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what are the clear proofs in quran?
« on: April 24, 2019, 03:19:22 PM »
Quran mentions clear proofs (especially being sent to prophets in past) in several places for example: 7:85, 9:70, 10:74, 11:17, 14:9, 30:47, 35:25, 40:28, 40:83, 57:25 and 6:57 ("Say, \?I stand on clear evidence from my Lord, and you have rejected Him. ...")
Have these proofs preserved until nowadays? What are these proofs?
Are there any real proofs(miracles) of islam being the true(quran being from god) religion?

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Re: what are the clear proofs in quran?
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2019, 03:38:21 AM »
Peace beliver000.

How many human books can one memorise? How easy is it to memorise any book?

The author of Qoran has made this task easy:
https://submission.org/App3.html

I have experienced this myself.. I am not fluent in Arabic  nor did I know the language few years prior to coming across Qoran.

As part of my plan to get familiar and ease my task of studying the book, I have set myself the task of memorising Qoran . It took me just over two years. I can honestly say that the "sound bells" really exist and I understand clearly 54:17":We made Qoran easy to remember ?"

I have never seen a book by a human cater for this phenomenon!!!

GOD bless you.
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Re: what are the clear proofs in quran?
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2019, 04:19:09 AM »
Refers to those which are proved 100% wrong, after a period of practicing those.. like cheating people in the business.

like this.. people see television ads and many give false ads hype ups etc.. and now theres not much rules to control these and people get cheated, not many consider these to be evil.. but In the long run.. these people will come to know of the harm in these and will be considered very much evil.

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Re: what are the clear proofs in quran?
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2019, 08:30:48 AM »
i would go for consistency, and the test of time in which quran is consistent...

for checking any religious/scientific/philosphy book u need to put it on test of TIME..

example pick 100 year old book from science/religion and see how many errors and misunderstandings are there compared to present day knowledge...

QURAN is excellent in test of time as far my research i see 80% of scientific data is 100% correct as per current knowledge... (bigbang, watercycle, expansion of universe, deep sea knowledge, and lot more)..

rest 20% not proven wrong or right because science is not that advance yet to confirm or refute those claims... my logic say that rest 20% is also correct...

although i have some issues from the people who interpret quran from the lens of 7th century and some metaphors like hell punishment and stories of prominent figures... lot of those issues sorted out by advance believers of quran like wife beating, cutting hands of thieves etc..
and i believe those metaphor issues will be sorted as time will give us  chance to improve our learning..

although author of quran is one of the highest level in intelligence no doubt about it.. this book worth reading for readers... this book let reader to find for himself what is truth and false.. and also the only book on the planet of earth to challenge its readers to produce a book like this ( BOOK that stand against the test of TIME)...

i recommend this book along with gospels = (from original source of text in greek) .. so brother take your time and instead of learning from someone else why not do research for your own and see what this book got for you.. once you finish reading that book then see whats confusing you people here are helpful too who can also share their findings with you on those issues...

God bless you.

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Re: what are the clear proofs in quran?
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2019, 09:12:09 AM »
i would go for consistency, and the test of time in which quran is consistent...

for checking any religious/scientific/philosphy book u need to put it on test of TIME..

example pick 100 year old book from science/religion and see how many errors and misunderstandings are there compared to present day knowledge...

QURAN is excellent in test of time as far my research i see 80% of scientific data is 100% correct as per current knowledge... (bigbang, watercycle, expansion of universe, deep sea knowledge, and lot more)..

rest 20% not proven wrong or right because science is not that advance yet to confirm or refute those claims... my logic say that rest 20% is also correct...

although i have some issues from the people who interpret quran from the lens of 7th century and some metaphors like hell punishment and stories of prominent figures... lot of those issues sorted out by advance believers of quran like wife beating, cutting hands of thieves etc..
and i believe those metaphor issues will be sorted as time will give us  chance to improve our learning..

although author of quran is one of the highest level in intelligence no doubt about it.. this book worth reading for readers... this book let reader to find for himself what is truth and false.. and also the only book on the planet of earth to challenge its readers to produce a book like this ( BOOK that stand against the test of TIME)...

i recommend this book along with gospels = (from original source of text in greek) .. so brother take your time and instead of learning from someone else why not do research for your own and see what this book got for you.. once you finish reading that book then see whats confusing you people here are helpful too who can also share their findings with you on those issues...

God bless you.

We are aware of Manual or User's Guide. Creator or manufacturer of a quality product provides a manual that contains instructions for its operation and information about its structure; mutual relationships of its constituents, and relationships with outer world. Manual also contains instructions for its upkeep, maintenance and troubleshooting when problem arises. Man is perhaps the finest and top of the line "Product" ever created. Man has the best of existing machines. Man once created is however a self developing and operating sentient.

Not only the title of the Book that suggests its ambit as encompassing the knowledge of space-time, but also its stature as the Manual - User's Guide for audience reveals that it has a binary structure containing information and guidance for the person as well as of his environ.

Grand Qur?ān informed that Allah the Exalted will henceforth keep bringing to human visual access the knowledge about universe and human body, whereby the fact that Grand Qur?ān mirrors Proven Fact-absolute reality might become self manifest to the people who keep denying it. Why a first time observation of hitherto unseen thing manifests that the Qur?ān is a statement of proven fact? This is possible only if the same thing finds mention in the Qur?ān. Verbal specification and visual observation are two aspects of identification of a tangible fact of real existence as denoted by Arabic word: . The visual observation of an earlier unseen fact by humans will manifest a book written earlier in time as Book of Facts which contains its verbal presentation. This will establish that the Book really contains verbal statements of physical-scientific facts and is not conjectural, hypothetical and presumptive in its contents.

The experts suggest that one of the criteria a book has to meet to earn title of a great book is that "The book has to speak from an important original setting. But a great book is one that is not trapped in its original setting. It has to be written in a way that constitutes it a living experience for readers today."

 ( مُتَشَٟبِـهَٟتٚ)  Verbal Passages mirroring physical realities existing in the Universe and human body through metaphors render the Book the personification of Living entity in time and space. Knowledge about matter is verifiable in time and space. Anything said by the Book regarding physical matters could be subjected to verification in time and space about its truth to an exact detail. Falsification test of any book-statement could be the physical one. The facts mentioned in the Qur?ān about the Universe and human body are in itself the falsification test of the Book.

http://haqeeqat.pk/FacilitatorByMetaphors.htm

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Re: what are the clear proofs in quran?
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2019, 11:05:30 AM »
TRUE brother mazhar i agree

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Re: what are the clear proofs in quran?
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2019, 12:53:15 PM »
What are these proofs?

soundness



Have iman in
(Q64: 8 )



But as for those who have
  • clear evidence from their LordLaw 1:2 (of Nature or The Universe/Sunnatullah/Way of Allah: Validity)
  • followed up by a witness 69:40 from Him (Revelation/Natural Person: Truth)
  • and before it the ordain of Musa came as a model and a mercy 7:156-157 (Tawba/Natural Law: Soundness)
such people have iman in it (Quran - "what are the clear proofs in quran?"). Any faction which rejects it (three conditions above) is promised the Fire. Be in no doubt about it. It is the Truth (proof) from your Lord. But many people have no iman. (Q11:17)

40:83

When their Messengers brought them the Clear Signs, they exulted in the knowledge they had and then were engulfed by the very things they mocked. When they saw Our violent force, they said, "We have iman in Allah/Sunnatullah alone and reject what we associated with Him." But when they saw Our violent force their iman was of no use to them.  This is the sunnatullah of Allah established upon His servants for ages! Thereupon those who denied the knowledge of the reality are in loss! (Q40:83-85)

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