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Sarah

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weren't born into it and looked at the Qur'an without hadith objectively?

For example, I wasn't born into Christianity. What they believe in seems silly to me. When I look at it objectively I would never become a Christian and I do not fear the Christian Hell at all.


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I was born a Muslim and I think what we believe seems silly to me.
If I wasn't born a Muslim I will not be appealed to it's teachings.

Similar to Christianity the entire religion of Islam tries to control it's followers through FEAR; and stressed the importance of loyalty to religion, defending and fighting for the religion; after a study to it's history I then understand why, both religion was invented by an empire to build and extend the empire.

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Peace Sarah,

Really good question.

We are born into different religious and cultural background. We are given respective knowledge about religion from our families when we are kids. We don't have any control over it. But what we all have in common is our God given ability to think, reason and question those religious teachings and  dogma and try to find find the truth. If I look back and think about childhood I still can remember lots of silly stories I heard from people regarding religion. Some people decides not to use the reasoning and follow the bandwagon blindly.

However The word Islam simply means submission. Anyone irrespective of his/her background can submit to God Alone by coming to the realization that God Alone has all the power. This realization and submission does not require any religious teaching from anyone or any messenger or any scripture. The only thing we need is to think/reason rationally.

 According to the Qur'an, the ability to perceive the existence of the Supreme Power is inborn in human nature (fitrah); and it is this instinctive cognition-which may or may not be subsequently blurred by self-indulgence or adverse environmental influences - that makes every sane human being "bear witness about himself" before God.

http://quranix.org/7#172
7:172 And your Lord took for the children of Adam from their backs, their progeny; and He made them witness over themselves: "Am I not your Lord?" They said: "Yes, we bear witness." Thus you cannot say on the Day of Resurrection that you were unaware of this.

So as per the above verse probably we are all born Muslim since we have testified by accepting God as our lord.

http://quranix.org/30#30
The Monotheist Group (The Quran: A Monotheist Translation)
30:30 So establish yourself to the system of monotheism. It is the inclination that God has nurtured the people on. There is no changing in the creation of God. Such is the pure system, but most of the people do not know.
Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
30:30 AND SO, set thy face steadfastly towards the [one ever-true] faith, turning away from all that is false, in accordance with the natural disposition which God has instilled into man: [for,] not to allow any change to corrupt what God has thus created this is the [purpose of the one] ever-true faith; but most people know it not.

The term fitrah in the verse 30:30 means "natural disposition/inclination", connotes in this context man's inborn, intuitive ability to discern between right and wrong, true and false, and, thus, to sense God's existence and oneness.
http://corpus.quran.com/wordmorphology.jsp?location=(30:30:5)

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Peace Sarah.
Do you mean born a "Traditional Muslim" the religion? That is just like any other religion irrelevant to being "Muslim to GOD"

All people are born as children, they may inherit a religion,and their religion may restrict them to its following but no one is born a "Muslim" as in the state of mind to GOD. everyone ,regardless of religion is born with the potential to become a "Muslim".
And there lies  the biggest misconception of our generation.. , Still the majority are not aware of the difference since "Traditional Islam" has hijacked and named  GOD s one and only religion as their own containing their own books.

I hope you see the irrelevance of that question.
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Peace Good Logic,

No, I meant 'If you were born a Muslim, do you think you would be Muslim today if you weren't born into it and looked at the Qur'an without hadith objectively?' Traditional Muslims also view hadith.
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What I meant is that nobody is born a Muslim.in the true sense of the word. One becomes a Muslim through his/her chosen way of life after he/she grows up and reaches the age of accountability/maturity/...
That is how the test pans out.
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@Sarah
You need to clarify by what you mean by Muslim.

My answer above is valid if and only if for the definition of Muslim = A member of the religion of Islam.
Which I was born into, with both parent also members of the religion of Islam.

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Salam Sarah.

I think people find God if they are truly searching for him (Abraham was amongst idol worshipers and found God) .

Our backgrounds are irrelevant...Many here have come from Sunni/Shia/Christian/etc. upbringings.
`And when God Alone is mentioned, the hearts of those who do not believe in the Hereafter are filled with aversion; and when others are mentioned beside Him, they rejoice!` (The Quran 39:45)

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salaam Sarah,

Your question is almost similar to these type of questions;
“Why some born in rich family and why others in poor background?”, “why some born with diseases/defects, why others not?” etc.

(It might have some reason/purpose at God, since He let things happen so)

Likewise, some born in traditional Muslim community, others in Christianity/Hinduism/Judaism etc.

And it’s a well known fact in the world that, Qur’an is the last known Book/guidance in the name of the creator/ Lord of the worlds. Hence, any sincere truth seeker born in any religion/tribe will check its genuineness if he found any problems in his guidance (what he follows by birth).
-my current understanding. Verify for yourself -17:36.
O you who believe! Enter perfectly in islam/ Surrender yourselves wholly unto God [2:208], [3:19-20,85 2:132]

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And it’s a well known fact in the world that, Qur’an is the last known Book/guidance in the name of the creator/ Lord of the worlds.

It's a propagandized dogma that Quran is the last and/or only guidance from the creator and/or was not authored by creatures.

The fact is revelation and guidance never stopped and always available through trillion of channels / media / languages / symbolism / means. Always available to those who asked and ponder.
Any sincere truth seeker will eventually realized this.

Abraham never read the quran but he was refered as a muslim (without the capital "I")
Jesus never read the quran but he was refered as a muslim (without the capital "I")
Jesus companions never read the quran but he was refered as a muslim (without the capital "I")