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Ma Malakat Aymanukum and ?oaths?
« on: April 10, 2019, 03:16:02 PM »
Hello,

Could someone please explain the context of the supposed oaths which the Prophet had with the ma malakat aymanukum in the following verse:

O Prophet, indeed We have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have given their due compensation and those your right hand possesses from what Allah has returned to you [of captives] and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who emigrated with you and a believing woman if she gives herself to the Prophet [and] if the Prophet wishes to marry her, [this is] only for you, excluding the [other] believers. We certainly know what We have made obligatory upon them concerning their wives and those their right hands possess, [but this is for you] in order that there will be upon you no discomfort. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful. (33:50)

Also what is the context of the oaths in this verse:

And those who guard their private parts Except from their wives or those their right hands possess, for indeed, they are not to be blamed ? 79:29-30

Assuming it is possible that the translations are wrong in the above citations and it actually means ?oaths? what were these oaths? Did all sides take an oath? If so, for what? Is there any historical context? I?m very confused and find it hard to understand!

Thanks

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Re: Ma Malakat Aymanukum and ?oaths?
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2019, 06:20:35 PM »
Reading it in the manner other non-fictions books are read, things will become explicit, In Sha Allah.

The Ayah 33:50 comprises of 69 separate words. In English language, it is called a paragraph that is around seven to ten sentences long. The paragraph form refers to its overall structure, which is a group of sentences focusing on a single topic.

There are three main parts of a paragraph:

Topic sentence - it has the main idea

Supporting sentence - details that relate to and support the topic sentence

Concluding sentence - a brief reflection or statement about the main idea

The topic sentence is: يَا أَيُّهَا النَّبِيُّ إِنَّا أَحْلَلْنَا لَكَ أَزْوَاجَكَ 

30"50-52

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Re: Ma Malakat Aymanukum and ?oaths?
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2019, 08:44:29 PM »
Salam!

Brother Mazhar! Were there also some wives who were not given their due compensations by the Prophet?

Peace!

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Re: Ma Malakat Aymanukum and ?oaths?
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2019, 12:49:57 AM »
Salam!

Brother Mazhar! Were there also some wives who were not given their due compensations by the Prophet?

Peace!

It is a protocol of marriage. In the link it is mentioned:

The paragraph unity is maintained when every other sentence would give specific information than the topic sentence that maintains the same focus of attention as the topic sentence. Specific information about: أَزْوَاجَكَ "your wives" is mentioned: اللَّاتِي آتَيْتَ أُجُورَهُنَّ : "the wives whom you had paid their wedding gifts - determined and settled obligations;". This is adjectival portrayal of the preceding noun Wives. It subtly conveys the fact of consummation of marriages. However, it does not indicate the earlier position or relationship of the honourable wives as to who they were.

Marriages 30:50-52

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Re: Ma Malakat Aymanukum and �oaths�
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2019, 02:52:22 AM »
and those their right hands possess  .... (33:50)

Those who cannot find the means to marry should be abstinent until Allah enriches them from His bounty. If any slaves YOU [ie. "Those who cannot find the means to marry"] own want to make a contract to free themselves (as your wife), write it for them if you know of good in them (for marriage) and give them some of the (matrimonial property or) wealth Allah has given you. [RATHER THAN] Do not force your slavegirls to prostitute themselves (when you cannot afford to feed etc them) if they desire to be (a spouse and) virtuous women out of your desire for the goods of this world. If anyone forces them, then after they have been forced, Allah is Ever-Forgiving, Most Merciful. (24:33)

one must first free their slave before making them as their spouse ...a slave cannot have rights in matrimonial property and inheritance etc, only their wife have right for Islamic inheritance and matrimonial property etc. Thus the first contract must first be terminated before you can enter into the second contract, ie. contract of marriage.
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Re: Ma Malakat Aymanukum and ?oaths?
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2019, 02:01:02 AM »
The proliferation of words translated or interpreted as slaves, preferably female slaves, in the Qur'an, leads one to hink that some fiscal rebates are to be had that way. Otherwise it is not understandable that so many words with their own proper meanings are turned into slaves.

?IT IS VERY DISGUSTING!!!!

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Re: Ma Malakat Aymanukum and �oaths�
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2019, 03:36:11 AM »
your slavegirls

and these kinds of things happen during wars, poverty, starvation etc..
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Re: Ma Malakat Aymanukum and ?oaths?
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2019, 04:57:46 AM »
And happen above all in transltions of Qur'an with words which do not mean that. So we have been under war, poverty starvation all the time, not even an hour free?

That kind of translation is an indictement of a whole class of people. And it doesn't look as it is going to change. Too many are too comfortable. They may cringe at cerain things just to show themselves progressive and women sympathetic, but really they have not the least intention of redressing anything.

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Re: Ma Malakat Aymanukum and ?oaths?
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2019, 05:22:08 AM »
imagine if we live in a world where women dominate the lands and declare the wars on other women nations  :rotfl:. and they make men their slave then MALES can realise what all women going through from ages.

imagine if 4 womens owned one slave wrong math
imagine if one women owned 4 males then she ll be chilling lmao.

imagine if forcefully women rape men in the battlefield and after killing their wives and kids they captured their husband for slavery how do male feels ?  :police:

i also know some pervs who want this SYSTEM/deen to b established in their lives  :laugh:

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Re: Ma Malakat Aymanukum and �oaths�
« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2019, 06:10:36 AM »
    And happen above all in transltions of Qur'an with words which do not mean that. So we have been under war, poverty starvation all the time, not even an hour free?

    That kind of translation is an indictement of a whole class of people. And it doesn't look as it is going to change. Too many are too comfortable. They may cringe at cerain things just to show themselves progressive and women sympathetic, but really they have not the least intention of redressing anything.

    Salaam

    So which rule shall we adopt during wars and similar situation?


    please also explain the legal aspect of

    • Legal rights in Matrimonial Property
    • Legal rights in Islamic Inheritence
    • Legal rights from Contract of Marriage, What is "marriage"?
    • Legal rights from Contract of Employment OR Slavery, and their legal status?

    What is the Law?

    What is your authority?




    one must first free their slave before making them as their spouse ...a slave cannot have rights in matrimonial property and inheritance etc, only their wife have right for Islamic inheritance and matrimonial property etc. Thus the first contract must first be terminated before you can enter into the second contract, ie. contract of marriage.

    He has made an example for you from among yourselves. Are any of the slaves you own partners with you in what We have provided for you so that you are equal in respect of it, you fearing them the same as one another?  (30:28)[/list]
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