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Started by Sarah, April 27, 2022, 10:40:26 AM

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Sarah

Peace

I'm so confused about how we should do Ramadan.
Can everyone explain how to do this when following the Qur'an alone?

Thanks
'These are the verses of Allah which We recite to you in truth. Then in what statement (hadith) after Allah and His verses will they believe? (45:6)'

Wakas

peace,

Can you clarify what specifically you are confused about?

You may find this article helpful:
https://mypercept.co.uk/articles/Quran-sawm-fasting.html

Personally I ask myself "Am I sure when ramadan is?" no, "does Quran allow me to fast/abstain other days if ill/travelling?" yes so that means there is flexibility as to when (i.e. when is not as critical as one might think), "does Quran allow me to exchange by feeding a poor person?" yes so what I do is fast/abstain a few days here and there throughout the year and give to charity throughout the year also.
All information in my posts is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should seek knowledge and verify: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11. [url="http://mypercept.co.uk/articles/"]My articles[/url]

[url="//www.studyquran.org"]www.studyQuran.org[/url]

Sarah

Quote from: Wakas on April 28, 2022, 01:43:31 AM
peace,

Can you clarify what specifically you are confused about?

You may find this article helpful:
https://mypercept.co.uk/articles/Quran-sawm-fasting.html

Personally I ask myself "Am I sure when ramadan is?" no, "does Quran allow me to fast/abstain other days if ill/travelling?" yes so that means there is flexibility as to when (i.e. when is not as critical as one might think), "does Quran allow me to exchange by feeding a poor person?" yes so what I do is fast/abstain a few days here and there throughout the year and give to charity throughout the year also.

Peace

Thanks for the answer...

Even though the month of Ramadhan means 'intense heat', wasn't it in the month of Ramadhan the Qur'an was revealed in?

'The month of Ramaḍān [is that] in which was revealed the Qur'ān, a guidance for the people and clear proofs of guidance and criterion. So whoever sights [the crescent of] the month,1 let him fast it; and whoever is ill or on a journey - then an equal number of other days. Allāh intends for you ease and does not intend for you hardship and [wants] for you to complete the period and to glorify Allāh for that [to] which He has guided you; and perhaps you will be grateful.'
— Saheeh International

'These are the verses of Allah which We recite to you in truth. Then in what statement (hadith) after Allah and His verses will they believe? (45:6)'

Wakas

Yes, and?

(although I think that means that is when the revelation began being sent down to the messenger. Some people take it to mean all of Al Quran.)
All information in my posts is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should seek knowledge and verify: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11. [url="http://mypercept.co.uk/articles/"]My articles[/url]

[url="//www.studyquran.org"]www.studyQuran.org[/url]

amin

Yes, fasting as per traditional ways in the month of Ramadan, my take is Ramadan fasting is the month to cleanse yourself, health wise, physically and mentally, Take local simple foods, easy to digest, body hygiene is easy to maintain with fasting, be thankfull to whatever we got the previous months, so do more zakat possible and celebrate the end of fasting the Eid with happiness as ever.

Wakas

I forgot to say the Traditional Islamic calendar, and the month of ramadan, is likely incorrect, so it's not like they know when ramadan is either.

You can read more here:
https://www.free-minds.org/node/208

https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610235.0
All information in my posts is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should seek knowledge and verify: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11. [url="http://mypercept.co.uk/articles/"]My articles[/url]

[url="//www.studyquran.org"]www.studyQuran.org[/url]

Euphoric

You should do your own research and think on the different opinions. Sincerity is between you and Allah.

If you read the verses in context, from 2:183-184, 185 is disconnected from the previous verses and shows fasting in Ramadhan isn't an obligation as there's no mention of a penalty of feeding a person.

In 2:184 it said to feed poor if missed but it also ends with fasting is BETTER not obligatory.

Read other parts of the Quran where fasting is mentioned. There are two types, Siyam and Saum. One is of silence and one of abstaining from food, drinks and sex. They're not the same.

Where else is fasting mentioned? Hajj, wrongly killed game, compensation for killing a believer, breaking oaths, and those who liken their wives to their mothers.


reel

Quote from: Sarah on April 27, 2022, 10:40:26 AM
Peace

I'm so confused about how we should do Ramadan.
Can everyone explain how to do this when following the Qur'an alone?

Thanks

Glorify God for 3 days in isolation.  If you start to see fan with thread like blades rotating and becoming bright in your mind's eye, congrats you are on the right track. Otherwise, you might suddenly end up with flow of information that leaves you mentally lit up. If those dont seem interesting you can use those 3 days to get your wish fulfilled. Its a must that you take a break in between to eat and drink.

Peace
"I fear that nothing will lead me to hell more than ḥadīth"-Hadith collector: Shu'ba Ibn al-Ḥajjāj

Sarah

Quote from: Wakas on May 01, 2022, 05:14:58 AM
Yes, and?

(although I think that means that is when the revelation began being sent down to the messenger. Some people take it to mean all of Al Quran.)

Peace

It seems like it's a specific month rather than fasting a few days every month?

I also believe that's when the Qur'an started to be revealed.
'These are the verses of Allah which We recite to you in truth. Then in what statement (hadith) after Allah and His verses will they believe? (45:6)'

Sarah

Quote from: Wakas on May 02, 2022, 08:06:46 AM
I forgot to say the Traditional Islamic calendar, and the month of ramadan, is likely incorrect, so it's not like they know when ramadan is either.

You can read more here:
https://www.free-minds.org/node/208

https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610235.0

I'll check these links out, thanks for posting
'These are the verses of Allah which We recite to you in truth. Then in what statement (hadith) after Allah and His verses will they believe? (45:6)'