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What's you view on vaccination?

Vaccines are a fraud and prevent nothing, in reality fostering disease
6 (75%)
Vaccines are real but not safe, and should not be used
0 (0%)
Vaccines give limited protection from targeted diseases
1 (12.5%)
Vacines are a miracle and have saved millions of lives
1 (12.5%)
Vaccines should be forced onto everyone and a passport used to prove it
0 (0%)

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Abdun Nur

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« on: July 12, 2021, 03:28:33 AM »
Peace,

I'm wondering what people actually think of vaccines, the vaccine psych-op is very powerful, and it would interest me to know how ingrained vaccine belief is.

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Re: Vaccination
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2021, 09:23:33 PM »
First of all the disease itself is not well understood yet, there are so many wide variety of symptoms and not  common to everyone, means, each one having their own symptoms.
Next is the testing, so many had questioned the usefulness in using the PCR tests for this and we see asymptomatic but infected, thats something new and never much heard before.
So any health issues like common flu, head ache, fever, diarrhea etc.. at this time there is high chance it to be marked as due to Corona,

With the ever hyping modern media where truth matters less than money, we never know if the vaccines developed within a short span and without proper testing, will ever work in real time or even without any side effects.

We need to wait and see but we are forced by various forces in believing their stories and their only cure the vaccines.

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Re: Vaccination
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2021, 01:11:37 AM »
What disease are you referencing, the covid virus is a fiction, as all viruses are, hence they use pictures of exosomes when they use the media to spread the virus fiction.

The PCR test is utterly worthless, as no virus exists, and the inventor of the test himself points out it is worthless for the purpose presently used, the courts in some countries have determined the PCR test is worthless yet the State mafias, with the agenda of spreading fear and iimposing control continue to impose it.

The medical system was hijacked around 140 years ago by Rollafella, turning medicine into a monopoly mafia based on the lie of germ theory, this functions on the creation and maintaining of disease as a business model, which is why modern medicine cures almost nothing, and cancer has increased along with many other diseases globally, cancer in 1900 was 1 in 1580, now it is 1 in 2, but cancer is not the leading cause of death global, the leading cause of death is medical treatment. When doctors have gone on stike in countries, the death rate has droped as much as 50%.

There have been clinical trials to prove contagion of the flu, the flu is not a virus but an interal reaction to toxicity within the body, this can be from diet, stress, or electromagnetic contamination, it works to clean the body of the toxins, a clinical trial in 1918 proved conclusively that the flu is not contagious, a study in 2020 with animals proved the flu is not contagious, a study in china in 2020 proved that there is absolutely no asymptomatic contagion, with 10 million in the study.

The vaccine is a way to introduce disease, all vaccines have this function, and always have, the covid vaccines will very shortly cause a global cull, which is their purpose, this may well be attempted to be blamed on another fictional virus.

The covid 19 virus has never been isolated, all viruses are constructs, built through computer modelling, not actual things, which is why they are not alive.

The "pandemic" of 1918, which killed around 2% of the population globally, was not caused by the spanish flu, but Aspirin, this was given in very high doses which will kill you quickly as it accumulates in the body.

I call this "the cull of the stupid", it will effectively rid the earth of conformists to the state mafia's dictates, only those with a brain cell firing will avoid the vaccines and survive the cull.

For all those spreading the lies of the State mafias, I say do due dilligence, do not take authority as truth but truth as your authority.

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Re: Vaccination
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2021, 01:24:48 AM »
If anyone wishes to consider the history of the model medical system here's a link:

https://earthcoinage.com/the-nature-of-the-hospital-system/

If anyone wants to consider the present pandemic:

https://earthcoinage.com/a-pandemic-myth-using-germ-boogeyman-for-totalitarian-control/

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« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2021, 12:30:50 PM »
Covid is a new virus & our understanding of it constantly evolving. Hence  diversity of scientific opinion.
As for vaccines causing disease, just do a little research (in present times not v difficult) regarding diseases that have been wiped out or their impact been minimised e.g Smallpox
No virus exists. I suppose HIV, Polio, smallpox etc are some secret global conspiracy by some super duper secret organisation to control the earthlings - exactly how I am not sure. Just to make it seem more realistic these conspirators have invented vaccines (for some named but non existent viruses) to cause horrendous but as yet unidentified diseases and pretend that they have not found successful vaccine for some of the non existent viruses. Hence these non existent viruses continue to cause disease/illness, which obviously is another conspiracy as these diseases are deliberately caused (by what not sure - perhaps asprin or maybe paracetomol or an other) and pretend they are caused by the viruses.
All this amazing conspiracy which has over the years involved billions in this fiendish plot and no one has breathed a word as how hey were recruited into it.
Horrible how these conspirators keep exaggerating the incidence of so many disease such as cancer etc. When the incidence was so low centuries ago. I mean just because you have CT, MRI, zillions of other tests including regular post mortems, why should that increase our understanding of why individual has died today compared to say in the 18th century.

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« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2021, 01:29:32 PM »
There is no real thing that is claimed a virus, they are as real as unicorns, and the study of virology is akin to the study of unicorn fantasy, both are based in imagined bullshit, not in science of any sort, this is hard for people to believe, as the medical quackery is painted as scientific, but the very foundations of the modern medical quackery are based on lies, the one germ equals one disease fantasy of germ theory, and that lie led to the virus fiction.

Disease exists yes, but the cause is the question you should be considering, the quackery claim bacteria, fungus and viruses cause disease, this is not the case, and that false belief is why the medical quackery cure almost nothing, and also why the leading cause of death globally is medical treatment.

It does not require a secret conspiracy to pull this con off, it only requires the schooled mind. The schooling system was developed as a reaction to the trivium, created to remove the skill of reasoning from the population, and it is a fantasic method to achieve this, instead of reasoning the schooled mind memorises and regurgitates authority as truth, unthinking, unquestioning, blindly accepting of authority, so those who excell at memorisation and regurgitation of authorative information become doctors, and other university certified idiots.

And for this achievement of regurgitating authority they are rewarded with higher pay and better benefits.

They did the same thing to physics, nothing has advanced in physics since the 1930's, as they created fantasy as the foundation, and nothing real can be built on fantasy, they imposed the nonsense of Saint Einstein and changed from quaternion mathematics to abstracted (meaning removed from reality) mathematics, authoriatively imposing through hierarchy a gravity based fantasy of the cosmos.

As your owners openly state, if you lie big it will always be believed by the masses, and they are happy to lie big.

Now what I state will for most be rejected, and that is the schooled mind trained reaction to the truth, the investment in the lies is too valuable and cognative dissonance dominates, but what I state is axiomatic when a reasoning mind looks at the situation, taking little investigation to determine.

Read the two linked articles I wrote above on this thread, and the truth will set you free, if you can overcome the dissonance.

For those who are so invested in the lies nothing will save them from themselves, they will demand all voices of truth are silenced, and seek out the covid injection claimed to give limited protection from a fantasy virus, when in reality their psychopathic owners are inflicting a global cull of humanity, this is why I call it the cull of the stupid..

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Re: Vaccination
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2021, 03:17:50 PM »
Dear Abdur Nun

I have very little desire to discuss with you. My post was for those who may be take your claims seriously, However i cant resist one comment to your claim below:

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For those who are so invested in the lies nothing will save them from themselves, they will demand all voices of truth are silenced, and seek out the covid injection claimed to give limited protection from a fantasy virus, when in reality their psychopathic owners are inflicting a global cull of humanity, this is why I call it the cull of the stupid.
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This cull has been so successful that that the human population since the advent of vaccine has gone from hundreds of millions to over 7 billion ( I cant be bothered to give you the exact figure but you get my drift)

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« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2021, 12:29:08 AM »
Peace Not Learning,

As I say it is the cull of the stupid, it is likely the huge number of deaths coming from the vaccine genocide will be blamed on a new fictional virus, but if you've been vaccinated that won't effect you, as you'll already be dead.

It's funny how the stupid make claims based on indoctrination father than actually investigating the reality of the situation, and I agree you would be incapable of discussing anything reasonably being a cull advocate, so get the vaccines and make your owners happy, as they consider you and all those they plan to exterminate as worthless eaters.

Vaccines have never saved a single life, and the growth of population has absolutely nothing to do with vaccines, but it will certainly have a great deal to do with population reduction.

It's quite amusing that vaccine advocates will be soon exterminated by their own ignorance and gullibility, anyway you are doing no one any favours spreading the vaccine are a miracle fantasy.

Good luck with your foolishness, and those around you have my sympathy as it is likely you will aid in their extermination....

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« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2021, 06:55:27 PM »
Covid is a new virus & our understanding of it constantly evolving. Hence  diversity of scientific opinion.
As for vaccines causing disease, just do a little research (in present times not v difficult) regarding diseases that have been wiped out or their impact been minimised e.g Smallpox
What do you think about death following vaccination of covid-19?

https://publichealthscotland.scot/publications/covid-19-statistical-report/covid-19-statistical-report-23-june-2021/


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« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2021, 10:45:25 PM »
What disease are you referencing, the covid virus is a fiction, as all viruses are, hence they use pictures of exosomes when they use the media to spread the virus fiction.

The PCR test is utterly worthless, as no virus exists, and the inventor of the test himself points out it is worthless for the purpose presently used, the courts in some countries have determined the PCR test is worthless yet the State mafias, with the agenda of spreading fear and iimposing control continue to impose it.

The medical system was hijacked around 140 years ago by Rollafella, turning medicine into a monopoly mafia based on the lie of germ theory, this functions on the creation and maintaining of disease as a business model, which is why modern medicine cures almost nothing, and cancer has increased along with many other diseases globally, cancer in 1900 was 1 in 1580, now it is 1 in 2, but cancer is not the leading cause of death global, the leading cause of death is medical treatment. When doctors have gone on stike in countries, the death rate has droped as much as 50%.

There have been clinical trials to prove contagion of the flu, the flu is not a virus but an interal reaction to toxicity within the body, this can be from diet, stress, or electromagnetic contamination, it works to clean the body of the toxins, a clinical trial in 1918 proved conclusively that the flu is not contagious, a study in 2020 with animals proved the flu is not contagious, a study in china in 2020 proved that there is absolutely no asymptomatic contagion, with 10 million in the study.

The vaccine is a way to introduce disease, all vaccines have this function, and always have, the covid vaccines will very shortly cause a global cull, which is their purpose, this may well be attempted to be blamed on another fictional virus.

The covid 19 virus has never been isolated, all viruses are constructs, built through computer modelling, not actual things, which is why they are not alive.

The "pandemic" of 1918, which killed around 2% of the population globally, was not caused by the spanish flu, but Aspirin, this was given in very high doses which will kill you quickly as it accumulates in the body.

I call this "the cull of the stupid", it will effectively rid the earth of conformists to the state mafia's dictates, only those with a brain cell firing will avoid the vaccines and survive the cull.

For all those spreading the lies of the State mafias, I say do due dilligence, do not take authority as truth but truth as your authority.


In reality we see these Virus things affecting humanity for centuries, each with different symptoms. This Covid is primarily airborne, and normally air borne pathogens easily spread, cannot be controlled and are affected by weather/wind/rains... but yet there are many doubts on the narrative given by the mainstream medical fraternity and our govt on how this spreads and they are after higher profits and control of the people, they cant give answers on why the spread go down and  up at certain periods of the year,  how it can prevented with the vaccination for a disease that are not understood yet, as we are still in the starting stage of this disease.

At this stage, I think, this virus cannot be natural, its either an experimental lab made virus or one common virus that recently mutated due to corrupting of the nature. I don't believe in the Wuhan market theory.


Our natural immunity is the key in fighting these diseases, our mind and body is in a kind of balance, one affecting the other, we should watch what we intake both with our body and in our mind. Too much unwanted things entering both are dangerous and affect the both. Even some medications like pain killers, sleep pills etc are dangerous to our immunity.

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« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2021, 03:13:07 AM »
You are claiming that the cause of dis-ease is because of a virus, I'm not in any disagreement that dis-ease exists, but the cause of dis-ease is not from something that does not exist, they cannot isolate a virus, only the residue, which is the basis of building a virus model on a computer, and the reason a virus is not a living thing.

The basis of modern medicine is germ theory, this is utter nonsense, the one germ equals one disease fantasy, I realise this is hard for people to accept, none the less it is irrifutable when the evidence is considered objectively.

This was the anicent model of Ba'alist monopoly, with the invention of Christianity they formed a monopoly on health care, based on evil spirits invading the body, and the priest would then expel the evil spirit with potions and spells. Likewise Rockafella formed a medical monopoly mafia around 140 years ago and imposed the germ theory which is the same the external evil invading the body.

The correct understanding of dis-ease is terrain theory, the body is not sterile, around 56% of the mass of the body is bacteria and fungus, without which you'd die, dis-ease is a result of toxins, defieciencies or stress, it is not from external bogymen.

You seem convinced about the covid fantasy, how do you know it's airborn? As the virus they calim has NEVER been isolated, pictures they post in the media are of exosomes nothing to do with a virus fantasy.

You believe the virus, which has never been isolated is not natural, how could it be examined if it has never been isolated for anyone to determine what it is?

No one has proved contagion of any flu, ever, they have tried but proven the direct opposite, it is impossible to catch the flu, the flu is the internal reaction to toxins, the body seeks to clean itself, this is called the flu or common cold.




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« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2021, 09:33:47 AM »
The electron microscope, I see, puzzling why they cannot identify viruses and have to build them on a computer model from detritus, they can find detritus with an electron microscope, and that s used to build a computer model of the invented virus, look deeper into the world of virology, it has unicorn rainbows, and magical vistas, nothing in virology is actually based in real science.

But don't let me stand in your way of wearing the mask of conformity, or getting the vaccine of termination, or having the endless testing of extortion and stupidity, after all it's all science, right?

Here's some food for thought for you:

https://www.outersite.org/what-really-makes-you-ill/