Is astral projection real

[Emre_1974tr]

Greetings,
I am really thankful to all of you, for making your statements and research in this discussion of Soul. As I said before am only learning through this website.
I would like to add one more thing, to get explanation of  the following verse , because God promises on this verse that Malika (or shall I say Heavenly forces?) descend on such a person who sas achieved such a height of faith. So natural question would be is this phenomenon physical or spiritual?
41:30 am only posting arabic, because there are many versions of translations.

إِنَّ ٱلَّذِينَ قَالُوا۟ رَبُّنَا ٱللَّهُ ثُمَّ ٱسْتَقَـٰمُوا۟ تَتَنَزَّلُ عَلَيْهِمُ ٱلْمَلَـٰٓئِكَةُ أَلَّا تَخَافُوا۟ وَلَا تَحْزَنُوا۟ وَأَبْشِرُوا۟
بِٱلْجَنَّةِ ٱلَّتِى كُنتُمْ تُوعَدُونَ

Of course it's physical. And he's talking about now, not in the apocalypse.

I repeat, angels, jinns, human beings...they are all physical and material. Even Paradise and hell are material.

The belief in an immaterial spirit world comes from satanic and perverted spiritism.

The verse you cited also talks about material angels supporting the good while they are still in the world. If you read the whole paragraph you can easily see the truth.

There are no spirits/souls, there are no ghosts.

By the way, we also see in the verses that the jinn have an advanced civilization, both underwater and space travel. They were created long before us and it is normal for them to be advanced in science and technology.

Peace

[hawk99]

Peace,

We live inside of our bodies, and you can call us what you like i.e., soul, spirit, etc., that is why we say "my" foot, my knee, my arm because our bodies belong and are separate from you name it soul, spirit, etc. When we dream our bodies does not accompany us. 

Peace

When the Qur'an mentions Iblis and his tribe can see you but you can't see him, are part of his tribe human too?

'O Children of Adam! Let not Satan seduce you as he caused your (first) parents to go forth from the Garden and tore off from them their robe (of innocence) that he might manifest their shame to them. Lo! he seeth you, he and his tribe, from whence ye see him not. Lo! We have made the devils protecting friends for those who believe not.' 7:27

The jinn are physical beings. you can't see them because they dwell inside of people, same for humans while Satan resides inside of both, that is why you have good jinn as well as good humans.  Satan is not some outside force that influences people but dwells inside of each of us who must be controlled.

God bless you
                                                                                         

[Fusion]

Of course it's physical. And he's talking about now, not in the apocalypse.

I repeat, angels, jinns, human beings...they are all physical and material. Even Paradise and hell are material.

The belief in an immaterial spirit world comes from satanic and perverted spiritism.

The verse you cited also talks about material angels supporting the good while they are still in the world. If you read the whole paragraph you can easily see the truth.

There are no spirits/souls, there are no ghosts.

By the way, we also see in the verses that the jinn have an advanced civilization, both underwater and space travel. They were created long before us and it is normal for them to be advanced in science and technology.

Peace

So basically all creations of God has got physical body in which case has there been any encounter recorded of humans communicating with other physical beings (angels/jinns)?

[Emre_1974tr]

So basically all creations of God has got physical body in which case has there been any encounter recorded of humans communicating with other physical beings (angels/jinns)?

I have even encountered it myself.

There are many claims of recordings, but many of them are fake.

There is also the fact that the jinns, the evil/satan ones, often disguise themselves as other beings. Sometimes they claim to be the spirit of so-and-so, sometimes they claim to be an alien or even a divine being. Their aim is usually to mislead people.

[Fusion]

I have even encountered it myself.

There are many claims of recordings, but many of them are fake.

There is also the fact that the jinns, the evil/satan ones, often disguise themselves as other beings. Sometimes they claim to be the spirit of so-and-so, sometimes they claim to be an alien or even a divine being. Their aim is usually to mislead people.

Since you mentioned it, pray share your encounter experience?

[Emre_1974tr]

Since you mentioned it, pray share your encounter experience?

It's a long story. All I want to say now is that he had the appearance of a human and could read my mind telepathically.

[Sarah]

Peace,

We live inside of our bodies, and you can call us what you like i.e., soul, spirit, etc., that is why we say "my" foot, my knee, my arm because our bodies belong and are separate from you name it soul, spirit, etc. When we dream our bodies does not accompany us. 

The jinn are physical beings. you can't see them because they dwell inside of people, same for humans while Satan resides inside of both, that is why you have good jinn as well as good humans.  Satan is not some outside force that influences people but dwells inside of each of us who must be controlled.

God bless you
                                                                                         

Peace

How can a physical being be inside of a human? Jinn did dwell in the sky, remember.

[Sarah]

Of course it's physical. And he's talking about now, not in the apocalypse.

I repeat, angels, jinns, human beings...they are all physical and material. Even Paradise and hell are material.

The belief in an immaterial spirit world comes from satanic and perverted spiritism.

The verse you cited also talks about material angels supporting the good while they are still in the world. If you read the whole paragraph you can easily see the truth.

There are no spirits/souls, there are no ghosts.

By the way, we also see in the verses that the jinn have an advanced civilization, both underwater and space travel. They were created long before us and it is normal for them to be advanced in science and technology.

Peace

If they're physical yet invisible, why hasn't anybody ever bumped into these physical beings and wondered what they bumped into?

[Sarah]

It's a long story. All I want to say now is that he had the appearance of a human and could read my mind telepathically.

'And when We decreed for him [i.e., Solomon] death, nothing indicated to them [i.e., the jinn] his death except a creature of the earth eating his staff.1 But when he fell, it became clear to the jinn that if they had known the unseen, they would not have remained in humiliating punishment.' 34:14

If they could read minds, they would have realised prophet Sulaiman was no longer alive.

[Fusion]

The discussions are getting very interesting. Seems every one has a different opinion about the concepts mentioned in Quran.
For example translation of the verse 34:14  I found from GA Pervez who was also regarded as following Quran only.

14.        After Solomon's death, his son ascended the throne.  The son, unlike his father or grand father, was an ordinary below average human being (38:34).  As such the grandeur, might and authority of Daud and Sulaiman's period just vanished away (and ten of the Bani-Israel's tribes revolted against him).  Similarly the uncivilzed tribes who were working hard in complete submission, realized this fact and became rebellious, feeling sorry that they had remained subjugated to a weak person.  Had they known this earlier (that power and might is just in name and that he had lost all his strength), they would never have continued suffering such humiliating servitude.

It appears to definition of Jinn is not authentic among Quranists, for example in above excerpt from GA Pervex Jinn are Humans of different uncivilized being.

I just rememver the verse when it was mentioned in one of the replies posted lately and thouht to share this not intending to divert from the subject.

Hence I feel the definition of Jinn is not agreed upon....

Ref:https://www.parwez.tv/abid/mufhoom_1/by_G_A_parwez/Exposition%20of%20Quran.htm