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Is the Speed Of Light a Scientific Miracle of the Qur'an?

Started by Neptin, December 03, 2021, 07:33:58 AM

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Neptin

I want to take a pause from word count miracles for a moment and look at a different kind of miracle that doesn't require counting. One of the most popular example being the Speed of light - 299,792.458 km/sec.

There is an entire website dedicated to elaborating on this miracle - https://speed-of-light.com/speed-light/speed_of_light_12000.html. And I'm just going to paraphrase the writer before my analysis of the miracle. I'll put a strikethrough on faulty assumptions and deductions of the writer.

Let's go.

God created angels from light. They move at light speed. It is the angels who carry out God's orders from a Preserved Tablet somewhere in outer space. They commute to and from this Preserved Tablet to get their orders from God. And the speed at which they commute to and from this Tablet turned out to be the known speed of light:

Quote[Quran 32.5] (Allah) Rules the cosmic affair from the heavens to the Earth. Then this affair travels to Him a distance in one day, at a measure of one thousand years of what you count.

It is the angels who carry out these orders. Hence in 1 day the angels will travel a distance of 1000 years of what you counted (the moon). Since this verse is referring to distance, then God is saying that angels travel in one day the same distance that the moon travels in 12000 lunar orbits. 12000 Lunar Orbits/Earth Day = distance/time = rate of motion (speed).

Distance traveled by angels in one day = 12000 x Length of lunar orbit.

C t' = 12000 L' - where C = speed of angels, t = duration of earth day, L = length of lunar orbit.

Ct = Speed of angels * duration of earth day = distance traveled by angels in one earth day.

12000 L = 25836303825 km

Ct = 25836303825 km

C = 25836303825 km/ 86170.43114 secs

C = 299792.458 km/sec = Speed of angels = Speed of light.

So, wow. Speed of light and speed of angels are the same. Scientific miracle, right? Well, not so fast. Let's see.


1. Wrong translation. The verse never said that the affairs travel in one day the distance travelled by the moon in 1000 lunar years. So, the distance covered by the moon is irrelevant here.

2. The moon completes almost 13 orbits in one lunar year, hence if you're calculating distance covered by the moon in 1000 years, the equation is 12.9 * 1000; not 12 * 1000. If you use the right equation, the answer at the end is not equal the speed of light.

3. If we're to accept the calculation, it mean 258363303825 km is the distance the angels travel to God. But this is shorter than the distance between earth and the nearest star outside the solar system, the Proxima Centauri. So, where do the angels travel to meet God? Somewhere between our Sun and the Proxima Centauri?


So, No. This isn't a scientific miracle. It is another post hoc theory by Muslims who either don't understand Qur'an, Science & Mathematics or who think it is OK to lie and deceive people for the purpose of propagating Islam.
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Jafar

Quote from: Neptin on December 03, 2021, 07:33:58 AM
I want to take a pause from word count miracles for a moment and look at a different kind of miracle that doesn't require counting. One of the most popular example being the Speed of light - 299,792.458 km/sec.

There is an entire website dedicated to elaborating on this miracle - https://speed-of-light.com/speed-light/speed_of_light_12000.html. And I'm just going to paraphrase the writer before my analysis of the miracle. I'll put a strikethrough on faulty assumptions and deductions of the writer.

Let's go.

God created angels from light. They move at light speed. It is the angels who carry out God's orders from a Preserved Tablet somewhere in outer space. They commute to and from this Preserved Tablet to get their orders from God. And the speed at which they commute to and from this Tablet turned out to be the known speed of light:

So, wow. Speed of light and speed of angels are the same.


According to my experience, our angel friends does not travel at the speed of light.
The proper word might be they 'teleported' or 'jump' from a point of space in this universe to another.
Thus they can 'jump' from planet earth to any planet in Andromeda Galaxy which 110,000 light years away in an instant.

What's being described by Lorna Byrne in her books about angel is quite accurate.
I do recommend anyone to check out her books to know more about angels.

Furthermore they can be at multiple point of space and time at the same time too.
And this universe is not the only universe, there are many, how many? perhaps infinite.
Including to be at the opposite of space and time which is time and space.

This can be easily understood when one understand that this 'universe', space and time is an illusion.
Thus the figure that you saw in the mirror is also an illusion.

Neptin

Yes, I thought quite as much. Even at the speed of light, angels would be too slow to travel across the universe.
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hawk99

Peace Neptin, where does Quran say that angels are made of light?

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Neptin

Quote from: hawk99 on December 03, 2021, 04:05:14 PM
Peace Neptin, where does Quran say that angels are made of light?
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I was quoting the website of the miracle. I never said so myself.
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Noon waalqalami

NASA's Webb Telescope
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shPwW11MEHg

sees ~13.7 billion years in past; if > 14 billion light can never reach us.