Is it okay to get cats fixed

[imrankhawaja]

 Peace GL

Thats y you remove the two verses of your current messenger 

Your last line of post remind me of a song

" I AM STANDING in the middle of no where "by modern talking

One of their hit song was you r not good cant u see brother louie louie louie

So u agree he hinted towards the year ?

God bless 

[good logic]

Peace Imran.

This is my stand brother:
I check all views including my own with a reference called Qoran. If I find-Of course according to my own checking and understanding- that it agrees with Qoran, then Qoran is the criteria.
You seem to confuse human opinions with Qoran s  take. Or do you think human messengers have not got personal opinions? Or they do not err? Or they are not a test to others and tested themselves?

Here are my answers to your concerns about me:

1-We discussed 9:128, 129.  Yes, according to my study of Qoran s composition, it does not belong there. You argue the opposite and only the original copy of the prophet can solve your problem.

2- It is irrelevant if one predicts the day of judgement. Like I said those who are certain work for it as if it is tomorrow, those who do not believe in it ,it will never arrive as far as they are concerned. All RK s views need to be checked against Qoran like yours and mine.

3-The message from RK as far as I am concerned is "Follow GOD Alone using Qoran alone". This tells us everything we need to know. Then we move to accept, study and follow GOD s instructions to work on ourselves for ourselves.

Hope now you get my message.
Brother only GOD is our Wakeel not any other human.
GOD bless you.
Peace.

[imrankhawaja]

You never know ,if Mohammed does not go to the mountain, the mountain may come to Mohammed.

from here read again and read the previous posts again.. you are funny at extreme..

2- It is irrelevant if one predicts the day of judgement

with these two statements you contradict your own self becoz now your messenger is on trial... 

otherwise i havnt got any wish to continue debate of 19 with you,

you stumped on several occasions. you can read or go through the previous threads about all those replies what i already given.. (save your and mine time) and see the thread was about cats and diseases...i guess..you just came from nowhere "quoating me" and i m just figuring it out why advising me something in which your messenger is brilliant and now you are stuck  i hope and pray from God u atleast understand why we are discussing that issue...of UNSEEN

but (I admit) i dnt know unseen and i also figured it out your messenger after  knowing this truth still do blunders of knowing unseen...

NOTE your current messenger (QURAN) is  the version of quran by your second last messenger khalifa in which you REJECT 2 verses.. thats what your stand... ( on top of that he used the help from hadith)... blunder upon blunder...

and

Or do you think human messengers have not got personal opinions? Or they do not err?

i think the messenger of God only deliver a message whats is from God not from his personal desires

but your second last messenger is exception ... his lies/blunders/sins/rejections you are covering with ERR ?

he hijacked the id of messenger of covenant and you are supporter of hijacker (thats what your  stand my lovely GL)

GOD bless you

[imrankhawaja]

You seem to confuse human opinions with Qoran s

Here are my answers to your concerns about me:

1-We discussed 9:128, 129.  Yes, according to my study of Qoran s composition, it does not belong there. You argue the opposite and only the original copy of the prophet can solve your problem.

2- It is irrelevant if one predicts the day of judgement. Like I said those who are certain work for it as if it is tomorrow, those who do not believe in it ,it will never arrive as far as they are concerned. All RK s views need to be checked against Qoran like yours and mine.

3-The message from RK as far as I am concerned is "Follow GOD Alone using Qoran alone". This tells us everything we need to know. Then we move to accept, study and follow GOD s instructions to work on ourselves for ourselves.

Hope now you get my message.

ALL three points contradict with each other what you need is hire a neutral researcher (imagine for one day your brain is at retirement stage) and seek help from neutral researcher ...

he will write/issue a lengthy essay on the blunders/errors/rules/fallaices etc.

to show you the flaws of your three points..

example 1

"Follow GOD Alone using Qoran alone" from point 3..

but reality is they remove/reject the verses of QURAN alone ....

example 2

God only have a knowledge of hour

but reality is so called messenger prophesied it...

example 3 ,4,5,6,7, so on 19 i can give you 19 fallacies at hand within your 3 points...

i would not have post the reply of your three points seperately if you corrected like this

"follow God alone using QURAN alone by (khailfa)" then i have no issue..

[good logic]

Peace Imran.
Obviously you are not getting my message. So keep insisting with your wrong argument.

I am simply commanded to follow the Lord .And to study/ recite/ponder the Qoran. Whoever is guided is guided for his own good,

I get your message ,you do not like RK for your own reasons. May be your own cleverness or arrogance is leading you to your own path. You are free to follow whatever you choose.

Going by your posts, I do not see any evidence refuting some good arguments. I only see general talk, most of it personal, mocking and irrelevant.
I close my conversation here brother.
Thank you.
GOD bless you.
Peace.

[imrankhawaja]

peace GL,

i think my prayer not fullfilled and you did not understand or you dnt want to understand either cases its true we should save eachothers time instead of hijacking somones else thread 

next time treat people/advise people the way, you want to get treat/advise.. otherwise stay quiet ..

i never knew mountain came to RK now  mountain who stab him 19 times

God bless you 

[Jafar]

Do you believe it's right to spay or neuter cats or is it wrong because you're "changing the creation of God"?

What if you're the cat?
Would you like to be treated as such?

[imrankhawaja]

Do you believe it's right to spay or neuter cats or is it wrong because you're "changing the creation of God"?

Your friend is cruel. Cats need their whiskers for balance, they dont have them for no reason. He was probably dizzy and scared

Neutering is a common and routine operation that involves the removal of your cat's sexual reproduction organs.

hairs will grow back at some time i guess so considering this thing compared to "Neutering" is indeed height of cruelty 

thanks jafar for another insight to be honest i just googled that word.. and get shocked at first i just thought op is just asking about spray now i suggest op to read this verse hope it will help..

?I will mislead them and entice them.? I will order them to slit the ears of cattle and disfigure the creation of God.? Whoever forsakes God and takes Satan for a friend, has suffered a manifest loss (4:119)..

i wish we have more minds like jafar in forum...
you are champion bro may God give/bless u long life.

[Amra94]

Neutering is a common and routine operation that involves the removal of your cat's sexual reproduction organs.

hairs will grow back at some time i guess so considering this thing compared to "Neutering" is indeed height of cruelty 

thanks jafar for another insight to be honest i just googled that word.. and get shocked at first i just thought op is just asking about spray now i suggest op to read this verse hope it will help..

�I will mislead them and entice them.� I will order them to slit the ears of cattle and disfigure the creation of God.� Whoever forsakes God and takes Satan for a friend, has suffered a manifest loss (4:119)..

i wish we have more minds like jafar in forum...
you are champion bro may God give/bless u long life.

Spaying/neutering is a surgery and actually has benefits vs cutting a cats whiskers off for "revenge" like a psycho. How's that comparable.

[Amra94]

What if you're the cat?
Would you like to be treated as such?

Two of the feral cats we feed recently had kittens. We know one had 3 for sure, let's say the other one had 3. We haven't seen 5 of them because they most likely died. We recently caught the only one that showed up in our yard with its mom. So if I was a cat and knew most of my babies would die if i reproduced then no I wouldn't mind being fixed.