Quote from: Wakas on June 15, 2021, 11:06:24 AM
You said:
Even if it did mean head-cover here the command is to cover the chest not the head.
See:
https://misconceptions-about-islam.com/misconception.php?id=34
Peace brother Waqas...
That's a good article.. I appreciate you did it..
I have read this article long back but when I read today those concerned verses some new questions popped up...
1... What is that beauty that husband and father or sons etc are permitted if seen not issue.. For example for public, suppose what is apparent is like full face with head, hands up to elbow, legs up to as anckle.. Then what is beyond that fathers sons even strangly husband also in that list.. What can a son see from his mother in general beyond what is normally apparent.. Just for my knowledge and get what your view and even others.. You classified to two type.. How and what actually made you to classify.. Actually it seems good classification... But is it within Quran.. For example classification. Two.. Hip.. In countries where women wear Saree, showing hip or even the tummy is mostly common and is much apparently exposed body part.. And no body cares... BTW it is not even a modern dress... Even upper back lower back.. You have listed what is apparent body parts ..i agree.. But may be you can add hip tummy or upper back.. If seeing hip makes one sexually arousing then seeing a beautiful lips of a woman as well more than that.. Yes.. Lowering gaze always would help.. But can we classify Or are we allowed to classy thus. . I think what is apparent should depend on the dress what each culture is commonly wearing.. As I stated above Saree.. Most of what you classified in group 2 should then jump to group 1 ...
But Quran clearly indicates to cover private parts... What 100% private part fir women.. If women go with tiny short and bra she has covered her private parts.. No one can call she is nude.. Or not covered private parts.. Definitely she has.. Bit such dress doesn't seem encouraged in Quran.. Coz why lower your gaze while you yourself wearing exposing 80% of your body... So Quran clearly indicates to wear modestly.. That's for sure... But I am not honestly sure to classify what is apparent and not.. It depends on culture.. But if culture is nude.. Then clear no according to Quran..
2... Let the Khamar be whatever... Honestly I don't know what cloth that is. . But point to ponder is, For what purpose women were wearing those days this piece of cloth and where in the body they were wearing to drag the same piece of cloth to cover the chest as well...drag from up or down of chest.. Were they wearing this khamar for beauty or for climate condition.. Is there any kind of cloth that is worn below the chest which is dragged to the chest to cover it.. Can you just give me one example of any such clothes women wearing yester year or modern days... If not it seems something worn above chest.. Or is this khamar not at all regularly worn piece of cloth, but quickly worn just to show more respect infront of someone...
3... Why wives of Prophet and daughters mentioned and then only wives of believers and NOT mentioned daughters of believers .. Was it only to that particular community and not relevant to entire believers after that..
4...what connection with those passed child bearing and those who not willing to marry... Earlier could most probably old women but not later example...
Btw.... Clearly in these verses three tyoe of clothes mentioned.. One is out garment which completely covers so no one can notice anything in women.. Apart from what is normally apparent in that culture. ..
Second Normal clothes... Removing it can show what apparently not visible..
Third khamar..