Thank you brother for sharing your thought… I don’t blame for what you perceive within quran… but let me go off topic and pose you certain questions to why you claim that the Prophet Messenger of Quran saw (physically) Allah directly and in addition to that claiming the quran was directly revealed book and not through other mediums? For you 53:1-20 seems enough to conclude your view…
But look below verses…
Blame? Off topic? In order to explain your question which, I find quite diverse, I need to go back to many verses chapters in the Quran and not just cherry pick!
Did you read Quran Chapter 53? I wonder how you perceive the information given in that chapter? Do not take lightly the information as those sectarians! The Quran is a Book of Explanation no Assumption!
Here is Surah An-Najm verses 01 to 12: The context of the verses in this Chapter renders it even clearer.
In the Name of ALLAH Most Gracious
وَالنَّجْمِ إِذَا هَوَى
{1} And the star when it sets!
مَا ضَلَّ صَاحِبُكُمْ وَمَا غَوَى
{2} Your companion has not strayed; he is not deluded;
The word “Your companion” is referring to the Prophet. The audience of the Arabic version Quran were the Arabs. So why was the Prophet referred to as a companion considering the fact that in the Quran mention the stories of Noah, Lut, Hud, Saleh and Shuaib, where these Messengers were referred to as Brothers to their people. Quran 14:04
And We did not send message of a Messenger except in the language of his people to state clearly for them…….
The above verse referring to the language and, in this case, the Arabic version Quran was sent to someone who spoke Arabic and his audience were the Arabs. If this is so, why in verse 2 of Chapter 53 mention the word “Companion” and not “Brother”? I will come to this later.
وَمَا يَنْطِقُ عَنِ الْهَوَى
{3} he does not speak from his own desire.
Again, this is not referring to his human words as a man - what he said to his wives, children, and friends, but to the Qur'an. The "speech" of Prophet as the Narrator of the Qur'an. We learn this from the verse:
"This is the words/speech ( qawl / قَوْل ) of a honorable messenger." (Quran 69:40)
(Very similar to Prophet Moses, where both were aka honorable Messenger and Messenger Prophet)
إِنْ هُوَ إِلا وَحْيٌ يُوحَى
{4} It is nothing less than an inspiration that is inspired to him
The Quran 69:43 - “sent down from the Lord of the two Realms.” When you read this, you have to read it in context! This verse is referring to the Prophet who received the Quran directly from the AlMighty Lord! If you study 02:97 – the Quran was sent down to someone (mention in 2nd Person) thru Jibril by permission of ALLAH! IN 26:192-193 – Quran sent down from God thru Jibril - Trustworthy Spirit to someone (mention in the 2nd Person)! Whenever the Quran mention 2nd Person with regards to the Quran, it is referring to someone mention in 09-40 and 16:103. That someone was a Rasul!
عَلَّمَهُ شَدِيدُ الْقُوَى
{5} It was taught to him by one with Mighty Powers,
who can that be? Is it God Himself or the Angel Messenger?
ذُو مِرَّةٍ فَاسْتَوَى
{6} great strength, who stood
Again, the question is as above, who is this entity?
وَهُوَ بِالأُفُقِ الأَعْلَى
{7} on the highest horizon
ثُمَّ دَنَا فَتَدَلَّى
{8} and then approached––coming down
فَكَانَ قَابَ قَوْسَيْنِ أَوْ أَدْنَى
{9} until he was two bow-lengths away or even closer
فَأَوْحَى إِلَى عَبْدِهِ مَا أَوْحَى
{10} and revealed to HIS servant what HE revealed.
The verse above is in the 3rd Person – HIS SERVANT! Whose servant? Jibril as those sectarians concluded. If this is the case, the Prophet had 2 Masters – God and HIS Angel Messenger and that goes for us too! So, where it the logic?
مَا كَذَبَ الْفُؤَادُ مَا رَأَى
{11} [The Prophet’s] own heart did not distort what he saw.
The Prophet’s heart did not lie of what he saw! It is a grave accusation when someone accuse the Prophet of being a liar! The root word Ra Aliff Ya, means to see, to behold, to look, to notice, to regards, to consider; If you refer and compare to what Prophet Yusuf saw in his vision, the word use is Rukya – an idea or mental image of something. So, if the Prophet saw a vision, the word Rukya is use not Ro Aye!
أَفَتُمَارُونَهُ عَلَى مَا يَرَى
{12} Are you going to dispute with him what he saw?
Are you Mr Khan, having doubt / dispute about what the Prophet saw? Off course, you are having doubt just like those sectarians! Do not compare the Prophet with Prophet Moses, both have their own standards which the AlMighty God sets albeit both Prophets were of the same ranking – (they were both Messenger-Prophet and Honorable Messenger)! It is not appropriate for anyone to decide or think about the Prophets!
2:97-98 “Say, "Whoever is an enemy to Gabriel - it is [none but] he who has brought the Qur'an down upon your heart, [O Muhammad], by permission of Allah , confirming that which was before it and as guidance and good tidings for the believers. Whoever is an enemy to Allah and HIS ANGELS AND HIS MESSENGERS AND GABRIEL AND MICHAEL - then indeed, Allah is an enemy to the disbelievers.” ~~~~ These two glaring verse proves that the quran came through to us with the will of God using Gibreel mainly(or initially) and looking at the order of enemy list above in which Malaika + Messengers + Gibreel + Michael are indicated to ponder that Quran or any other God’s book would have been revealed through these sources…
16:102 “Say, [O Muhammad], "The Pure Spirit has brought it down from your Lord in truth to make firm those who believe and as guidance and good tidings to the Muslims."
26:192-195 “And indeed, the Qur'an is the revelation of the Lord of the worlds. The Trustworthy Spirit has brought it down Upon your heart, [O Muhammad] - that you may be of the warners”
~~~~ These crystal clear verses say entirely contrary to your claim.. Aren’t they? I am sure you are aware of it already… but let’s see what is your response to substantiate still what you claim..
From the verses you have shown, both Jibreel and Mikaal are the ONLY 2 Angel-Messengers who were given the permission to convey the revelation to those Prophets/Chosen one!
In 02:97 – Jibreel aka Trustworthy Spirit (26:193) was given the permission to sent down/downloaded the Quran in a “SOFTWARE FORMAT” directly into the heart of the receipient of this Quran. Nowhere in the Quran mention Jibreel sent down the Quran in a physical Book Format and taught the recipient of the Quran!
In 16:101-102 – The abrogated verses - meaning verses already existed in an existing Book, abrogated and sent down by the Holy Spirit! Trustworthy Spirit and Holy Spirit – 2 different entities! Since Jibril aka Trustworthy Spirit, that means, Mikaal is the Holy Spirit! Simple Maths – 1 + 1 = 2! So from the context of the said verses, Mikaal brought down a Book with abrogated verses in a HARWARE FORMAT! This ABORAGTED VERSES IN HARWARE FORMAT WAS THE BOOK OF MOSES which were with the Jews, contemporaries of the Ministry of the Quranic Seal of the Prophets and the Messenger who received this Quran! Quran 32:23
And certainly, We gave Moses the Book (Furqan); SO DO NOT BE IN DOUBT OF RECEIVING IT: We made it a guidance for the Children of Israel.
Base on what I have already explained, it was the Prophet who conveyed the above verse (and the whole Quran) to his disciple (mentioned in 16:103). Notice that the 1st Person Pural “We” in verse 32:23, although, the Prophet was not born during the Ministry of Moses, but since, he received the Message directly from God, and as such, he conveyed the message in the Plural We, to denote that he was not speaking on his own but rather he was speaking on behalf of his BOSS – THE ALMIGHTY GOD! This also occur in the present with regards to the Prophet’s Ministry!
Don’t ever with mere assumption consider that God directly spoke to Musa’s mother without third party behind a veil..…. That only an inspiration.. How God inspire to human is mystery … No one can say that.. Only those who are inspired knows it… Such inspirations are not only for human, probably to all his creatures at the inception… Coz He wants to guide their lives…
I believe you are the one who has been assuming all the while! The Quran is a BOOK OF EXPLANATION NOT A BOOK OF ASSUMPTION! From what you wrote, you assumed the Quran is a Book of Assumption. Then what is the point of God’s explanation on 42:51? The whole verse is redundant and that makes the whole Quran a joke!
10:94 “So if you are in doubt, [O Muhammad], about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters.”
The above verse 10:94 will become piece of joke if you claim that Prophet received the revelation of quran directly and by seeing the God… What kind of prophet he is to doubt after seeing his Lord manifestly and knowing that it was revealed to him by God… for what reason prophet has to approach those who read the scriptures before him while he has already seen his Creator…That’s super bizarre claim…
It is already a piece of joke with your understanding! I had already explained, there are 2 individuals mentioned in the Quran – 09:40, cross reference with 09:26 and 16:103 – the teacher and the student! The Prophet received the Quran directly from God and it was he who taught his disciple / Messenger assigned to their people!
10:94 – simply says that the Prophet told his disciple/Messenger assigned to Messenger’s people - the Arabs, if he is in doubt, ask the People of the Book who were his contemporaries.
Can you see the logic?
21:25 “And We sent never a Messenger before you except that We revealed(WAHI) to him, saying, 'There is no god but I, so serve Me.”
21:7 “And We sent not before you, [O Muhammad], except men to whom We revealed [WAHI], so ask the people of the message if you do not know.”
In the above verses 21:25 & 21:7 God confirms that all messengers before Mohamed was revealed… word used is WAHI that same word you took to substantiate your claim that Messenger of Quran spoke to God directly without screen… so God can inspire in any mode… How do you take WAHI as direct speech of God with HIS presence and if So, All messengers before Mohamed has spoken to God directly since you used WAHI to be direct Speech of God that also seeing God..
23:27 “So We inspired(WAHI) to him (Prophet Noah), "Construct the ship under Our observation, and Our inspiration(WAHI), and when Our command comes and the oven overflows, put into the ship
21:73 “And We made them leaders guiding by Our command. And We inspired (WAHI) to THEM the doing of good deeds, establishment of prayer, and giving of zakah; and they were worshippers of US.”
42:51 “And it is not for any human being that Allah should speak to him except by revelation or from behind a partition or that He sends a messenger to reveal, BY HIS PERMISSION, what He wills. Indeed, He is Most High and Wise.” ~~~~ you already used this verse to support your claim but, Prophet Messenger of Quran is also a HUMAN like us… So to see God and TALK is impossible according the very glaring manifest verse…
20:48 “Indeed, it has been revealed(WAHI) to US(Musa + Harun) that the punishment will be upon whoever denies and turns away.”
If God denied to show Himself to Musa while talking to him, but the Earth couldn’t bear it… Mountains powdered… How then God descended to Earth and came close to Mohamed .. is that what you claim by 53:1-20… that’s simply offline… God claimed in those verses that Prophet saw one of His signs and not God Himself..
You confused yourself…. Three Modes
A – Wahi…. Check all WAHI verses for better picture..
B – Behind a Screen
C – Sending an Angel Messenger…
Just carefully read quran and you will find the answer… B & C is very clear and totally different to ‘A’..
B = God’s real voice is audible to the listener but not possible to see The One who communicates with the listener …
C = Message is from God and God RELAYS His message thru His Angel Messenger to be delivered to Human who was chosen as human Messenger to deliver to People… …For this type of talk only God has used an extra phrase ‘BY HIS PERMISSION’… So other two mediums are direct from God…
A = inspiration / revelation (direct but not audible)… this is also a way of talking to human… Since already the category ‘B’ God’s audible voice is highlighted, then this ‘A’ or rather WAHI also cannot be in that group ‘B’.. otherwise God doesn’t need to segregate to THREE… … see the verse 99:05 “for that her Lord has inspired HER (Earth)” .. Here God doesn’t come to earth and show Himself and talk to the EARTH… but direct inspiration.. Earth knows that the Creator of IT inspired to do what it Does.. 19:11 “So he came out to his people from the prayer chamber and signaled (WAHI) to them to exalt [Allah] in the morning and afternoon.” ……. Very clear that God used WAHI here while Zackariya did not opted to speak to his people but still talked to them without speaking audible voice…that’s kind of real inspiration/revelation… but how God does, we have no idea.. look at this verse 6:112 “And thus We have made for every prophet an enemy - devils from mankind and jinn, inspiring (WAHI) to one another decorative speech in delusion. But if your Lord had willed, they would not have done it, so leave them and that which they invent.”
God has THREE ways of COMMUNICATING, it is not at all necessary to show HIMSELF.. that’s beyond truth as per Quran.. No evidence… all are mediums of mere communication and not visual… Quran or any of his previous scriptures would have been revealed in any of the three mediums (by one medium or two or three that God knows)… We can’t confirm that by only ONE medium it was revealed....But if you take the verses of SEND DOWN then the weight is for option ‘C’… but I am not convinced …remember I don't say you are completely wrong in your study...further studies may make things manifest to us....
Praise be to God I am not confuse, it is you who is. Erase the knowledge of sectarians from your head. I agree with you on B & C in which I have already explained earlier in my post! If what you said on Category A is correct that means Category A is redundant. There is no reason to put up Category A. B & C is enough!
Revelation Category A – WAHI means divine or supernatural disclosure to humans of something relating to human existence or the world.
And it is not for any human being that ALLAH should SPEAK to him except by revelation (WAHI) or from behind a partition or that He sends a messenger to reveal, by His permission, what He wills. Indeed, He is Most High and Wise.
If it is what you said not audible, that means the word SPEAK should not be there! The root word for SPEAK in Arabic – Kaf Lam Mim meaning – speak to, talk to or with someone, to utter, express, to say,.
God spoke to the Prophet directly in a form of revelation and it was audible. However, the nuance of the speech is beyond our knowledge! Only the Prophet knew!
Category A can also be supported by the Biblical verse Deuteronomy 18:18.
18 I will raise up to them a Prophet of their brethren, like thee; and I will put my words in his mouth, and he shall speak to them as I shall command him.The above verse is one of those verses in the Book of Moses that is being protected by God Almighty!
ALLAH says to Moses that HE will raise a Prophet from among their brethrens – the majority that is the Ishmaelite 11 Tribal Nations who were Brethrens to the 1 and only Elite Prophetic descendents of Prophet Isaac! They were the Leaders as mentioned in Quran
21:73 “And We made them leaders guiding by Our command. And We inspired (WAHI) to THEM the doing of good deeds, establishment of prayer, and giving of zakah; and they were worshippers of US.”From the Elite descendents of Prophet Isaac came the Quranic Seal of the Prophets and ALLAH put words in the Prophet’s mouth! This was HIS promise which already been fulfilled!
Revelation Category B –
the word HIJAB, root word Ha Jim Ba – meaning
1. a thing that veils, conceals, hide, cover or protect because it prevents seeing or beholding.
2. a Thing or Body between two things or bodies or realms
So base on what you have written and that is God’s real voice is audible to the listener but not possible to see The One who communicates with the listener. In this case, Prophet Moses and his mother who received the WAHI and it falls in this category. Prophet Moses saw a light and spoke to God and in a different realm in which case, God told Moses that he was on holy ground! God also spoke to Moses mother and plausible at a different realm! This also includes the Earth or whoever God inspires including Prophet Nuh and the other Prophets and Messengers who received the WAHI in this category!
Revelation Category C –
God spoke to a person thru his Angel Messengers. In this case, Prophet Zakariya and Maryam mother of Esa falls in this category. Both were told not to speak after receiving the inspiration! Prophet Abraham - (NOT YUSUF – my mistake) and Prophet Lut, falls in this category, However, no information that they cannot speak! The recipient of this Quran – the Messenger in which Jibril downloaded Quran in a software format into his heart and also the abrogated Book of Moses in which Mikaal sent it down to him in a hardware format, no information that he cannot speak!
Conclusion
Whether you are convince or not believe or not, its not up to me to judge! The Prophet received the Message directly from God, and as such, he conveyed the message in the Plural We/Us, to denote that he was not speaking on his own but rather he was speaking on behalf of his BOSS – THE ALMIGHTY GOD!
