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Masturbation is not haram in Islam

Started by zakir, November 03, 2019, 05:19:37 AM

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zakir

Masturbation is a very controversial topic among Muslims and Most Muslims wrongly believe that masturbation is haram in Islam. They wrongly quote the below verse in the Quran.

"And those who guard their chastity. Except from their wives or (the captives and slaves) that their right hands possess, - for them, they are free from blame. But whoever seeks beyond that, then those are the transgressors." (Al Quran-23.5-7 )

The above mentioned verse only talks about sexual relations between persons other than your wives and slaves
and masturbation is only a thing that you engage with your self.  Many including imam Shafi have tried to derive a meaning as if masturbation is haram. When you look clearly there is no mention of the word masturbation being forbidden. the word" But whoever seeks beyond that, then those are the transgressors." as being taken out of context and interpreted to mean that the masturbator is a transgressor as he is seeking something beyond what his right hand posesses. This verse only means about homosexuality and fornication. and Allah(awt) and his rasool(sal) have clearly explained in the Quran and Sunnah of what is sexual transgression. and sexual transgression is adultery,fornication, homosexuality because these are what that have being clearly being forbidden in the Quran and the Sunnah.

Imam C.J Ahmed has written a brilliant article on why masturbation is not haram and in fact it is a gift from Allah(Swt) to mankind. Please click here https://cjislam.weebly.com/why-masturbation-is-not-haram.html to read the article. My question is, what do you Quranists believe about masturbation?

quincy

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Just kidding...

We are no catholics who practice celibacy brother. You can see what it does when you try to suppress your sexual necessities in those circles.

seekingtruth1111

Quote from: zakir on November 03, 2019, 05:19:37 AM
Masturbation is a very controversial topic among Muslims and Most Muslims wrongly believe that masturbation is haram in Islam. They wrongly quote the below verse in the Quran.

"And those who guard their chastity. Except from their wives or (the captives and slaves) that their right hands possess, - for them, they are free from blame. But whoever seeks beyond that, then those are the transgressors." (Al Quran-23.5-7 )

The above mentioned verse only talks about sexual relations between persons other than your wives and slaves
and masturbation is only a thing that you engage with your self.  Many including imam Shafi have tried to derive a meaning as if masturbation is haram. When you look clearly there is no mention of the word masturbation being forbidden. the word" But whoever seeks beyond that, then those are the transgressors." as being taken out of context and interpreted to mean that the masturbator is a transgressor as he is seeking something beyond what his right hand posesses. This verse only means about homosexuality and fornication. and Allah(awt) and his rasool(sal) have clearly explained in the Quran and Sunnah of what is sexual transgression. and sexual transgression is adultery,fornication, homosexuality because these are what that have being clearly being forbidden in the Quran and the Sunnah.

Imam C.J Ahmed has written a brilliant article on why masturbation is not haram and in fact it is a gift from Allah(Swt) to mankind. Please click here https://cjislam.weebly.com/why-masturbation-is-not-haram.html to read the article. My question is, what do you Quranists believe about masturbation?

As long as your masturbation does not involve violating quranic commandment 24:30-31 that is looking at naked bodies of others(i,e porn) I don't see any prohibition.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqgnDATu9hs

zakir

Replying to seekingtruth1111

You said,
"As long as your masturbation does not involve violating quranic commandment 24:30-31 that is looking at naked bodies of others(i,e porn) I don't see any prohibition."

My Reply,
I cannot fathom why you would take Shabir Ally's opinion if you are a Quranist. The verses in 24:30-31 talk only about guarding the private parts and that would mean that you can watch porn according to the Quran opinion while masturbating because Quran does not unequivocally state that porn is haram.

seekingtruth1111

Quote from: zakir on November 03, 2019, 11:02:02 AM
Replying to seekingtruth1111

You said,
"As long as your masturbation does not involve violating quranic commandment 24:30-31 that is looking at naked bodies of others(i,e porn) I don't see any prohibition."

My Reply,
I cannot fathom why you would take Shabir Ally's opinion if you are a Quranist. The verses in 24:30-31 talk only about guarding the private parts and that would mean that you can watch porn according to the Quran opinion while masturbating because Quran does not unequivocally state that porn is haram.

I don't see him using any hadith here.

Verses 24:30-31 talks about lowering your gaze as well by which I understand not to look at the private parts.

hawk99

Quote from: hawk99 on October 31, 2019, 06:23:20 PM


Peace zakr there where no movies back then.  So the question becomes
can zakr watch two people or three people or a room full of people having
sex while he jerks off in the 7th century. 
  :hmm


                             :peace:

Go ahead and beat your meat/choke the chicken/ masturbate bro zakr,
but don't watch porn while you do so because that would be participation
and support on your part.    :handshake:
The secret to monotheism can be found in the garden

good logic

Peace Zakir..
So i walked into your  bait  thread again.
And i didn't even mean to.

I am giving you an award for beating members here in a bait digging contest. I will crown you:The master baiter.
Better luck next time in your next thread.

And please read Qoran again with sincerity in your heart , then see the quality of  the questions you will be asking us next will improve.
GOD bless you.
Peace
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tutti_frutti

salam

i know this is an older post but i would like to nonetheless reply with my opinion if that's okay :)

for me it is clear that masturbation is no permitted

my opinion:

part of verse 151 from surah 6 states :

"and do not approach immoralities - what is apparent of them and what is concealed"

that for me includes masturbation - it is definately an indecency, and also when one does so they imagine things in their minds and that qualifies as "what is concealed"

peace

good logic

Masturbation in which Islam ?

The state of mind Islam is about "cleansing our soul" and following the best advice/instructions from GOD s scripture.
There are many habits difficult for us to control that in reality become an obsession and a burden. and masturbation is one of those habits
Of course we cannot say some habits like masturbation is haram or halal,but we can say other things bout it,regardless of religious beliefs like:

Some definite hints that you are engaging in excessive masturbation,would include:
Signs of compulsive sexual behavior would include engaging in the behavior more often or for longer than you want to, continuing even though you don't want to, continuing even though it has negative functional, physical, or psychological consequences (like neglecting work to go masturbate instead), and constantly being preoccupied with the behavior. If you're just not able to stop even though you want to, that's a sign of an addiction to masturbation. That is not a clinical diagnosis, by the way, but this kind of compulsion could definitely meet the criteria for a behavioral addiction in general.
You are hurting your body — your skin is red, swollen, raw, and painful.
Your compulsive masturbation is part of a wider addiction to adult materials.

In addition, if masturbation makes you feel bad or guilty, that's a problem. Or If masturbation is getting in the way of a healthy relationship with your partner, that also signifies a problem, even if you don't do it very often. (Whether the problem is with your partner or your habits would depend on the situation, yes?)

So, what about the effects of over-masturbation?
The effects of excessive masturbation could roughly be separated into two domains — physical and psychological.
Physically, excessive masturbation may cause damage to your skin, through skin irritation, skin abrasions, or even superficial bruising, as well as sometimes urticaria.

In some — exceedingly rare — cases, this damage can even become life-threatening. There is a case in the medical literature where a previously healthy young man in his twenties developed Fournier's gangrene, a kind of necrotizing fasciitis (flesh-eating disease) of the genital region after excessive masturbation.

It turned out that this man had been using soap as a lubricant, which is definitely a bad idea, and his genital region — photographed for research — looked like a massacre. The moral of the story is to see a doctor if you have any physical complaints, and to take a break from sex of any kind if you notice any genital symptoms.

Mentally, once you enter compulsive territory and you lose control over your behavior, you are in trouble. As with any behavioral addiction, one in which you are addicted to masturbation could harm your mental health, your relationship with other people, your financial status, and totally take over your life. When it gets to this point, you need help.

In some cases, neurological conditions such as Parkinson's disease can also lead to compulsive sexual behavior that can include masturbation, and people with intellectual disabilities may display sexual behavior that is deeply uncomfortable to the people who surround them, too. This means the mental consequences may affect more than the person themselves; others could suffer, as well.

One may argue that I am only including the cons of masturbation, but instinctively it out weights the pros. why?
Because one is not following the best advice of GOD s scripture to stay away from anything that potentially harms us.
But each is free to their choices and decisions.
GOD bless you all.
Peace.
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