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God is USELESS.. Naturalism is what matters for salvation!
« on: June 20, 2021, 05:32:32 PM »
Premise 1: It is a promise binding on Us (21:104)

Premise 2: There is no change in the sunnatullah (33:62, 35:43., 40:85)

Premise 3: There is no changing Allah´s creation. That is the true Deen (30:30, 40:4, 41:53)

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Conclusion: Sunnatullah (Natural Law) alone 60:4. 40:4, 41;53

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Therefore: Allah does not wrong anyone by so much as an atom's weight. (4:40)




Man is the most insane species. He worships an invisible God and destroys a visible Nature. Unaware that this Nature he’s destroying is this God he’s worshiping. ― Hubert Reeves

Musa said, ´[Allah is] the Lord of the East and the West and everything between them, if you would only use your reason!´ (26:28)

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Re: God is USELESS.. Naturalism is what matters for salvation!
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2021, 02:46:20 AM »
Just like motivation works the other way too ,like for example.

-I want to see everyone weak and me strong. I want to be number one in everything I do.

-I want everyone else to stay pessimist, I want to be Evil to survive.

-I want to be  successful at the expense of others. I am optimistic and confident that I will be successful in life regardless of ethics!


What is new with  the philosophy of success and ego?

This philosophy renders the ego thinking it is doing good  and does not see selfishness and pride.

What is new brother with your sect? Just like all selfish sects,dressed up as good!!!
You and your sect is the right  way. Every other way is the wrong way!!!
How can that be a good thing? Is this not selfish?
Keep forcing your way, I keep forcing mine and so on...
I apologise to you and everyone else. My way is no more, I give up .May the Lord  forgive me.
GOD bless you.
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Re: God is USELESS.. Naturalism is what matters for salvation!
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2021, 11:39:57 AM »
Just like motivation works the other way too ,like for example.

-I want to see everyone weak and me strong. I want to be number one in everything I do.

-I want everyone else to stay pessimist, I want to be Evil to survive.

-I want to be  successful at the expense of others. I am optimistic and confident that I will be successful in life regardless of ethics!


What is new with  the philosophy of success and ego?

This philosophy renders the ego thinking it is doing good  and does not see selfishness and pride.

What is new brother with your sect? Just like all selfish sects,dressed up as good!!!

So you must look at the Qiblah....which Qiblah?

1. Moral Universalism (al-Masjid al-Haraam)

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2. Moral Relativism (al-Masjid al-Aqsa)




MORAL UNIVERSALISM:
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Main life issue: What defines you? Who am I?
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Remember when Ibrahim said to his FATHER [STATISM], Azar, ´Do you take idols as gods? I see that you and your people are clearly misguided.´ Because of that We showed Ibrahim the dominions of the heavens and the earth so that he might be one of the people of certainty.  When night covered him he saw a STAR [ ✡ SUPREMACISM] and said, ´This is my Lord!´ Then when it set he said, ´I do not love what sets.´ Then when he saw the MOON [ ☪︎ SCHISM] come up he said, ´This is my Lord!´ Then when it set he said, ´If my Lord does not guide me, I will be one of the misguided people.´ Then when he saw the SUN [ ✞ MATERIALISM] come up he said, ´This is my Lord! This is greater!´ Then when it set he said, ´My people, I am free of what you associate with Allah. I have turned my face to Him/Sunnatullah Who brought the heavens and earth into being, a HANIF [SPIRITUALISM]. I am not one of the MUSHRIKUN [3:67  ✡ STAR, ☪︎ MOON, ✞ SUN].´ (6:74-78)

Those who have iman [NOT ✡ STAR, ☪︎ MOON, ✞ SUN, 11:17/5:81/3:28] and do not mix up their iman//103/FACT/MUHKAMAT with any wrongdoing/4:82/OPINION/MUTASYAABIHAT, they are the ones who are safe; it is they who are guided.´ This is the [HANIF/NATURALIST] argument We gave to Ibrahim against his people. We raise in rank anyone We will. Your Lord is All-Wise, All-Knowing (6:82-83)

It is Spiritual Naturalism

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In conclusion, "natural person" means:

1. Not statism
2. Not ✡ STAR/supremacism/Qarun
3. Not ☪︎ MOON/schism/Haman
4. Not ✞ SUN/materialism/Pharaoh
5. Spiritualism/Atomism (align our nature with NATURE)
6. Naturalism (al-Masjid al-Haram, unmixed, logic)
7. Pharaonic Jihad, 11:17, 7:155-158

It is the Deen of Ecospirituality

“There are only patterns, patterns on top of patterns, patterns that affect other patterns. Patterns hidden by patterns. Patterns within patterns. If you watch close, history does nothing but repeat itself. What we call chaos is just patterns we haven't recognized. What we call random is just patterns we can't decipher. what we can't understand we call nonsense. What we can't read we call gibberish. There is no free will. There are no variables.” - Chuck Palahniuk

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This is the way that Ibrahim was to deny polytheism (shirk) of all kinds and to avoid idolatry in all its forms.
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A fool would abandon Ibrahim's faith (2:130/2:124/3:33/4:125/3:64-68/22:78)

Say, ´Allah speaks the truth, so follow the religion of Ibrahim, a man of pure natural belief. He was not one of the idolaters.´ (3:95) Say: ´My Lord has guided me to a straight path, a well-founded deen, the religion of Ibrahim, a man of pure natural belief. He was not one of the idolaters.´ Say: ´My salat and my rites, my living and my dying, are for Allah alone, the Lord of all the worlds (6:161-162)



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Re: God is USELESS.. Naturalism is what matters for salvation!
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2021, 11:49:56 AM »
How can that be a good thing? Is this not selfish?
Keep forcing your way, I keep forcing mine and so on...
I apologise to you and everyone else. My way is no more, I give up .May the Lord  forgive me.
GOD bless you.
Peace.


Exactly, how can there be a good thing with MORAL RELATIVISM? How?

SATANIC PHILOSOPHY:
Satan says "The reason that there is no access to absolute morals is obvious: there is no (good!) god!"
The Description, Philosophies and Justification of Satanism


Is this not selfish?



They walked arrogantly on the Earth, offending against all right, and saying, "Who could have a power greater than ours (cultural relativism)?" (41:15)

If the truth were to follow their desires (moral/cultural relativism), then the heavens and the Earth and all who are in them would have been corrupted. No, We have come to them with their reminder, but from their reminder they are turning away (23:71)

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Allah makes the sun come from the East. Make it come from the West? (2:258)

Try not to die if what (relativism) you say is true? (3:168) or


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Re: God is USELESS.. Naturalism is what matters for salvation!
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2021, 03:32:25 PM »
I do not control east and west. I only control right and left

If the sun rises on my left I can easily male it rise on my right. That s right I just turn around 180 degrees!

As for " there is no god"  and "Qiblah,", whichever way I turn  it is Qiblah and I am facing GOD.

So yes, I am looking at every direction . That is my Qiblah.

GOD bless you.
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Re: God is USELESS.. Naturalism is what matters for salvation!
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2021, 04:14:52 PM »
That ayat refers to NATURE/NATURALISM/ABSOLUTISM

and you're not an Absolutist / Universalist / Naturalist... nothing to do with NATURE at all (ie. Humanism / Realism).



So yes, I am looking at every direction . That is my Qiblah.

Then it is obvious that there is no truth in your philosophy, for you've denied the Sunnatullah (moral universalism/absolutism).



Those who don't know the TRUTH, are living the LIES.

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Re: God is USELESS.. Naturalism is what matters for salvation!
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2021, 05:19:56 PM »
Brother Mahdi...
I hope you don't mind you calling Mahdi..

If my memory  is correct, Didn't you say that God is FIRE?

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Re: God is USELESS.. Naturalism is what matters for salvation!
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2021, 05:58:59 PM »
Brother Mahdi...
I hope you don't mind you calling Mahdi..

If my memory  is correct, Didn't you say that God is FIRE?

Fire of Moses, ie. the Light or Energy...

 "The Ruh is my Lord´s concern. You have only been given a little knowledge" (17:85)


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Here in this post regarding salvation; as to what really matters for salvation

No iman which a self professes will be of any use to it if it did not have iman before and earn good in its iman (6:158)



From here, we can make it simple for passing to heaven / final trial

         Definition of Iman: Unfriend (between political parties, 60:8-9) the moral relativist, 5:81

         Definition of Amal: Tawba, Chapter 103

Therefore:

         5:81 + 103 = Heaven


Chapter 103



The rest is minimalism; 5:101



We shall show you the easy way ( 87:8 )

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Re: God is USELESS.. Naturalism is what matters for salvation!
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2021, 03:19:51 AM »
Do you mean those who do not know your truth?

Why should you be entitled to your truth and deny them theirs?

If there is only one truth and you have it why have you not evidenced it clearly for everyone to share it with you?
After all "truth" by definition is absolute  , those who claim it without evidence  for others(To leave no doubt!) have only their truth .

So best of luck to each with their truth.
GOD bless you.
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Re: God is USELESS.. Naturalism is what matters for salvation!
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2021, 03:55:24 AM »
Do you mean those who do not know your truth?

Nope, but this (11:17 + 4:82) - TRUTH TABLE

                 Law of Nature + Natural Person + Natural Cause/Society = TRUTH (Moral Universalism/Absolutism)

The definition of straight path: Truly you are guiding to a Straight Path: ie. the Path of Allah to Whom everything in the heavens and everything on the earth belongs. (42:52-53)



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Why should you be entitled to your truth and deny them theirs?

Who says they are not entitled to their truth?

That is not Anarchism. "Rule by NONE"

Anarchy is law and freedom without force.

Despotism is law and force without freedom.

Barbarism force without freedom and law.

Republicanism is force with freedom and law.


― Immanuel Kant, Anthropology from a Pragmatic Point of View





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If there is only one truth and you have it why have you not evidenced it clearly for everyone to share it with you? After all "truth" by definition is absolute  , those who claim it without evidence  for others(To leave no doubt!) have only their truth .

Already did....

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Do you agree with the terms? No? Why? Reason?