الحَديثِ لِيُضِلَّ عَن سَبيلِ اللَّهِ بِغَيرِ عِلمٍ وَيَتَّخِذَها هُزُوًا أُولٰئِكَ لَهُم عَذابٌ مُهينٌ
And when our revelations are recited to the one of them, he turns away in arrogance as if he never heard them, as if his ears are deaf. Promise him a painful retribution.
وَإِذا تُتلىٰ عَلَيهِ ءايٰتُنا وَلّىٰ مُستَكبِرًا كَأَن لَم يَسمَعها كَأَنَّ فى أُذُنَيهِ وَقرًا فَبَشِّرهُ بِعَذابٍ أَليمٍ

Which Hadith other than GOD s revelations means there are no Hadiths to be followed ,only GOD s revelation is to be followed.

Brother Traditional Islam is a false religion ,never authorised by GOD. They make rules /laws  that are from authorities other than GOD . They have made themselves partners with GOD. Those who follow this false religionwith its Hadiths and sunnah are mentioned here:
42:21:
They follow idols who decree for them religious laws never authorized by God. If it were not for the predetermined decision, they would have been judged immediately. Indeed, the transgressors have incurred a painful retribution.*
أَم لَهُم شُرَكٰؤُا۟ شَرَعوا لَهُم مِنَ الدّينِ ما لَم يَأذَن بِهِ اللَّهُ وَلَولا كَلِمَةُ الفَصلِ لَقُضِىَ بَينَهُم وَإِنَّ الظّٰلِمينَ لَهُم عَذابٌ أَليمٌ

The Islam of just after the prophet and of today's Muslim world has been so distorted, it has become a Satanic cult. The Ulama, or religious scholars, have added many extraneous laws, prohibitions, dress codes, dietary regulations, and religious practices never authorized by GOD.
GOD bless you.
Peace.

[jkhan]

Peace everyone...

One of my friends is asking " is your door closed for sunna?"  simple answer is Yes... For truth always my door open but not FALSEHOOD...once convinced a matter is falsehood and no more compromise... Why is called a Muslim in general? coz he rejects obvious idol worship and accept God alone.. That's final.   If anyone asks, is your door closed for other gods?  Then if not say Yes.. What else..
Having said that..
Let me remind with below verse and ask an additional logical question..

We are most knowing of what they say, and you are not over them a tyrant. But remind by the Qur'an whoever fears My threat.

Okay we are also reminding with Quran coz isn't it duty of one who believes to remind with God's book...fine..

My question is...

If obey Allah and obey the Messenger led you my fellow hadith followers to take hadith books as source of law since obey messenger in your convictions is following sunnah of Prophet Mohamed .  That's how God let you perceive... So you follow hadith books of your choice where written alleged sunna .. Fine...
If Obey Messenger is Sunna and you follow Hadith book/s,  then where is the instruction from God to follow Quran in the same phrase?  Does Obey Allah and obey the Messenger phrase command you to follow Quran?  Anyones logical answer will be comprehensively and logically with truth God willing be replied... Anyones illogical and nonsensical answers will be deliberately avoided and I have presented my mindset clearly here.. 
All I do is to expose the extreme truth of the lease obey Allah and obey the Messenger...

Thank you

My above question still stands..

......

Salam...

Let me bring you a wonderful verse my fellow people who follow hadith for you to without prejudice to reflect upon..

Before that let me explain simple example.. If I say to person A.. "Worship God alone and He is your Master" and listening to it if he worshiped God alone.. Then does it mean he obey me? Hmmm... It sounds so.. But in reality he not obeyed me.. But he obeyed God.. Coz what I told him is message /  Command of God, so following my instructions which was truth  of God resulted in obeying God. There is nothing other than obeying God.

4:58 "Indeed, Allah commands you to render trusts to whom they are due and when you judge between people to judge with justice. Excellent is that which Allah instructs you. Indeed, Allah is ever Hearing and Seeing.."

4:59 "O you who have believed, obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority among you. And if you disagree/differ over anything, refer it to Allah and the Messenger, if you should believe in Allah and the Last Day. That is the best [way] and best in result."

Let me clarify... OBEY ALLAH (always always always and no one else to obey but God,  how by obeying his message)

OBEY THE MESSENGER (null and void after message is fulfilled coz no messenger exists to Obey)

On that note, above two glaring verses in fact proves that Obey Allah is only what it matters and the phrase OBEY ALLAH AND OBEY THE MESSENGER  is valid only until the messenger completes God's message.. We are not a community who lives in a period to stand with above two excellent verses.. The reason I say with logic is that messenger is no more..  Is he? But message is.. Isn't it?
4:58 God says to those living people in Authority to judge with justice.. Had they judged with justice then those in authority OBEYED Allah.. Any doubt? So no dispute,  no disagreement..

4:59  states obey Allah and obey the Messenger and in Authority  .. But people have given option.. Yes.. If you disagree / differ  ... Why differ?  Believers  can only differ if those in authority not judged with justice.. So they in authority disobeyed Allah.. Then people under them no need to be silent coz  it is manifest according to verses of God Those in authority didn't judge with justice... So.. What believers have to do?  Yes. Excellent is what Allah has explained  ..if you differ over anything refer it to ALLAH.. How to refer it to Allah?  No way.. Unless a the Messenger of Allah is living and still delivering God's messages. So approach him (person Mohamed)  and tell there is injustice under these authorities coz they didn't obey God / They didn't follow the message while judging... Yes.. What's next step.. If the matter is something that is already in the message then messenger can point out by the message to the people and also in authority... So dispute solved.. But if the matter is not existing in the messages already revealed, the Messenger has to wait until God reveal to solve the issue  . That's why God says refer it to Allah..  So once the message is revealed let everyone follow what is revealed.. And let those in Authority obey... When those in authority has obeyed God's message and judged accordingly,  there cannot have any disagreement among believers unless believers disobey..

Yes.. That's the cream and essence which I comprehend..

Now.. No authority who who are believers and Law of God is executed in any country you live and on top of that there is no living Messenger to refer in order to refer it to Allah...
What is left with us is Quran... Refer it you will find answers.. But you can't disagree with those in authority coz they already have disobeyed God..

So in a nutshell obey Allah and messenger is in fact a valid phrase only while messenger was living and delivering God's message...
Now all you have to obey is Allah by being His message ..

Any constructive rejection to above is much welcome and I would in sha Allah happily respond... I will definitely disregard all irrelevant and illogical answers though.

Thank you for reading.. But reflect.. Exert some effort..

[Fusion]

It is crucial to note that the phrase "obey Allah and obey the Messenger" is not limited to the time when the Messenger was alive. The Messenger, Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), was chosen by Allah to deliver His message and provide guidance to the believers.

The Quran emphasizes the importance of following the Messenger, not just during his lifetime but also as a means to follow the message of Allah. The Messenger's actions and teachings, known as the Sunnah, offer practical examples and explanations of how to implement the Quran's principles in our lives.

The verse you mentioned, 4:58, instructs believers to render trusts to whom they are due and to judge with justice. By doing so, they are indeed obeying Allah's command. However, this does not negate the importance of obeying the Messenger, as he was appointed by Allah to convey His message and provide guidance to the believers.

Similarly, verse 4:59 emphasizes the importance of obeying Allah and the Messenger. It also instructs believers to refer to Allah and the Messenger if they disagree or differ on any matter. This indicates that the Messenger's role in providing guidance and clarification extends beyond his lifetime.

While it is true that the Messenger is no longer with us in physical form, his teachings and the recorded Sunnah provide us with a valuable source of guidance. Through studying the authentic Hadith, we can understand how the Messenger implemented the Quran's teachings and apply them to our lives.

However, I understand your concern about baseless Hadith and the potential for deviation from the true message of Islam. It is true that there are fabricated and false Hadith that have been attributed to the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). As responsible Muslims, we should exercise caution and rely on trusted scholarship to authenticate the teachings and sayings of the Prophet.

While it is unfortunate that some individuals may have added extraneous laws and practices not authorized by God, it is essential to recognize that this does not encompass the entirety of the Islamic faith or all Muslims. It is incumbent upon us to study the Quran, rely on authentic Hadith, and seek guidance from knowledgeable scholars who adhere to the true teachings of Islam.

I appreciate your willingness to engage in this discussion, and I welcome any further constructive dialogue on this topic. Let us strive to seek knowledge and understanding together.

Thank you for your time and consideration.

Note: I would like to clarify that I do not associate myself with any specific label or categorization such as "Quranist" or "hadith follower." As Muslims, we are all united in our submission to the will of God. It is important to remember that God alone knows what is in our hearts, and it is not our place to impose our interpretations or labels on others.

Let us focus on seeking a deeper understanding of our faith and engaging in respectful dialogue, rather than getting caught up in divisive labels. Our goal should be to enhance our relationship with God and strive for unity among the Muslim community

I am inclined towards the following interpretations, as God message is universal

58          In order to establish the Quranic System, it is necessary to entrust responsibility to those who are capable of discharging it. All matters should be decided justly. This is excellent counsel which Allah is giving you for Allah hears and sees all.

59          O Jama'at-ul-Momineen you should obey the System established by the Rasool in accordance with Allah's Laws, and obey the local authorities appointed by this Order. In case of a dispute with the local officers, an appeal can be made to the Order (the Central Government). This will constitute evidence that you believe in Allah and the Hereafter. This is the best and fairest way to reach a settlement.

[good logic]

Finally, this is what Qoran is saying to us about the messenger -prophet Muhammed-

Delivering the Quran was such a momentous and noble mission that the Prophet did not have any time to do anything else. Moreover, the Prophet was enjoined in the strongest words from issuing any religious teachings besides the Quran (69:38-49):

I swear by what you see.
فَلا أُقسِمُ بِما تُبصِرونَ
And what you do not see.
وَما لا تُبصِرونَ
This is the utterance of an honorable messenger.
إِنَّهُ لَقَولُ رَسولٍ كَريمٍ
Not the utterance of a poet; rarely do you believe.
وَما هُوَ بِقَولِ شاعِرٍ قَليلًا ما تُؤمِنونَ
Nor the utterance of a soothsayer; rarely do you take heed.
وَلا بِقَولِ كاهِنٍ قَليلًا ما تَذَكَّرونَ
A revelation from the Lord of the universe.
تَنزيلٌ مِن رَبِّ العٰلَمينَ

Had he uttered any other teachings.
وَلَو تَقَوَّلَ عَلَينا بَعضَ الأَقاويلِ
We would have punished him.
لَأَخَذنا مِنهُ بِاليَمينِ
We would have stopped the revelations to him.
ثُمَّ لَقَطَعنا مِنهُ الوَتينَ
None of you could have helped him.
فَما مِنكُم مِن أَحَدٍ عَنهُ حٰجِزينَ
This is a reminder for the righteous.
وَإِنَّهُ لَتَذكِرَةٌ لِلمُتَّقينَ
We know; some of you are rejectors.
وَإِنّا لَنَعلَمُ أَنَّ مِنكُم مُكَذِّبينَ

. He was even enjoined from explaining the Quran (75:15-19) - :

Do not move your tongue to hasten it.
لا تُحَرِّك بِهِ لِسانَكَ لِتَعجَلَ بِهِ
It is we who will collect it into Qoran.
إِنَّ عَلَينا جَمعَهُ وَقُرءانَهُ
Once we recite it, you shall follow such a Qoran.
فَإِذا قَرَأنٰهُ فَاتَّبِع قُرءانَهُ
Then it is we who will explain it.
ثُمَّ إِنَّ عَلَينا بَيانَهُ

God is the only teacher of the Quran (55:1-2)
:
The Most Gracious.
الرَّحمٰنُ
Teacher of the Quran.
عَلَّمَ القُرءانَ

And the Quran is the best Hadith (39:23 & 45:6):

GPD has revealed herein the best Hadith; a book that is consistent, and points out both ways (to Heaven and Hell). The skins of those who reverence their Lord cringe therefrom, then their skins and their hearts soften up for God's message. Such is God's guidance; He bestows it upon whoever wills (to be guided). As for those sent astray by God, nothing can guide them.
اللَّهُ نَزَّلَ أَحسَنَ الحَديثِ كِتٰبًا مُتَشٰبِهًا مَثانِىَ تَقشَعِرُّ مِنهُ جُلودُ الَّذينَ يَخشَونَ رَبَّهُم ثُمَّ تَلينُ جُلودُهُم وَقُلوبُهُم إِلىٰ ذِكرِ اللَّهِ ذٰلِكَ هُدَى اللَّهِ يَهدى بِهِ مَن يَشاءُ وَمَن يُضلِلِ اللَّهُ فَما لَهُ مِن هادٍ
.
These are God's revelations that we recite to you truthfully. In which Hadith other than God and His revelations do they believe?
تِلكَ ءايٰتُ اللَّهِ نَتلوها عَلَيكَ بِالحَقِّ فَبِأَىِّ حَديثٍ بَعدَ اللَّهِ وَءايٰتِهِ يُؤمِنونَ
Woe to every fabricator, guilty.*

These Quranic facts are manifested in the historical reality that the words and actions (Hadith & Sunna) attributed to the Prophet did not appear until the second century after his death. The Quran has prophesied the fabrication of Hadith and Sunna by the Prophet's enemies (6:112-115).

We have permitted the enemies of every prophet - human and jinn devils - to inspire in each other fancy words, in order to deceive. Had your Lord willed, they would not have done it. You shall disregard them and their fabrications.
وَكَذٰلِكَ جَعَلنا لِكُلِّ نَبِىٍّ عَدُوًّا شَيٰطينَ الإِنسِ وَالجِنِّ يوحى بَعضُهُم إِلىٰ بَعضٍ زُخرُفَ القَولِ غُرورًا وَلَو شاءَ رَبُّكَ ما فَعَلوهُ فَذَرهُم وَما يَفتَرونَ

This is to let the minds of those who do not believe in the Hereafter listen to such fabrications, and accept them, and thus expose their real convictions.*
وَلِتَصغىٰ إِلَيهِ أَفـِٔدَةُ الَّذينَ لا يُؤمِنونَ بِالـٔاخِرَةِ وَلِيَرضَوهُ وَلِيَقتَرِفوا ما هُم مُقتَرِفونَ

Qoran: Fully Detailed*

Shall I seek other than God as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this book fully detailed? Those who received the scripture recognize that it has been revealed from your Lord, truthfully. You shall not harbor any doubt.
أَفَغَيرَ اللَّهِ أَبتَغى حَكَمًا وَهُوَ الَّذى أَنزَلَ إِلَيكُمُ الكِتٰبَ مُفَصَّلًا وَالَّذينَ ءاتَينٰهُمُ الكِتٰبَ يَعلَمونَ أَنَّهُ مُنَزَّلٌ مِن رَبِّكَ بِالحَقِّ فَلا تَكونَنَّ مِنَ المُمتَرينَ
The word of your Lord is complete, in truth and justice. Nothing shall abrogate His words. He is the Hearer, the Omniscient.
وَتَمَّت كَلِمَتُ رَبِّكَ صِدقًا وَعَدلًا لا مُبَدِّلَ لِكَلِمٰتِهِ وَهُوَ السَّميعُ العَليمُ
If you obey the majority of people on earth, they will divert you from the path of God. They follow only conjecture; they only guess.
وَإِن تُطِع أَكثَرَ مَن فِى الأَرضِ يُضِلّوكَ عَن سَبيلِ اللَّهِ إِن يَتَّبِعونَ إِلَّا الظَّنَّ وَإِن هُم إِلّا يَخرُصونَ
Your Lord is fully aware of those who stray off His path, and He is fully aware of those who are guided.
إِنَّ رَبَّكَ هُوَ أَعلَمُ مَن يَضِلُّ عَن سَبيلِهِ وَهُوَ أَعلَمُ بِالمُهتَدينَ

The Quran teaches us that it was God's will to permit the invention of Hadith and Sunna to serve as criteria for exposing those who believe only with their lips,
Obey GOD and obey the messenger means obey GOD s revelations/message  Is this not clear in GOD s scripture/message?
GOD bless you all.
Peace.

[jkhan]

Obey GOD and obey the messenger means obey GOD s revelations/message  Is this not clear in GOD s scripture/message?

Peace brother GL..

In sha Allah God must be pleased with you coz you are exerting lot of effort to remind people with God's verses... Keep doing and don't get slacken and weaker..

Yes.. You understood, I understand and many a believers understand but unfortunately they will not understand who don't deserve understanding it... Coz guidance is so special and it can only be taught by the Author of the book..

There must be a reason why God said in Quran believers are affectionate with believers and very stiff with disbelievers... Two different traits for two type of people. Well.. That's sums up..

By the way some say don't debate with disbelievers... But I don't agree.. God gives wisdom to whom He wills and those wisdom is given is achieved abundance but non get admonition but who remember God.. So wisdom plays a role.  Why did Ibrahim debate with a king.. He said one thing and Ibrahim said another.  Until the disbeliever utterly checkmate Ibrahim debated. .. Why is to defeat him merely?  No.. But Ibrahim used the wisdom wirh God's  truth to explain truth.. So infront of truth, definitely  falsehood get exposed.  .thsts why some people in this forum doing Strawman argument.. Like can you move backward pawn in chess but these debaters think they can keep repeating the same thing .. Literally they move backward the chess pawn... Let them play their own chess.. Lol..  If checkmate accept the truth or expose you are a liar. That's worthy .... We don't want to compel anyone and never.. But debate is cross interrogating. Like Ibrahim did.. God Himself says king git checkmate and utterly defeated.. So defeating utterly with truth those who debate with falsehood has no harm at all.  But debate or discussion to learn a thing that both party has no idea is different. .. It can only happen between believers.. That's why I am different when debate with hadith followers or Chriatians who says Isa is God or with atheist.  Coz truth we have and if teuth cannot defeat falsehood, what else can defeat..?  But no compelling.  . But debate is debate. . Nk compromise...

[jkhan]

Salam...

Anyone who follows hadith can reflect and answer my below question, if you willing and if not willing reflect where you stand...

Question to you is. 

Your fundamental pilar of your type of Islam is five principles..
1.. Shahada.. 2.. Ritual Sala... 3.. Fasting.. 4... Zaka .. 5 Haj...

Well .. to perform all these five dogma or rather tenets, you have 100% clarifications in your Book of Bukhari, etc.. Right.. And on top of that you have numerous inspirational stories and some enigmatic tales.   Well plethora of info is comprised in hadith book coupled with some new ulama fatwas.. So most of practising sunni, remember I say practising Sunni Muslims life is 100% the book of bukhari is in blood not Quran at all.

So... Where do you apply in your life Quran and its teachings ? Where do you have an opportunity to apply Quran in life... Yeah.. I am kinda stupid asking this,  while your ulamas has taught you not apply Quran but follow hadith,  and you won't understand Quran and if you want to understand ask ulamas and learned scholars and don't interpret self .. Even you learned from ulamas but practice what mainstream practice.. So you are forbidden and entangled from all corners..

Well...  How can you apply Quran while Hadith has superseded all your actions and all the verses of Quran?  Am I right?
Or is Quran kind of an icon or rather an oracle or a symbol /idol through which your religion is safe and otherwise you won't have any base to call it a religion of Sunni.. Or Quran is something like fabulous music so recite it in a Rythm so followers of Sunni are feeling pleased and blown away.... So..  Do you think the Islam of Ibrahim and Islam of Sunni Muslims same?  Well. It takes only one word to say YES for you guys but unfortunately it won't be truth.. You are the biggest cult in the world ... Majority's destiny is so vulnerable..

But your ulamas say follow Quran and Hadith and Sunna... That's so controversial for me.. How can you say follow Quran and Hadith /Sunna while you don't follow Quran at all.. My house is just 50 meters away from Jumma masjid and I heard every Friday prayer from the beginning  to end preach hadith hadith hadith in an enticing manner..  Everyone who attend some fancy stories of hadith and in a hurry pray and run.. What happened to Quran O Sunnis? Why neglect it?

You think I am wrong  .. No no no.. We follow Quran also not only hadith.. That you assume.. Well then bring me an action in which your best Sunni Muslim follow Quran verses without demoralising its perfect meaning..?
Even you bring it or not, don't we know what Sunnis Muslims do..

So if call your religion is not a massive cult, then what else..? Is that what God wants when he sends Messengers with messages to be heralded for people to reflect and practice ?

[Fusion]

Assalamu Alaikum Jkhan,

I hope this message finds you in good health. I appreciate your willingness to engage in a discussion about Hadith and its role in the lives of Sunni Muslims. However, I kindly request that we maintain a respectful tone when discussing different perspectives and refrain from using derogatory terms to describe any religious community.

It is important to recognize that the diversity within the Muslim ummah encompasses a range of beliefs and practices. While it is true that Hadith holds a significant place in the lives of many Sunni Muslims, it is not accurate to say that it supersedes all actions and verses of the Quran. Sunni Muslims regard the Quran as the ultimate source of guidance and consider Hadith as a complementary tool to better understand its teachings within a historical and contextual framework.

Each individual approaches their faith in their own way, guided by their understanding of the Quran and the teachings of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). While some may rely more heavily on Hadith, it does not mean they disregard the Quran or its teachings. It is unfair to generalize and label the entire Sunni Muslim community as a cult or to question their commitment to the Quran.

In any religious community, it is crucial to focus on unity, understanding, and respectful dialogue. By recognizing and appreciating the diverse approaches to faith within the ummah, we can foster an environment of mutual respect and learning.

As for myself, I want to clarify that I am not a Sunni Muslim nor a blind follower of Hadith. However, I recognize the value of Hadith as a critical tool to analyze the historical and contextual background of the time. It is essential for us to engage in discussions that promote understanding and avoid generalizations that may perpetuate misunderstandings and divisions among Muslims.

I hope we can continue this conversation with respect and open-mindedness, appreciating the diverse perspectives within the Muslim ummah.

May peace and blessings be upon you.

[jkhan]

Assalamu Alaikum Jkhan,

I hope this message finds you in good health. I appreciate your willingness to engage in a discussion about Hadith and its role in the lives of Sunni Muslims. However, I kindly request that we maintain a respectful tone when discussing different perspectives and refrain from using derogatory terms to describe any religious community.

It is important to recognize that the diversity within the Muslim ummah encompasses a range of beliefs and practices. While it is true that Hadith holds a significant place in the lives of many Sunni Muslims, it is not accurate to say that it supersedes all actions and verses of the Quran. Sunni Muslims regard the Quran as the ultimate source of guidance and consider Hadith as a complementary tool to better understand its teachings within a historical and contextual framework.

Each individual approaches their faith in their own way, guided by their understanding of the Quran and the teachings of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). While some may rely more heavily on Hadith, it does not mean they disregard the Quran or its teachings. It is unfair to generalize and label the entire Sunni Muslim community as a cult or to question their commitment to the Quran.

In any religious community, it is crucial to focus on unity, understanding, and respectful dialogue. By recognizing and appreciating the diverse approaches to faith within the ummah, we can foster an environment of mutual respect and learning.

As for myself, I want to clarify that I am not a Sunni Muslim nor a blind follower of Hadith. However, I recognize the value of Hadith as a critical tool to analyze the historical and contextual background of the time. It is essential for us to engage in discussions that promote understanding and avoid generalizations that may perpetuate misunderstandings and divisions among Muslims.

I hope we can continue this conversation with respect and open-mindedness, appreciating the diverse perspectives within the Muslim ummah.

May peace and blessings be upon you.

Salam..

First of all you don't even know how to say greetings according to Quran and complete rejection of Quran's clear instructions... No point of debating with people like you.  Why I answered for this thread since some logical points to be clarified since you raised...

Look I have no time for hocus-pocus or rather mumbo-jumbo discussions with you like all your Hadith followers.. If God   cannot author a book and in it are manifest verses and fundamental for guidance then who can reveal a book that is more understanding than God's book..

Do you even realized the meaning of ULTIMATE and GUIDANCE before you write what you wrote.. Or your heart one thing and your words another...  Who needs if Quran is ULTIMATE GUIDANCE and another supplementary tool, other than who in astray. 

Don't talk on behalf all Sunni Muslims bro... If they call themselves they are Sunni then their is a reason written behind it.. If they call themselves Shiate then there is a ground why they say.. So.. You don't need come here make their faith into different perspectives...  I am talking about a group called sunni Muslims and their acceptances.. I am criticising with Quran so that minute number of people who are in such mainstream perhaps give a thought...  Like many a sunnis realized and took Quran alone since they knew there is nothing beyond God's book for guidance.. But you want run train on the track and on the road.. Just ridiculous..

Criticism hurts but if the crucism is constructive and thought provoking it is worthy getting hurt foe a while... Do you think when verses of Quran revealed and Mohamed went to children of Israel and reveal to them saying Jesus not son of God neither he was crucified... Do you think they would have loved to hear that... Yes it does hurt.. It was.. It hurts when loves something blindly and when truth is spoken.. Either get angry or reflect.. That's why God speaks truth leaving the emotions and feelings aside... Yes quran verses hurts all those who rejects them,  be it you or be they sunnis,  shia kafir christians jews or anyone it hurts if they discard the truth and take emotions above it...

You love mumbo-jumbo... That's  the truth...

If you are not Sunni Muslim then don't answer.. Coz I was talking to only Sunni Muslims or hadith followers  ..didn't Yiu read what I wrote... If you not blind follower then follower with intent the hadith. . All same...

[shukri]

It is important to recognize that the diversity within the Muslim ummah encompasses a range of beliefs and practices. While it is true that Hadith holds a significant place in the lives of many Sunni Muslims, it is not accurate to say that it supersedes all actions and verses of the Quran. Sunni Muslims regard the Quran as the ultimate source of guidance and consider Hadith as a complementary tool to better understand its teachings within a historical and contextual framework.

I see my sunni friends observing salat in silent mode for dhuhr and asr
Is this not contrary to verse 17:110?
17:110 Say, "Call Him God, or call Him Most Gracious; whichever name you use, to Him belongs the best names." You shall not utter your Contact Prayers (Salat) too loudly, nor secretly; use a moderate tone.

Also,
Dogs are categorized as unclean/najis by sunni
Do you think it is wrong since the Quran did not decree such a law
Can hadith supersede the Quran?

Just for a record
Thank you.