Quote from: Jafar on October 21, 2021, 11:42:58 AM
Both Jesus and Mohammad never wrote any book.
One better wondered why it's so...
If they see it as something that is very important they will definitely make it as their topmost priority.
The books about Jesus was written many years after the actual event.
And so does the Quran.
And both Jesus and Mohammad never did any review of the material.
The official bundle of the Quran was initially published and approved by a Caliph.
The official bundle of the Gospels was initially published and approved by an Emperor.
Better wondered why it's so either...
Why a Caliph and Emperor see that it is very important to write such books.
Jesus never read the Gospel in the same manner as Mohammad never read the Quran.
Jesus did read the Tanakh scrolls yet there are stories about his childhood where he disagree with many of it's content.
Better wondered why it's so either..
Why did Jesus did not fear the 'wrath of YHVH' as it was popularly believed during his time that the Tanakh was 'the words of God'.
1. "The books about Jesus was written many years after the actual event."
Response: That's factually incorrect on one hand, vague on another.
First point is this: I can always tell when someone has not read the Bible from cover-to-cover, but they want to make out they know what they are talking about. Do you think that's an honest and intelligent approach to a subject you do not know the first thing about?
Second, your statement is vague because you've not defined "many years". Give a number and your statement MAY make sense.
It's factually incorrect. In the first century Papias, a hearer of John and an early Church father, relates that Matthew wrote an Aramaic or Hebrew version of his Gospel with 7 years of Jesus' crucifixion. Papias also wrote, "But I shall not be unwilling to put down, along with my interpretations, whatsoever instructions I received with care at any time from the elders, and stored up with care in my memory, assuring you at the same time of their truth. For I did not, like the multitude, take pleasure in those who spoke much, but in those who taught the truth; nor in those who related strange commandments, but in those who rehearsed the commandments given by the Lord to faith, and proceeding from truth itself. If, then, any one who had attended on the elders came, I asked minutely after their sayings – what Andrew or Peter said, or what was said by Philip, or by Thomas, or by James, or by John, or by Matthew, or by any other of the Lord's disciples, [and] which things Aristion and the presbyter John, the disciples of the Lord, say. For I imagined that what was to be got from books was not so profitable to me as what came from the living and abiding voice."
The Gospel writer and doctor, Luke, introducing his gospel with this: "Inasmuch as many have taken in hand to set in order a narrative of those things which have been fulfilled among us, just as those who from the beginning were eyewitnesses and ministers of the word delivered them to us, it seemed good to me also, having had perfect understanding of all things from the very first, to write to you an orderly account, most excellent Theophilus, that you may know the certainty of those things in which you were instructed."
To those untrained in ancient historiography this won't impress you. For those who have some training it is history writing of the highest order.
2. "The official bundle of the Quran was initially published and approved by a Caliph."
Response: You left out the important fact that he also ordered the destruction of every manuscript he did not want to survive. However, some escaped his order and that is why we have over 30 different Korans in ARABIC today.
3. "The official bundle of the Gospels was initially published and approved by an Emperor."
Response: First, you failed to provide any evidence to support this claim.
Second, it's actually false as we have a mountain of evidence going back to the FIRST CENTURY which falsifies your undocumented thought bubble (or just another meme from an idiotic and uneducated website you've cut and pasted it from).
4. "Jesus never read the Gospel in the same manner as Mohammad never read the Quran."
Response: I have no idea what you mean here. No idea!
5. Jesus did read the Tanakh scrolls yet there are stories about his childhood where he disagree with many of it's content."
Response: I, again, have no idea what you're saying. Furthermore, you give no examples and no evidence for your thought bubble. Do you want to try again?
6. "Why did Jesus did not fear the 'wrath of YHVH' as it was popularly believed during his time that the Tanakh was 'the words of God'."
Response: Again, I have no idea what you're trying to say.
