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God wants Spiritual Fruits, NOT RELIGIOUS NUTS
« on: May 25, 2021, 11:23:53 PM »
God wants Spiritual Fruits, NOT RELIGIOUS NUTS

He has laid down THE SAME DEEN (ie. there is no religion but HANIF RELIGION/religious naturalism/ecospirituality) for you as He enjoined on Nuh: that which We have revealed to you and which We enjoined on Ibrahim, Musa and ´Isa: ´Establish the (same) deen and do not make divisions in itWhat you call the idolaters/RELIGIOUS NUTS/30:30-32/4:150-151 to follow is very hard for them. Allah chooses for Himself anyone He wills and guides to Himself those who turn to Him. (42:15)

Ecospirituality, Religious Naturalism, Spiritual but NOT RELIGIOUS, Green Anarchism .... etc in GREENISM.



He made all gods ONE GOD (38:5)



Only argue with the People of the Book in the kindest way (logic, logical soundness, "with proofs and evidence 12:108") — except in the case of those of them who do wrong — saying, ´We have iman in what has been sent down to us and what was sent down to you. Our God and your God are one and we submit to Him.´ (29:46)

So call and go straight as you have been ordered to. Do not follow their whims and desires but say, ´I have iman in a Book sent down by Allah and I am ordered to be just between you. Allah is our Lord and your Lord. We have our actions and you have your actions. There is no debate between us and you [in RELIGOUS ISSUES]. Allah will gather us all together. He is our final destination.´ (42:15)


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Re: God wants Spiritual Fruits, NOT RELIGIOUS NUTS
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2021, 02:45:57 AM »
I love nuts. Mixed nuts are best.
Religious nuts, free minds forum nuts, non religious nuts,nature nuts.... I share my nuts as well.
I will have some of your nuts and everybody else s nuts and I share some of mine with everyone.

GOD bless you all.
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Re: God wants Spiritual Fruits, NOT RELIGIOUS NUTS
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2021, 03:02:39 AM »
Yeap, I'm fully aware of your philosophy... the centrist 63:4.  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mPazYL5Nks

When you see them, their outward form appeals to you, and if they speak you listen to what they say. But they are like propped-up planks of wood/rotten floor. They imagine every cry/sorrow/God's test/2:216 to be against them. They are the real enemy, so beware of them. Allah fight them! How they are perverted! (63:4)





I hate religious nuts because I'm....



You who have iman! do not ask about matters which, if they were made known to you, would make things difficult for you. If you do ask about them when the Qur´an is being sent down, they will be made known to you. Allah has ignored them. Allah is Ever-Forgiving, All-Forbearing. (5:101)

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Re: God wants Spiritual Fruits, NOT RELIGIOUS NUTS
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2021, 09:11:07 AM »
So you think I am the real enemy?
In that case, do not worry,GOD will sort it out.

Only GOD knows the hypocrite from the sincere.
From my part I have no enemies. I am not centrist,rightist or leftist or any ..ists.
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Re: God wants Spiritual Fruits, NOT RELIGIOUS NUTS
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2021, 09:20:19 AM »
I love nuts. Mixed nuts are best.
Religious nuts, free minds forum nuts, non religious nuts,nature nuts.... I share my nuts as well.
I will have some of your nuts and everybody else s nuts and I share some of mine with everyone.

That is a CENTRIST.




Albert Einstein — 'The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything.'

have the same opinion with the Quran...

ELSE

Indifference to evil (moral relativism) is more insidious than evil itself. It is a silent justification affording evil acceptability in society. 58:14-19, 4:143-145




They are neither with you nor with them (58:14)   -->   It is they who are Satan’s army. (58:19)

They are neither with you nor with them (4:143)   -->   The hypocrites/9:56/cowards will be in the lowest depths of Hell (4:145)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSnDk3Qmqms

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j800SVeiS5I


They would like you to be kafir as they are kafir/5:81/3:28 ("They are neither with you nor with them" 58:14, 4:143) so that you will all be the same. Do not take any of them as friends until they have made hijra in the Way of Allah. (4:89)




EXCELLENT EXAMPLE FOR SAVING PLANET EARTH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T79JfuisG_8

You have an excellent example (for SAVING PLANET EARTH, NAFSUL KAMILAH) in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people, ´We wash our hands of you and all that you worship serve from Allah/Sunnatullah/Law of Nature/Moral Universalism, and we reject you. Between us and you there will be enmity and hatred for ever unless and until you have iman in Allah/Sunnatullah/Law of Nature/Moral Universalism alone.´ Except (bad example) for Abraham´s words to his father: ´I will ask forgiveness for you but I have no power to help you in any way against Allah/Sunnatullah/Law of Nature/Moral Universalism.´ [But say] ´Our LordLaw (of Nature), we have put our trust in You. and have made tawba to You. You are our final destination. (Q60:4)

Allah has given you love of iman/MORAL UNIVERSALISM and made it pleasing to your hearts, and has made [MORAL RELATIVISM, 23:71] kufr, deviance and disobedience hateful to you. People such as these are rightly guided. (49"7)

Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and those who are with him are fierce to the kafirun/MORAL RELATIVISM, merciful to one another.  (48:29)

You who have iman! if any of you renounce your deen, Allah will bring forward a people whom He loves and who love Him, humble to the muminun, fierce to the kafirun/MORAL RELATIVISM, who strive in the Way of Allah and do not fear the blame of any censurer. That is the unbounded favour of Allah which He gives to whoever He wills. Allah is Boundless, All-Knowing. (5:54)



Nothing personal, but....

Activism is the rent I pay for living on this planet.

When a community among them said, ´Why do you give advice to people who God will destroy or punish with a severe suffering?´ They would answer, ´In order to be free from blame [The earth is not dying, it is being killed, and those who are killing it have names and addresses] before your Lord and so that these might become conscious of Him.´ (Quran 7:164)

Al-Wala' wal-Bara'



RELIGION OF HATE (not an approval junkies or for wages "Follow those who do not ask you for any wage and who have received guidance. (36:21)")

vs.


SATANISM (RELIGION OF LOVE AND HUMANITY)

http://www.dpjs.co.uk/ethics.html#OU0558

It is they who are Satan’s army. (58:19) Satan from both mankind and from the jinn, who inspire each other with delusions by means of specious words (6:112)


From my part I have no enemies [ = They are neither with you nor with them (58:14, 4:143)].

If you obeyed the majority of those on earth, they would lead you away from Allah’s Way. They follow nothing but assumptions and do nothing but lie. (6:116)

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Re: God wants Spiritual Fruits, NOT RELIGIOUS NUTS
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2021, 11:28:20 PM »
If you divide the world into you and them. then everybody else is  centrist according to you.!!!

Great logic. brother?
If you say so then.
Or what is your evidence? Or maybe you have authority and knowledge to judge others?
For me only GOD Alone is our judge.
GOD bless you.
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Re: God wants Spiritual Fruits, NOT RELIGIOUS NUTS
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2021, 12:51:07 AM »
If you divide the world into you and them. then everybody else is  centrist according to you.!!!

nope.. I divide the world into

1. Nature (SUNNATULLAH ALONE, moral universalism, natural law school of thought, minimum = anarchist)

2. Unnature  (TAGHUT, moral relativism, other school of thoughts = statist)

The natural liberty of man is to be free from any superior power on Earth, and not to be under the will or legislative authority of man, but only to have the law of nature for his rule.



it means I divide the world into

1. Natural justice (moral universalism)

2. Forced justice (moral relativism)



it means I divide the world into

1. al-Masjid al-Haram (moral universalism, PURELY nature)

2. al-Masjid al-Aqsa (moral relativism, MIXUP nature and unnature)

If you have doubts about what We have sent down to Our slave, produce another sura/argument/constitution equal to it, and call your witnesses, besides Allah, if you are telling the truth. If you do not do that — and you will never be able to do so! — then fear the Fire whose fuel is people and stones, made ready for the kafirun. (2:23-24)



Our Lord (Law of purely moral universalism alone) proves that we are messengers to you (36:16) We have not sent any Messenger except with the language of his people so he can make things clear to them (14:4)



You can't walk with God/Sunnatullah/Cultural Universalism

and hold hands with Satan/Cultural Relativism/Statism

at the same time.












and there are people who are not centrist (realist school of thought)....  ;D





Mapping the ideologies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mPazYL5Nks







What's wrong with your logic? How do you judge? (68:36)



If the Truth conformed to their DESIRES/25:43/MORAL RELATIVISM, truly, the heavens, and the earth, and whoever is in them would have been corrupted. Instead, We have given them their Reminder, but they turn away from it. (23:71)

MORAL UNIVERSALISM/ABSOLUTISM: Is it other than the deen of Allah that you desire [Deen of Love and Humanity, Theism/Politicalism/Polytheism etc], when everything in the heavens and earth, willingly or unwillingly, submits to Him/sunnatullah and to Him you will be returned? (3:83)


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Re: God wants Spiritual Fruits, NOT RELIGIOUS NUTS
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2021, 01:38:54 AM »
So what is new here?
You and your understanding/philosophy is the right way.
And every one  else s understanding philosophy ,if it does not mirror yours, is wrong?
Or can you force your way on others?
So what is wrong with your logic as well? is this how you judge?

The plank in the eye example apply to all of us brother!

State your ideas/beliefs for info  and apply them to yourself. Others are free to do the same with their ideas/beliefs.
That is all each one of us are entitled to.
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Re: God wants Spiritual Fruits, NOT RELIGIOUS NUTS
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2021, 01:42:27 AM »
Try not to die if what you say (moral/cultural relativism) is true? (3:168)  :rotfl:

or

Allah/Sunntullah makes the sun come from the East

so make it come from the West? (2:258)



Nature vs. Unnature









State your ideas/beliefs for info  and apply them to yourself. Others are free to do the same with their ideas/beliefs.

The minimalist principles.....

...

Anarchy is law and freedom without force.

Despotism is law and force without freedom.

Barbarism force without freedom and law.

Republicanism is force with freedom and law.


― Immanuel Kant, Anthropology from a Pragmatic Point of View


Private Offence

There is no compulsion where the deen is concerned. Right guidance has become clearly distinct from error. Anyone who rejects false gods and has iman in Allah has grasped the Firmest Handhold, which will never give way. Allah is All-Hearing, All-Knowing. (2:256)

If your Lord had willed, all the people on the earth would have had iman. Do you think you can force people to be muminun? No self can have iman except with Allah´s permission. He places a blight on those who do not use their intellect. (10:99-100)

Say: ´It is the truth from your Lord; so let whoever wishes have iman and whoever wishes be kafir.´ (18:29)

So call and go straight as you have been ordered to. Do not follow their whims and desires but say, ´I have iman in a Book sent down by Allah and I am ordered to be just between you. Allah is our Lord and your Lord. We have our actions and you have your actions. There is no debate between us and you. Allah will gather us all together. He is our final destination.´ (42:15)

Only argue with the People of the Book in the kindest way — except in the case of those of them who do wrong — saying, ´We have iman in what has been sent down to us and what was sent down to you. Our God and your God are one and we submit to Him.´ (29:46)

It is not for you to guide them. God guides whomever He wills (2:272)

You surely cannot guide whoever you like, but it is Allah Who guides whoever He wills, and He knows best who are fit to be guided. (28:56)

Your only duty is to deliver the message clearly (16:82, 14:4, 4:82)




The form of punishment in the anarchist society (Intentional Community)

If they had had iman in Allah and the Messenger and what has been sent down to him, they would not have taken them as friends. But most of them are deviators. (5:81, 3:28, Chapter 60 and 48:29)

You have an excellent example in Ibrahim and those with him, when they said to their people, ´We wash our hands of you and all that you serve apart from Allah/ Sunnatullah/ Law of Nature/ Moral Universalism, and we reject you. Between us and you there will be enmity and hatred for ever unless and until you have iman in Allah/ Sunnatullah/ Law of Nature/ Moral Universalism alone.´ Except for Ibrahim´s words to his father: ´I will ask forgiveness for you but I have no power to help you in any way against Allah.´ ´Our Lord, we have put our trust in You. and have made tawba to You. You are our final destination. (60:4)

Allah does not forbid you from being good to those who have not fought you in the deen or driven you from your homes, or from being just towards them. Allah loves those who are just. Allah merely forbids you from taking as friends those who have fought you in the deen and driven you from your homes and who supported your expulsion. Any who take them as friends are wrongdoers. (60:8-9)


Intentional Community

Mankind! We created you from a male and female, and made you into peoples and tribes so that you might come to know each other. The noblest among you in Allah´s sight is the one with the most taqwa. Allah is All-Knowing, All-Aware. (49:13)




Public Offence (Criminal Law)

Permission to fight is given to those who are fought against because they have been wronged — truly Allah has the power to come to their support — those who were expelled from their homes without any right, merely for saying, ´Our Lord is Allah´ (if Allah had not driven some people back by means of others, monasteries, churches, synagogues and mosques, where Allah´s name is mentioned much, would have been pulled down and destroyed. Allah will certainly help those who help Him — Allah is All-Strong, Almighty), (22:39-40)

What reason could you have for not fighting in the Way of Allah — for those men, women and children who are oppressed and say, ´Our Lord, take us out of this city whose inhabitants are wrongdoers! Give us a protector from You! Give us a helper from You!´? Those who have iman fight in the Way of Allah. Those who are kafir fight in the way of false gods. So fight the friends of Shaytan! Shaytan´s scheming is always feeble. (4:75-76)



NATURALIST CONSTITUTION


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Re: God wants Spiritual Fruits, NOT RELIGIOUS NUTS
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2021, 02:03:37 AM »
I welcome death. Death is a certainty for all of us.

I have good news in GOD s message that only GOD Alone knows our inner thoughts and GOD Alone knows and rewards the believers. 3:171

GOD makes the distinction of believers and non believers not me,you or anyone else.

Everyone of us tastes death,then we receive what we deserve on the day of resurrection.

Following the message needs perseverance, patience and UNITY brother. Then all the believers may succeed -3:200-
Do not say to those who whish you no harm and are peaceful they are not believers .

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Re: God wants Spiritual Fruits, NOT RELIGIOUS NUTS
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2021, 02:07:50 AM »
There is no violence in greenism or green anarchism... it is NOT NATURE.

Do not say to those who whish you no harm and are peaceful they are not believers .

Not my saying, but Allah...

                 It is they who are Satan’s army. (58:19)

and it is justified

CONTEXT: Save Earth, Save Life



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58MxV6S99y0

Albert Einstein — 'The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything.'


There is not even humanity without planet Earth  :rotfl:

        No family
        No economy
        No god
        No religion
        No ... NOTHING.


Therefore:



This is politics, it is hate between political parties... what's wrong with that?  :police:



Green anarchism is an anarchist school of thought....



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_politics





Have iman in Allah and His Messenger and in the Light (64:8 )

[Allah] Religious/Spiritual Naturalism = Metaphysical Interpretation Methodology

[Rasul] Ecospiritulity = Way of Life, al-Masjid al-Haraam

[Light] Green Anarchism = School of Thought (Earth Jurisprudence)

           Social Ecology = Naturalist Society

           Green Politics = Naturalist Party

           Ecopreneurship = Sustainable Economy

           Ecoschool = Environmental Philosophy

           Ecotechnology

           Green Syndicalism = mental and debt-free society

and many more under the heading of GREENISM, huge topics and a complete system of governance.


....SUPPORT ONE ANOTHER (NATURALIST PARTY) with the truth/natural justice, and SUPPORT ONE ANOTHER with perseverance/2:151/sustainable economy (103:3)







Following the message needs perseverance, patience and UNITY brother. Then all the believers may succeed -3:200-

Unity with Satan (moral relativism) is the path to success?  beLIEvers? :rotfl:



SATANISM: "...The reason that there is no access to absolute morals is obvious: there is no (good!) god!..."


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Re: God wants Spiritual Fruits, NOT RELIGIOUS NUTS
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2021, 08:04:04 AM »
Brother! Satan comes in disguises and corrupts people s religions/beliefs and spreads evil on earth making them think it is good.
Satan tells them GOD is not in control and Man can destroy the earth  regardless of GOD s plan!!!
GOD creates and destroys according to His will and knowledge. Only GOD has the power to initiate creation and ends it.
Are you sure your beliefs are immune from Satan?

While you think you can save the earth, who is going to help you when GOD sends his judgement and destroys it?
If you believe,this should not worry you as GOD will create for you a better one.

Your choice though .
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Re: God wants Spiritual Fruits, NOT RELIGIOUS NUTS
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2021, 08:33:18 AM »
Brother! Satan comes in disguises and corrupts people s religions/beliefs and spreads evil on earth making them think it is good.
Satan tells them GOD is not in control and Man can destroy the earth  regardless of GOD s plan!!!
GOD creates and destroys according to His will and knowledge. Only GOD has the power to initiate creation and ends it.
Are you sure your beliefs are immune from Satan?

While you think you can save the earth, who is going to help you when GOD sends his judgement and destroys it?
If you believe,this should not worry you as GOD will create for you a better one.

Your choice though .


Why would a naturalist need a "BELIEF"?  :rotfl:

We don't have any "BELIEF!" lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uxhc0mq_c48



You are so deluded, and can't even answer any of the issues



They will be bundled into it head first, they and the misled, and every one of Iblis´s regiments.  Arguing in it with one another, they will say, ´By Allah / Sunntullah / Law of Nature / Moral Universalism, we were plainly misguided when We equated you/MORAL RELATIVISM with the Lord/LAW of all the worlds (SUNNATULLAH, MORAL UNIVERSALISM, LAW OF NATURE, NATURAL LAW, NATURAL JUSTICE).´ (26:94-98)



“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'​m not sure about the universe.” Albert Einstein

Allah made this an enduring word remaining among Ibrahim's descendants/3:33-34/42 that they might unite/3:64-68 (43:28) It is not for you to guide them. God guides whomever He wills (2:272) You surely cannot guide whoever you like, but it is Allah Who guides whoever He wills, and He knows best who are fit to be guided/5:54. (28:56) So turn away from them and wait. (32:30) Your only duty is to deliver the message clearly (16:82, 14:4, 4:82)



So be whatever you want for I'm 1,000% certain as the MESSENGER of the WAY OF ALLAH / SUNNATULLAH / LAW OF NATURE / NATURAL LAW / NATURAL JUSTICE... PROVEN THROUGH FACT, AND NO GUESSWORK / ASSUMPTION / OPINION!




Why should I even care about your nonsense/moral relativism/insanity?  :rotfl:

Pure Theory of Natural Law




You know very well that they do not speak! (21:65, 4:146)

I swear by your Lord that they will not be considered believers/muslims until they let YOU/3:64-68/2:130/16:161-162 judge/75:19+11:17+4:82=10:47/42:51-53 their disputes and then they will find nothing in their souls to prevent them from accepting your judgment, thus, submitting themselves to the will of God (4:65, 9:80, 22:78)


It is a promise binding on Us. That is what We will do. (21:104) You can ask forgiveness for them, or not ask forgiveness for them. Even if you asked forgiveness for them seventy times, Allah still would not forgive them. That is because they have rejected Allah and His Messenger. Allah does not guide deviant people. (9:80)

On the Day We will say to Hell, "Are you full?" And it will say, "Are there some more?" (50:30) On that Day those who disbelieved and disobeyed the Messenger will wish that they were level with the earth, and they will conceal no account from God. (4:42)

SEE? not my issue/FUTURE...  >:D



Those who flow as life flows know they need no other force.

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Re: God wants Spiritual Fruits, NOT RELIGIOUS NUTS
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2021, 09:37:26 AM »
While you think you can save the earth, who is going to help you when GOD sends his judgement and destroys it?

WHO? What is this nonsense?

Save Earth / preservation of life of all living things = Go to hell?  :rotfl:

Why should (any) God (whatsoever) punish you if you become thankful [We have established you firmly on the earth and granted you your livelihood in it. What little thanks you show! 7:10] and believe in Him (Nature's God and the Law of Nature / Natural Justice)? (4:147)

THE DEFINITION OF SATAN/6:112/26:221-227



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXYiU_JCYtU

When a community among them said, ´Why do you give advice to people who God will destroy or punish with a severe suffering?´ They would answer, ´In order to be free from blame [The earth is not dying, it is being killed, and those who are killing it have names and addresses] before your Lord and so that these might become conscious of Him.´ (Quran 7:164)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnDho-pYLm8

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Re: God wants Spiritual Fruits, NOT RELIGIOUS NUTS
« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2021, 11:25:55 AM »
So you do not know that GOD will end this life? You do not believe all will come to an end including seas ,mountains ,  everything on earth and earth itself?
 So you do not believe GOD will create a new earth after that?

Or do you think  people will destroy it ?
You want  your kind of "believers" to help you save it?

Just  ask people to look in the mirror and change their ways brother. This is the same message I ask. 
However you and me need to do the same.
Are you uniting with me?
That is the spirit.
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Re: God wants Spiritual Fruits, NOT RELIGIOUS NUTS
« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2021, 11:40:14 AM »
You must be blind... so open your eyes and read again....

In order to be free from blame [The earth is not dying, it is being killed, and those who are killing it have names and addresses] before your Lord´ (Quran 7:164)

The crime: Killing planet Earth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrzbRZn5Ed4

Shall We treat the Muslims like the CRIMINALS? (68:35)




Obey them, be muSHRIK (6:121, 58:14, 4:143)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T79JfuisG_8


So why would I want to be IBLEES/18:50 (CENTRIST)?



Why do I need to unite with insanity and satan?  those who are already destined for Hell? reason? :rotfl:

Can you rescue those already in the Fire? (39:19)

When Allah misguides someone, you shall never find a way for him. (4:88)






You are a man of great moral character (68:4)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xT8VMUBM7KA