The Bible is the best written book there is. It’s not the quran

[good logic]

Peace John.
I get my information about Jesus from both the bible and Qoran. And from studying/researching/comparing all information about Jesus in every other source I find.
GOD bless you.
Peace.

[John]

Peace John.
I get my information about Jesus from both the bible and Qoran. And from studying/researching/comparing all information about Jesus in every other source I find.
GOD bless you.
Peace.

But the name Issa does not appear in the Bible and the name Jesus does not appear in the Koran. Obviously Issa and Jesus are 2 different persons.

The Koran's Issa has nothing in common with the Bible's Yeshua, so, again, we are talking about 2 different persons.

[John]

Peace John.
I get my information about Jesus from both the bible and Qoran. And from studying/researching/comparing all information about Jesus in every other source I find.
GOD bless you.
Peace.

And like I said previously, God gave a really rational guide to test to see if someone is a false prophet: Test their status by the previous revelation. By that standard Muhammad is clearly a false prophet and the Koran is false revelation. After all, Muhammad is never prophesied in the Bible, except for guaranteeing he's a false prophet. After all, Jesus said, "Be very careful that no one deceives you. Many are going to come in my name and say, 'I am he', and will lead many astray." (Mark 13) Muslims love to tell you that Muhammad is the prophet spoken about in various verses in the Bible, but he clearly is not. And that's why the Lord warned us ahead of time that evil men like Muhammad would come and claim to be from God.

[jkhan]

And like I said previously, God gave a really rational guide to test to see if someone is a false prophet:  :rotfl:Test their status by the previous revelation. By that standard Muhammad is clearly a false prophet and the Koran is false revelation. After all, Muhammad is never prophesied in the Bible, except for guaranteeing he's a false prophet. After all, Jesus said, "Be very careful that no one deceives you. Many are going to come in my name and say, 'I am he', and will lead many astray." (Mark 13) Muslims love to tell you that Muhammad is the prophet spoken about in various verses in the Bible, but he clearly is not. And that's why the Lord warned us ahead of time that evil men like Muhammad would come and claim to be from God.

So funny... That's what happened to Jesus.. You know what happened to him among jewish community for the ancient community up until current Israelite people... If you don't know let me remind you... They say Jesus was a false messenger, a liar,  betrayer.. Just browse in YouTube and see the views of current day isreal people on Jesus..

They don't care about him at all... The reason Jesus was crucified is is is is?  What?  The same reason for what you blaspheme on Mohamed.. 

So if the Christians doesn't care about the people of Quran.. It doesn't matter.. That's the pattern of the evil people after knowing the truth...

Jews even said there won't be any prophet after their prophet.. 

Okay Mohamed was tested by Bible verses in which half of human infusion.. And tested positive.. 

Well.. Now mohamed was positive and he is exposed as false messenger..

Wait a minute... So you accept that Jesus was a prophet himself.. 
So prophets after him will come and be careful... O man.. You are checked.. 

[good logic]

Peace John

You say quote:

"But the name Issa does not appear in the Bible and the name Jesus does not appear in the Koran. Obviously Issa and Jesus are 2 different persons.
The Koran's Issa has nothing in common with the Bible's Yeshua, so, again, we are talking about 2 different persons.

Some names are different in different languages-like Jesus English /Yeshua  Hebrew and Isa Arabic. Similarly Meriem Arabic and Mary English, .
Sometimes the names is the same in different languages like Zachariah in both English, Hebrew and Arabic.

"Jesus's name was probably Yeshua, which is the Hebrew origin of his name. The Greek translation was "Iesous" which found it's way to the Latin "Iesus " and then to "Jesus" in English. Greek and Latin of the day did not have a hard "j" sound. "Isa" is the Arabic translation of "Yeshua.".
Quote:
"There is a major discrepancy between the Hebrew/Aramaic and Muslim Arabic forms of this name, since the Hebrew form of this name has the voiced pharyngeal ʿAyin ע‎ or ʿAyn ع consonant at the end of the name (as does Christian Arabic يسوع yasūʿ), while the Muslim Arabic form عيسى ʿīsā has the ʿAyn at the beginning of the name.it is also similar in the vowels to an Aramaic version of Jesus, viz. Eeshoʿ (Aramaic forms of the name, however, still have the voiced pharyngeal `Ayn consonant at the end of the name).[3] [Other Aramaic pronunciations of the same name include yeshuuʕ (ʕ is IPA ayin). Vowels in Semitic languages are somewhat fluid between dialects while consonants are structurally more stable. The vowels in an Anglicized quote "Eesho`" by themselves are insignificant for this discussion since "i" and "e" and short "a" can interchange between dialects, and "u" and "o" can also interchange between dialects. The dominant consonsonantal discrepancy remains, between Aramaic yeshuuʕ [consonantal y-sh-w-ʕ] and Arabic ʕiisa [consonantal ʕ-y-s-alef].]

Yes, even the Arabic Christian have a different name for Jesus- Yasu_.
GOD bless you.
Peace.

[Noon waalqalami]

But the name Issa does not appear in the Bible

peace, see Codex Sinaiticus
https://codexsinaiticus.org/en/manuscript.aspx?book=34&lid=en&side=r&zoomSlider=0

https://biblehub.com/lexicon/mark/1-1.htm
Ἰησου (iēsou)

http://earlychristianwritings.com/

[John]

Just browse in YouTube and see the views of current day isreal people on Jesus..

I've lived in Israel for lengthy periods of time. There are 1000's of Jews there who know Yeshua is the Messiah and is God. You won't know this because you have never lived there.

Yes, I know what's on You Tube and here is an example of why you are wrong about Jews and Yeshua: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQdRRd_y40w and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeBz1qLlGnc
and this ESPECIALLY  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGz9BVJ_k6s

and here's a site: https://jewsforjesus.org/

[jkhan]

I've lived in Israel for lengthy periods of time. There are 1000's of Jews there who know Yeshua is the Messiah and is God. You won't know this because you have never lived there.

Yes, I know what's on You Tube and here is an example of why you are wrong about Jews and Yeshua: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQdRRd_y40w and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeBz1qLlGnc
and this ESPECIALLY  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGz9BVJ_k6s

and here's a site: https://jewsforjesus.org/

Oh really...
Just watch this neutral video in which common people speak about Jesus Yshua. 

Why did they crucify him then 

https://youtu.be/UCUxTFt8pB0

[John]

peace, see Codex Sinaiticus
https://codexsinaiticus.org/en/manuscript.aspx?book=34&lid=en&side=r&zoomSlider=0

https://biblehub.com/lexicon/mark/1-1.htm
Ἰησου (iēsou)

http://earlychristianwritings.com/

I am not quite sure I understand your argument, but I'll give it a go.

You claim that the name Issa, the Islamic name for Yeshua, is mentioned in the Bible for the name Jesus. I say it is isn't. If anything it is a corruption of Yeshua's name, but it is not Yeshua's name, for the following reason:

Is it not true that before there were Arab Muslims there were Arab Christians? Obviously so. Therefore, how do Arab Christians say Yeshua's name? Here's how: يسوع المسيح (Yasou' Al Maseeh), which looks nothing like or sounds like Isa.

1. You quote Mark 1:2, "As it is written in Isaiah the prophet". You do realise that Isaiah was a Jewish prophet who lived 800 years before Yeshua? So Isaiah CANNOT be Yeshua. In any case, I really don't understand why you would think this has anything to do with my point that the Isa of Islam is the same as the Yeshua of the New Testament.

2. The Greek didn't have a letter capturing the sound a 'yod' makes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_alphabet. English can signify it by either the 'y' or 'j'. The Greeks had to make with what they had, and thus the name Yeshua in Greek sounds like this: https://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/the/greek-word-for-798ca75ea11a75abbe770a347d98f7dcdda321a4.html

3. I have no idea why you provided a link to all the Early Christian Writings. (Maybe you should read them, as I have, and understood that the EARLIEST Christians stated that Yeshua was crucified, rose from the dead and was God. There goes the facile Muslim claim that the Bible was altered.)

BTW, from your site, here's what Polycarp (AD 69-155), the bishop at the church in Smyrna, a disciple of Jesus' disciple John, stated in his Letter to the Philippians:

"Now may the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, and the eternal high priest himself, the Son of God Jesus Christ, build you up in faith and truth...and to us with you, and to all those under heaven who will yet believe in our Lord and God Jesus Christ and in his Father who raised him from the dead."

or what about Ignatius (AD 50-117), also a disciple of John: "There is only one physician, who is both flesh and spirit, born and unborn, God in man, true life in death, both from Mary and from God, first subject to suffering and then beyond it, Jesus Christ our Lord...For our God, Jesus the Christ, was conceived by Mary according to God's plan, both from the seed of David and of the Holy Spirit...Consequently all magic and every kind of spell were dissolved, the ignorance so characteristic of wickedness vanished, and the ancient kingdom was abolished when God appeared in human form to bring the newness of eternal life."

[John]

The reason Jesus was crucified is is is is?  What? 

If you'd read the Bible you'd have seen the reason from Jesus' words. In John 3 he states: "If I have spoken to you about things which happen on this earth and you will not believe me, what chance is there that you will believe me if I tell you about what happens in Heaven? No one has ever been up to Heaven except the Son of Man who came down from Heaven. The Son of Man must be lifted above the heads of men—as Moses lifted up that serpent in the desert—so that any man who believes in him may have eternal life. For God loved the world so much that he gave his only Son, so that every one who believes in him shall not be lost, but should have eternal life. You must understand that God has not sent his Son into the world to pass sentence upon it, but to save it—through him. Any man who believes in him is not judged at all. It is the one who will not believe who stands already condemned, because he will not believe in the character of God's only Son."

Here's the serpent and Moses incident that Jesus was referring to: "The king of Arad, the Canaanite, who dwelt in the South, heard that Israel was coming on the road to Atharim. Then he fought against Israel and took some of them prisoners. So Israel made a vow to the Lord, and said, "If You will indeed deliver this people into my hand, then I will utterly destroy their cities." And the Lord listened to the voice of Israel and delivered up the Canaanites, and they utterly destroyed them and their cities. So the name of that place was called Hormah.

"Then they journeyed from Mount Hor by the Way of the Red Sea, to go around the land of Edom; and the soul of the people became very discouraged on the way. And the people spoke against God and against Moses: "Why have you brought us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? For there is no food and no water, and our soul loathes this worthless bread." So the Lord sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and many of the people of Israel died. Therefore the people came to Moses, and said, "We have sinned, for we have spoken against the Lord and against you; pray to the Lord that He take away the serpents from us." So Moses prayed for the people. Then the Lord said to Moses, "Make a fiery serpent, and set it on a pole; and it shall be that everyone who is bitten, when he looks at it, shall live." So Moses made a bronze serpent, and put it on a pole; and so it was, if a serpent had bitten anyone, when he looked at the bronze serpent, he lived." (Numbers 21, in the 4th book of Moses' Torah)

The image of the bronze serpent would save the sinners, as the Lord God had decreed. Similarly, looking to the cross and Jesus being crucified saves us sinners, as the Lord God has decreed.

Your choice: your way or God's way. I know which way brings eternal life.