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The Nature of the Creator

Started by Houriya, November 08, 2019, 05:15:15 AM

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Jafar

Quote from: Houriya on November 08, 2019, 06:17:53 PM
The screen and the movie are a metaphor. As the human being is identified with his character which is a cluster of thoughts, he plays a role as an actor in a film

The closer metaphor will be, everything exist within the creator's dream.
In absolute sense; you, me, them do not exist, only the creator exist..

That is why the path of 'good' / 'truth' is the path towards 'non-self'..(Humility, Sacrifice, Loving All) and the path of 'evil' / 'illusion' is the path towards 'self' / 'ego'. (Arrogance, Pride, Narcism, Self / Us Superiority Over Others / Them, Excessive Loves Towards Me or Us While Hating Others or Them etc)

Quote from: imrankhawaja on November 12, 2019, 04:28:17 PM
Hmm so people select a wrong organ "BRAIN" for consciousness. Vice versa Its heart responsible for the functions?

Yes as it happened, brain is not necessarily required for consciousness, although brain does contribute to it.
The research of it is it's infancy though but some preliminary result does available of experiment with animals (mice). Mice brain being cuts on any portion doesn't eliminate the memory which was previously recorded / memorized by the mice.

The metaphor is more of, brain is the 'cpu' which manage your interaction with a 'computer'.
And heart is more of the power supply which regulate the electricity flowing within a computer.


Houriya

Agree Jafar, only the self exist.

we live in the dream of time. All of our phenomenal life unfolds in the eternal present.

Jafar

Quote from: Houriya on November 13, 2019, 03:03:12 PM
we live in the dream of time. All of our phenomenal life unfolds in the eternal present.

The conception of 'eternal present' and/or 'infinitely everywhere and all the time and beyond' is something which is impossible to grasped by any being, at least any being within this universe. Because that's not how all being in this universe experienced space and time. Space and time by itself is part of 'creation'.

That's why even the question of "The Nature of God" in itself is absurd in the first place. As any or even all of nature within this universe cannot be compared to 'the creator'. Which implied the notion of "Human Like" 'creator' to be absurd as well (Get angry, vengeful, punishing beings for not obeying his order, envious of other gods, rebel-able / reject-able) let alone the notion of "multiple creators".




Houriya

There are two types of time: clock time and psychological time. This one is based on the past (memories), the future (anticipation). The past and future does not exist.
Only the eternal present moment exists

When we live in the memory of the past or in the future, we become unconscious.

When we live in the present, we are aware of ourselves and we can establish the link with the creator.

The verification is done only by the experience which allows to reach the certainty in the heart. The human mind is limited to understand the infinite.

Jafar

Quote from: Houriya on November 15, 2019, 01:58:41 AM
When we live in the memory of the past or in the future, we become unconscious.
When we live in the present, we are aware of ourselves and we can establish the link with the creator.
The link with the creator was, is and always established, it can never be severed.. regardless of what or who you are..

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The verification is done only by the experience which allows to reach the certainty in the heart. The human mind is limited to understand the infinite.

I think it's more to the 'soul' rather than 'heart', human brain is limited to understand within it's own limitation (finite) and not infinite.