pregnancy weaning time calculations

[Noon waalqalami]

peace, want to clarify since some wrongly advocate abortion before 6 months.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preterm_birth
"In 2014, Lyla Stensrud, born in San Antonio, Texas, U.S. became the youngest premature baby in the world. She was born at 21 weeks 4 days and weighed 410 grams (less than a pound). Kaashif Ahmad resuscitated the baby after she was born."

https://www.livescience.com/65602-worlds-tiniest-baby-saybie.html
"Saybie was born via cesarean section at just 23 weeks and 3 days gestation"



https://www.verywell.com/worlds-smallest-preemies-2748663
"Born September 4, 2004, Rumasia Rahman is currently the worlds smallest premature baby to have survived from birth until hospital discharge.
Rumasia and her fraternal twin sister Hiba were born at 25.6 weeks gestation, just over 15 weeks before their due date. At birth, Rumasia weighed just 260 grams, or 8.6 ounces—about the size of a small cell phone. She was 9.8 inches long. Rumasias twin sister Hiba was more than twice her size, at 1 lb 4 oz and 12 inches long."

http://www.newhealthguide.org/Longest-Pregnancy.html
"In 1945, for example, Beulah Hunter who was 25 at the time gave birth after a pregnancy lasting 375 days, almost 100 days more than the average human gestational period. The length of the pregnancy was confirmed by examining her pregnancy test and menstrual cycle. Doctors feel that the long pregnancy was because the child developed extremely slowly in the womb when compared to the average child but despite this, Hunters daughter, named Penny Diana was healthy and normal at birth. "

These words refer to the same thing, time-frame/year depending on usage.

عام amin/year, if referring to individual year/s time-frame  ...
2:259 قال said بل rather لبثت remain thou ماىه hundred عام amin/year
9:28 بعد after عامهم amihim/year theirs
9:37 ىحلونه allowing it عاما aman/year of
9:126  ىفتنون tested being فى in كل each عام amin/year
12:49  من from بعد after ذلك such عام amun/year فىه in it
29:14 الا except خمسىن group of (50) عاما aman/year of (not sequence 1,2,3, ..., 50)
31:14  فى in/within (< less than) عامىن amayni/year two

سنه sanatin/year, if referring to a time-frame/duration ...
2:96, 29:14, 32:5 الف thousand (1,000) سنه sanatin/year time-frame (millennium)
5:26, 46:15 اربعىن group of (40) سنه sanatan/year time-frame/duration (4 decades)
70:4 خمسىن group of (50) الف thousand سنه sanatin/year time-frame (50 millennia)

سنىن sinina/years (pl.), if referring 3+ years successive ...
12:47 سبع seven (7) سنىن sinina/years sequence (1,2,3,4,5,6,7)
10:5 لتعلموا to know ye of عدد number السنىن l-sinina/the years
18:25 ثلث three ماىه hundred سنىن sinina/years sequence (1,2,3, ... ,300)

31:14 ووصىنا and instruct we of الانسن the humankind بولدىه with parents his (said person) حملته hamalathu/carry she him امه mother his وهنا weakness of على upon وهن weakness وفصاله wafisaluhu/and separation his فى in/within (< less than) عامىن amayni/year two ان that اشكر be thankful لى to me ولولدىك and to parents your الى to me المصىر the destiny

46:15 ووصىنا and instruct we of الانسن the humankind بولدىه with parents his (said person) حسنا best (goodness) of حملته hamalathu/carry she him امه mother his كرها dislike of/unwillingly ووضعته and gave birth him كرها dislike of/unwillingly وحمله wahamluhu/and carry his وفصاله wafisaluhu/and separation his ثلثون thirty (30) شهرا shahran/moon cycle of حتى until اذا when of بلغ reach اشده vigor his وبلغ and reach اربعىن group of (40) سنه sanatan/year time-frame قال said رب lord اوزعنى grants me ان that اشكر I thank نعمتك favor your التى the one انعمت favors thou على upon me وعلى and upon ولدى parents mine وان and that اعمل I work صلحا righteous of ترضه please you واصلح and reconciles لى for me فى in ذرىتى progeny mine انى indeed I تبت perish الىك to you وانى and indeed I من of المسلمىن those acquiescent

I believe refers to solar year throughout (more simple), these are calculations for solar and lunar:

p = pregnancy time/carry his (variable)
w = weaning time/separation his (variable)
w < 730.484397562 days [31:14 (730.484397562 days i.e. < 2 solar years)] If year = solar

885.9177 days – p < 730.484397562 days [46:15 30 x (lunar months / day) = 885.9177 days]
p = 885.9177 days – 730.484397562 days = 155.4333+ days

30 shr   = pregnancy| pregnancy| pregnancy   +   weaning|   weaning|   weaning   
(days)   # of days| # of weeks| mts (lunar)       # of days| # of weeks| mts (lunar)   
         
885.92   =   147.65   21.09   5.00   +   738.26   105.47   25.00   < amayni (solar) 730.5 days = False
885.92   =   151.00   21.57   5.11   +   734.92   104.99   24.89   baby Lyla < 730.5 days = False
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885.92   =   155.92   22.27   5.28   +   730.00   104.29   24.72   < amayni (solar) 730.5 days = True
885.92   =   164.00   23.43   5.55   +   721.92   103.13   24.45   baby Saybie < 730.5 days = True
885.92   =   177.18   25.31   6.00   +   708.73   101.25   24.00   < amayni (solar) 730.5 days = True
885.92   =   179.20   25.60   6.07   +   706.72   100.96   23.93   Rumasia and Hiba < 730.5 days = True
885.92   =   206.71   29.53   7.00   +   679.20   97.03   23.00   
885.92   =   236.24   33.75   8.00   +   649.67   92.81   22.00   
885.92   =   265.78   37.97   9.00   +   620.14   88.59   21.00   average pregnancy < 730.5 days = True
885.92   =   295.31   42.19   10.00   +   590.61   84.37   20.00   
885.92   =   324.84   46.41   11.00   +   561.08   80.15   19.00   
885.92   =   354.37   50.62   12.00   +   531.55   75.94   18.00   
885.92   =   375.04   53.58   12.70   +   510.88   72.98   17.30   baby Penny


p = pregnancy time/carry his (variable)
w = weaning time/separation his (variable)
w < 708.73416 days [31:14 (708.73416 days i.e. < 2 lunar years)] If year = lunar

885.9177 days – p < 708.73416 days [46:15 30 x (lunar months / day) = 885.9177 days]
p = 885.9177 days – 708.73416 days = 177.186+ days

30 shr   = pregnancy| pregnancy| pregnancy   +   weaning|   weaning|   weaning   
(days)   # of days| # of weeks| mts (lunar)       # of days| # of weeks| mts (lunar)   
         
885.92   =   147.65   21.09   5.00   +   738.26   105.47   25.00   < amayni (lunar) 708.73 days = False
885.92   =   151.00   21.57   5.11   +   734.92   104.99   24.89   baby Lyla < 708.73 days = False
885.92   =   155.92   22.27   5.28   +   730.00   104.29   24.72   < amayni (lunar) 708.73 days = False
885.92   =   164.00   23.43   5.55   +   721.92   103.13   24.45   baby Saybie < 708.73 days = False
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885.92   =   177.18   25.31   6.00   +   708.73   101.25   24.00   < amayni (lunar) 708.73 days = True
885.92   =   179.20   25.60   6.07   +   706.72   100.96   23.93   Rumasia and Hiba < 708.73 days = True
885.92   =   206.71   29.53   7.00   +   679.20   97.03   23.00
885.92   =   236.24   33.75   8.00   +   649.67   92.81   22.00   
885.92   =   265.78   37.97   9.00   +   620.14   88.59   21.00   average pregnancy < 708.73 days = True
885.92   =   295.31   42.19   10.00   +   590.61   84.37   20.00   
885.92   =   324.84   46.41   11.00   +   561.08   80.15   19.00   
885.92   =   354.37   50.62   12.00   +   531.55   75.94   18.00   
885.92   =   375.04   53.58   12.70   +   510.88   72.98   17.30   baby Penny

21 weeks + 4 days = 151 days = 5.11334 lunar months pregnancy time
If lunar year baby Lyla requires 24.00 months (30 – 6.00 minimum) breastfeeding
If solar year baby Lyla requires 24.72 months (30 – 5.28 minimum) breastfeeding

23 weeks + 3 days = 164 days = 5.55357 lunar months pregnancy time
If lunar year baby Saybie requires 24.00 months (30 – 6.00 minimum) breastfeeding
If solar year baby Saybie requires 24.45 months (30 – 5.55 minimum) breastfeeding

25.6 weeks x 7 days = 179.2 days = 6.068286 lunar months pregnancy time
If lunar/solar year Rumasia and twin sister Hiba require slightly less < 24 months (30 - 6.06 = 23.93) breastfeeding

In most cases human pregnancy is around 9 lunar months
If lunar/solar year requires 21 months (30 - 9 = 21) breastfeeding

375 days = 12.7 lunar months
If lunar/solar year baby Penny requires slightly > 17 months (30 - 12.7 = 17.3 months) breastfeeding

Therefore, weaning time varies (inversely proportional to pregnancy) late babies less, premature longer.

https://corpuscoranicum.de/handschriften/index/sure/31/vers/14/handschrift/56


https://corpuscoranicum.de/handschriften/index/sure/46/vers/15/handschrift/56

[Noon waalqalami]

31:14 فى in/within (< less than) عامىن amayni/year two

30 shr   = pregnancy| pregnancy| pregnancy   +   weaning|   weaning|   weaning   
(days)   # of days| # of weeks| mts (lunar)       # of days| # of weeks| mts (lunar)   
         
885.92   =   147.65   21.09   5.00   +   738.26   105.47   25.00   < amayni (solar) 730.5 days = False
885.92   =   151.00   21.57   5.11   +   734.92   104.99   24.89   baby Lyla < 730.5 days = False
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885.92   =   155.92   22.27   5.28   +   730.00   104.29   24.72   < amayni (solar) 730.5 days = True

should read: 31:14 فى fi/in (within <= less than or equal to) عامىن amayni/year two
inequality equation: https://www.mathsisfun.com/algebra/inequality-solving.html

the above case baby Lyla was perplexing/contradiction shouldn't be alive missed cutoff time?
this case too is interesting we have an exact date of conception she also missed cutoff time?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preterm_birth
"Amillia Taylor is also often cited as the most premature baby. She was born on 24 October 2006 in Miami, Florida, U.S. at 21 weeks and 6 days' (153 days) gestation. This report has created some confusion as her gestation was measured from the date of conception (through in vitro fertilization) rather than the date of her mother's last menstrual period, making her appear 2 weeks younger than if gestation was calculated by the more common method."

•   contradicts If month = 29.53059 days, If year = lunar 354.36708 days
•   contradicts If month = 29.53059 days, If year = solar 365.242199 days
•   contradicts If month = 29 days, If year = lunar 354 days
•   only works If month = 29 days, If year = solar 365 days! (counted as full e.g. dawn-to-dawn)

p = pregnancy time/carry his (variable)
w = weaning time/separation his (variable)
w <= 730 days [31:14 (2 x 365 days = 730 days i.e. <= 2 solar years)]

870 days – p <= 730 days [46:15 30 x (lunar months / day) = 870 days]
p = 870 days – 730 days = 140+ days

30 shr   = preg | preg | pregnancy   +   weaning| weaning| weaning   
(days)   # days| # weeks| # months   +    # days| # weeks| # months

870.00   = 116.00   16.57   4.00   +   754.00   107.71   26.00   <= amayni (solar) 730 days (False!)
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870.00   = 140.00   20.00   4.83   +   730.00   104.29   25.17   <= amayni (solar) 730 days (True!)
870.00   = 145.00   20.71   5.00   +   725.00   103.57   25.00   
870.00   = 151.00   21.57   5.21   +   719.00   102.71   24.79   Lyla <= 730 days (True!)
870.00   = 153.00   21.86   5.28   +   717.00   102.43   24.72   Amillia <= 730 days (True!)
870.00   = 164.00   23.43   5.66   +   706.00   100.86   24.34   Saybie <= 730 days (True!)
870.00   = 174.00   24.86   6.00   +   696.00   99.43   24.00   
870.00   = 179.20   25.60   6.18   +   690.80   98.69   23.82   Rumasia and Hiba <= 730 days (True!)
870.00   = 203.00   29.00   7.00   +   667.00   95.29   23.00   
870.00   = 232.00   33.14   8.00   +   638.00   91.14   22.00   
870.00   = 261.00   37.29   9.00   +   609.00   87.00   21.00   average pregnancy
870.00   = 290.00   41.43   10.00   +   580.00   82.86   20.00   
870.00   = 319.00   45.57   11.00   +   551.00   78.71   19.00   
870.00   = 348.00   49.71   12.00   +   522.00   74.57   18.00   
870.00   = 375.04   53.58   12.93   +   494.96   70.71   17.07   Penny <= 708.73 days (True!)
870.00   = 377.00   53.86   13.00   +   493.00   70.43   17.00

peace!

[Noon waalqalami]

peace,

see update on academia site

https://www.academia.edu/60573093/Pregnancy_weaning_calculations_in_Qur_an

[jkhan]

Salaam, there's nothing to debate. In Arabic, nouns and adjectives can have different endings depending on their grammatical case: nominative, accusative, or genitive.

#    Acc./Gen.  Nom.   
20    عِشْرونَ    عِشْرينَ
30    ثَلاثونَ    ثَلاثينَ
40    أَرْبَعونَ    أَرْبَعينَ
50    خَمْسونَ    خَمْسينَ
60    سِتّونَ    سِتّينَ
70    سَبْعونَ    سَبْعينَ
80    ثَمانونَ    ثَمانينَ
90    تِسْعونَ    تِسْعينَ

Nominative: This case is used for the subject of a sentence. The nominative form of the numbers ends in ونَ (e.g., عِشْرونَ for 20, as in verse 8:65; ثَلاثونَ for 30, as in verse 46:15).

Accusative and Genitive: These cases share the same ending for these numbers, which is ينَ (e.g., ثَلاثينَ for 30, as in verse 7:142). The accusative case is typically used for the direct object of a verb, while the genitive case is used after certain prepositions or to indicate possession.

Every time a double-digit even number(ex. 30 40 50 60 etc) is mentioned in Al Quran it ends as 'ayin' for example 'Arbayin'.. whatever ending in 'uun' is not a double-digit number in itself.. for example 99.. 'Thisa wa ThisaWuun'.. while 90 is precisely called 'Thisaayin' and some of those that are ending 'unn' are not at all numbers they have other meanings.. for example, 'ThalaThun' or 'Sabauun' in the Quran...

8:65 The word 'Ishruun' doesn't mean the even number 20.. and it is precisely called ' Ishrain'...

The word Ishrun in the verse means 'twenty at a time'.. like Quran teaches us 'Mathzna' = Two at a time, 'Thulathza' = three at a time, etc., and it is not two or three as a whole number but at a time emphasized with it..

Also 'Ishrun' means 'twice ten'.. not referring directly to the word Ishrain to mean 20..

'Ishrun' is not plural of 'Ashara'.... Ishrain is plural of Ashara directly..
Ishruun can mean twentieth as well..

So 8:65 is all about twenty at a time..

Note: Always doubling principle is ending in 'Ayin' for example Ithnain, Shifathain it could be for anything doubling to any multiple quantity .. like if you want multiply 3 into thirty .. thalatha becomes thalaTHAIN.. to denote 10 times.. Araba becomes arabian and NOT arbaun..100 to 200 (mia becomes Miathain) alf becomes Alfain..even it is two times or ten times it is same..

[Bajram Hoxhaj]

8:65 The word 'Ishruun' doesn't mean the even number 20.. and it is precisely called ' Ishrain'...

So 8:65 is all about twenty at a time..

8:65
if beeth among you عِشْرونَ twenty (20) steadfast
    triumphed they of two hundred (200)

and if beeth among you hundred (100)
    triumphed they of thousand of (1,000)

Salaam, I don't know where to start or why you flipped to this thread/topic—maybe numbers...

Cardinal Numbers: 1 – 10
1    واحِدٌ
2    إثْنانِ
3    ثَلاثَةٌ
4    أَرْبَعةٌ
5    خَمْسةٌ
6    سِتّةٌ
7    سَبْعةٌ
8    ثَمانِيةٌ
9    تِسْعةٌ
10    عَشرَةٌ

four students (masculine)    أربعةُ طلابٍ
four students (feminine)    ارْبَعُ طالباتٍ

Cardinal Numbers: 11 – 19 masculine, feminine
11    أحَدَ عَشَرَ    إِحْدي عَشْرةَ
12 Nominative    إثْنا عَشَرَ    إثْنَتا عَشْرةَ
12 Acc./Gen.    إثْنَيْ عَشَرَ    إِثْنَتَيْ عَشْرةَ
13    ثلاثةَ عَشَرَ    ثلاثَ عَشْرةَ
14    أَرْبَعةَ عَشَرَ    أرْبعَ عَشْرةَ
15    خَمْسةَ عَشَرَ    خِمْسَ عَشْرةَ
16    سِتّةَ عَشَرَ    سِتَّ عَشْرةَ
17    سَبْعةَ عَشَرَ    سِبْعَ عَشْرةَ
18    ثَمانيةَ عَشَرَ    ثمانيَ عَشْرةَ
19    تِسْعةَ عَشَرَ    تِسْعَ عَشْرةَ

nineteen morons (masculine)    تِسْعةَ عَشرَ بليداً

Cardinal Numbers: 20-99 Nominative, Acc./Gen.
20    عِشْرونَ    عِشْرينَ
30    ثَلاثونَ    ثَلاثينَ
40    أَرْبَعونَ    أَرْبَعينَ
50    خَمْسونَ    خَمْسينَ
60    ستّونَ    ستّينَ
70    سَبْعونَ    سَبْعينَ
80    ثَمانونَ    ثَمانينَ
90    تِسْعونَ    تِسْعينَ

thirty-eight morons (19x2)      ثمانيةٌ وثلاثونَ بليدا

Ordinal Numbers: 1 – 10
first    ألأَوَّلُ
second    الثّاني
third    الثّالِثُ
fourth    الرّابِعُ
fifth    الْخامِسُ
sixth    السّادِسُ
seventh    السابعُ
eighth    الثّامِنُ
ninth    التّاسِعُ
tenth    الْعاشِرُ

Ordinal Numbers: 11-19 Masculine, Feminine
The ordinals from 11 to 19 are always in the accusative case (as are the cardinals). If the noun is masculine, both parts of the ordinal will be masculine; if the noun is feminine, both parts will be feminine.

eleventh    الحادِيَ عَشَرَ    الحادية عَشْرةَ
twelfth    الثانيَ عَشَرَ    الثانيةَ عَشْرةَ
thirteenth    الثالثَ عَشَرَ    الثالثةَ عَشْرةَ
fourteenth    الرابعَ عَشَرَ    الرابعةَ عَشْرةَ
fifteenth    الخامِسَ عَشَرَ    الخامسةَ عَشْرةَ
sixteenth    السادِسَ عَشَرَ    السادسةَ عَشْرةَ
seventeenth    السابعَ عَشَرَ    السابعةَ عَشْرةَ
eighteenth    الثامنَ عَشَرَ    الثامنةَ عَشْرةَ
nineteenth    التاسعَ عَشَرَ    التاسعةَ عَشْرةَ

the ninetieth التِسعونَ
the twentieth العِشرونَ