Author Topic: COVID 19 Alarmism & Hoaxes - How Islamic is the West, Really?  (Read 694 times)

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This is my umpteen attempt at doing this post. In March 2020, I was in the middle of a proffessional training when covid hysteria began. Eventually I was forced to suspend my training in compliance with the lockdown regulations. My pals and I thought that within a month, life would return to normal. Because, for all the threat the virus poses, it is a self-limiting disease, the death victims are predominantly geriatrics or immune compromised populations and the fatality rate is on par with common flu.

By April 2020, the lockdown still persisted. And I was forced to proceed my training online, costing me months of crucial on-site experience that I could not obtain online. For this reason, I take the Covid - 19 alarmists & their hoaxes very personal. They've screwed me of my time, my money and several opportunities by enforcing lock down on an infection that could easily be controlled by safety mask or hand gloves.

Unlike early 2020, today if you look to Google search for alternative sources debunking the scare mongering and alarmism on this virus, you won't find anything. Any attempt to inform people that the virus is no where near as dangerous as we are told and that lock down is unnecessary is now deemed misinformation and censored by the legacy media and social media.

We say that "No. This is a violation of freedom of speech, people should be free to air their opinion on the virus." They, the neo-liberals and regressive left, the face of the modern west reply, "It's OK to violate their freedom of speech in order to prevent spreading misinformation that cause infection & death."

We say, "Well, if they're spreading misinformation, it is for us to learn their 'misinformation' and decide wether to accept it or not. If your response to your detractors is ban or censor, it is highly likely that the evidence line against you, and that you have ulterior motives.' This to me is the obvious reality when it pertain to COVID - 19. There have been and there remain alterior motives by the West to maintain public fear of Covid-19 and keep people at home.

And I will get into these ulterior motives at once.
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Re: COVID 19 Alarmism & Hoaxes - How Islamic is the West, Really?
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2021, 03:31:11 AM »
Money, Money, & Money Again

I've said it before, there is no charity in the west. Money is the root of every major policy of the west. From the American Civil Right movement, to the Middle East Wars, to Mass Immigration, Multiculturalism, Diversity, Identity politics and now Covid - 19. At the start of the lockdown, we were told that it would last only a couple weeks. Big Tech companies at that point were recovering from huge revenue losses.

What the lockdown did for the Big Tech was drive up demand for their product and services, since small businesses were forced to shut down. So, while the rest of us were trapped at home, losing our jobs and income, more than ever Big companies were raking in huge dollars. Is it any surprise that any attempt to expose the scam behind the virus and all the west's policies surrounding it is censored by Big Tech?

At the same time the Big Tech were doubling and tripling their profits, the government, retail markets and health establishments were earning quick buck on face masks, handgloves, sanitizers and unnecessary covid tests.

Anti-Trumpism

President Trump confirmed earlier on that coronavirus was no more deadly than the flu, that the lockdown were unnecessary, and that hyroxychloroquine can be used to treat it. That was quite early 2020, when the consensus of the medical community on the virus was still unclear. May be the last claim haven't aged well, but the first two have.

Now, because these claims were coming from Trump, the punchbag of the pseudo-liberal, regressive leftwing media and public, insisting on the threat of covid and the necessity of lockdown became the "progressive" or "liberal" thing to do. And so regardless of the devastating consequences of the Covid Hoax and Lockdown, till date, the left wing media carried on in the name of opposing Trump.

2020 US Elections

As I've noted, the Big Tech immensely benefit financially from lockdown. FAMAG - FaceBook, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple & Google all form part of the coalition for the US Left. Much of the profit that they raked in from lockdown naturally went into funding the US left wing electoral campaign. It fully explains why the lockdown that was suppose to last only few weeks of 2020 lasted the entire year and still persist till date.

The only exception for the lockdown were the Black Lives Matter protests. It seem contradictory that the mainstream media and the left encouraged these protest while enforcing lockdown and social distancing everywhere else. But it isn't. The BLM is a pro-leftist bandwagon whose protests amplify the narratives of the political left and more or less serve as campaign rallies for the left. The BLM rioting destroyed small businesses, which increases demand for the big corporations who often support the Left, the BLM received donations which directly or indirectly support the leftist causes.

Conclusion

So, I want to link all these back to the title of this post. What is known as the west today, isn't anymore Islamic than the middle eastern countries. Any country or regime that invent a health crisis, enforce policies regarding it to deprive people of their livelihood & freedom of movement thereby enriching the rich & impoverishing the poor, while suppressing dissenting views and opinions cannot be Islamic.

Peace.
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Re: COVID 19 Alarmism & Hoaxes - How Islamic is the West, Really?
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2021, 08:49:52 AM »
peace, you're young think the world is out to fool you?

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Deaths: 3,103,783

you don't want to catch the virus, doctors are not dumb!

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/ted-nugent-positive-coronavirus-diagnosis

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Re: COVID 19 Alarmism & Hoaxes - How Islamic is the West, Really?
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2021, 09:41:03 AM »
peace, you're young think the world is out to fool you?

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Deaths: 3,103,783

you don't want to catch the virus, doctors are not dumb!

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/ted-nugent-positive-coronavirus-diagnosis

Which doctor? Tell me, Noon. Will any doctor at this rate be allowed to present dissenting opinion on the severity of the infection? When ever I present my opinion on line, I get censored.

Do the Maths, the mortality rate of the virus is 3,103,783/146,676,525 * 1000 = 21.

That is, if you contact the virus, you have just a very slim probability of death, about 0.021.

People who die or suffer during their infection are geriatrics or immuno-compromised folks, not regular folks. I say this from experience.
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Re: COVID 19 Alarmism & Hoaxes - How Islamic is the West, Really?
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2021, 10:13:33 AM »
Which doctor? Tell me, Noon. Will any doctor at this rate be allowed to present dissenting opinion on the severity of the infection? When ever I present my opinion on line, I get censored.

Do the Maths, the mortality rate of the virus is 3,103,783/146,676,525 * 1000 = 21.

That is, if you contact the virus, you have just a very slim probability of death, about 0.021.

People who die or suffer during their infection are geriatrics or immuno-compromised folks, not regular folks. I say this from experience.

3,105,683/146,746,504 = ~2% kill rate

https://epidemic-stats.com/

define "regular folks" e.g., family members?

what percentage still recovering with issues?

Brazilians, Mexicans, et al making stuff up?


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Re: COVID 19 Alarmism & Hoaxes - How Islamic is the West, Really?
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2021, 11:58:05 AM »
The evidence suggests doctors are in fact very, very, very dumb, that's not in relation to only the covid scamdemic, but across the entire medical system, this model of quackery was begun by Rockefeller and his fellow psychopaths around 140 years ago, to form a medical monopoly, based not on healing people but on masking symptoms, a healed victim ends the revenue stream, when the medical quackery have gone on strike the death rate drops by around 50%, this is how shit the quackery medical model is, if you'd like to consider the real nature of medicine here's a link:

https://earthcoinage.com/the-nature-of-the-hospital-system/

If you want to learn about the scamdemic:

https://earthcoinage.com/a-pandemic-myth-using-germ-boogeyman-for-totalitarian-control/

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Re: COVID 19 Alarmism & Hoaxes - How Islamic is the West, Really?
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2021, 10:56:10 PM »
The evidence suggests doctors are in fact very, very, very dumb

8:22 ان indeed شر worst الدواب the creatures عند near/with الله the god الصم the deaf البكم the dumb الذىن the ones لا not ىعقلون reasoning

25:63 وعبد and devotees الرحمن the almighty الذىن the ones ىمشون walking على upon الارض the land هونا humble of واذا and when of خاطبهم address them الجهلون the ignorant being قالوا said they of سلما salaman/peace!


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Re: COVID 19 Alarmism & Hoaxes - How Islamic is the West, Really?
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2021, 01:40:58 AM »
Trump confirmed he was intentionally downplaying the virus despite knowing it was deadly. His audio recording here:

https://youtu.be/gBwwgMj-ewI

MSM should have been allowed to show graphic scenes from the hospitals. Now we are getting those from India: https://youtu.be/PmV631kroUU

They could have saved people if only they had enough medical resources. That's one of reasons behind lockdown. We don't want to overwhelm our hospitals.

For an honest analysis on the virus, look for the 2020 feb videos here:

https://www.youtube.com/user/ChrisMartensondotcom

It took a lot of time for msm to catch up with what he was concluding. 

I must still say the financial issues are the result of policies that aren't compatible with this kind of crisis.

Western governments are being clueless about that. China went lenient during their lockdown. Government officials did grocery for the people. Some places received cooked foods. People were even allowed to use creativity to run their businesses. That's why, their economy didn't suffer much.
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Re: COVID 19 Alarmism & Hoaxes - How Islamic is the West, Really?
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2021, 04:46:30 AM »
Before you make a comment on a topic "reel" and "Noon waalqalami", the first thing to do is get informed, that does not mean simply watching the television news, which has no obligation to present the truth, which has been repeatedly proven in court, they are only entertainment and as such can tell you what ever utter crap they like, the responsibility is on your shoulders to investigate for yourself, "BEFORE" you post comments, comment not from a position of ignorance, but one of consideration, I gave you a link with lots and lots of information all linked to sources, but instead of considering evidence, you simply spout nonsense filling up the thread with pointless crap.

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« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2021, 08:58:33 PM »
Before you make a comment on a topic "reel" and "Noon waalqalami", the first thing to do is get informed, that does not mean simply watching the television news, which has no obligation to present the truth, which has been repeatedly proven in court, they are only entertainment and as such can tell you what ever utter crap they like, the responsibility is on your shoulders to investigate for yourself, "BEFORE" you post comments, comment not from a position of ignorance, but one of consideration, I gave you a link with lots and lots of information all linked to sources, but instead of considering evidence, you simply spout nonsense filling up the thread with pointless crap.

Sure I have nothing to do with healthcare and this forum has no posts from me against msm.
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