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Re: MARYAM (People of Imran, 3:33)
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2019, 10:38:44 AM »
Obey them, be mushrik. (6:121)

They are not Mushrik, and it is a little bit different for men than women.

Three situations:

MAIN RULE: O Prophet! do jihad against the kafirun and hypocrites and be harsh with them. Their refuge is Hell. What an evil destination!
  • Allah has made an example for those who are kafir: the wife of Nuh and the wife of Lut. They were married to two of Our slaves who were righteous but they betrayed them and were not helped at all against Allah. They were told, ´Enter the Fire along with all who enter it.´ (66:10)
    Husband (iman) + Wife (kafir)
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  • Allah has made an example for those who have iman: the wife of Pharaoh when she said, ´My Lord, build a house in the Garden for me in Your presence and rescue me from Pharaoh and his deeds and rescue me from this wrongdoing people.´ (66:11) EXCEPTION: The pure natural believers should not take kafirun as friends/spouse rather than pure natural believers. Anyone who does that has nothing to do with Allah at all — unless it is because you are afraid of them. (3:28)
    Husband (kafir) + Wife (iman)
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  • And Maryam, the daughter of ´Imran, who guarded her chastity — We breathed Our Ruh into her and she confirmed the Words of her Lord and His Books and was one of the obedient. (66:12) RECOMMENDED
Salam Mahdi!

Where are 24:32 and 28:27 in your answer?

BTW What is Quran? A Book? A Reading? or something else? Whatever you call it, it is not NATURAL.

Peace!

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Re: MARYAM (People of Imran, 3:33)
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2019, 11:56:10 AM »
Where are 24:32 and 28:27 in your answer?

This is the answer..

They are not Mushrik

Proof..

One of the women said, "Father, hire him: a strong, trustworthy man is the best to hire." (28:26)

and

Marry off those among you... (24:32)


BTW What is Quran? A Book? A Reading? or something else? Whatever you call it, it is not NATURAL.

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Re: MARYAM (People of Imran, 3:33)
« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2019, 11:58:15 AM »
Peace brother Mahdi.

I thought I was innocent of trolling.
Now I have read all the evidence against me in your post  shall I change my plea to guilty?
Then you will have to include this rule:
 Those who always bring an off-topic issue, make the blind accusation, fallacious argument, and avoiding relevant arguments/claims .

GOD bless you.
Peace.


Do you have anothing to say about this?

The jihad for people of Imran (women)

Allah chose Adam and Nuh and the People of Ibrahim and the People of Imran (MARYAM) over all other beings (MESSENGERS). (3:33)



Do not marry mushrik! ...and jihad like Maryam.

ELSE, zina.

the contract for zina "in the name of Allah"...
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Re: MARYAM (People of Imran, 3:33)
« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2019, 12:30:10 PM »
About Zina?Yes I do brother Mahdi

The Ibad of the Most Gracious (And I do not mean energy!!!) are those who tread the earth gently, and when the ignorant speak to them, they only utter peace.

 They never commit Zina. Those who commit Zina will have to pay. ( And I do not mean pay money for Zina!!!)

I mean they pay by going to "the worst abode; the worst destiny."

I mean like retribution is doubled for them on the Day of Resurrection, and they abide therein humiliated.

Of course brother Mahdi, except those  who repent, believe, and lead a righteous life. God transforms their sins into good deeds. God is Forgiver, Most Merciful.
Then they will be with the ones who attain Paradise.  what a beautiful destiny; what a beautiful abode.
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Re: MARYAM (People of Imran, 3:33)
« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2019, 12:39:22 PM »
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except those  who repent

There is NO TAWBA for people who persist in doing EVIL .. (4:18)

EVIL is:

The muminun (pure natural believers, sunnatullah alone, natural justice) should not take kafirun (forced justce) as friends/spouse rather than muminun. Anyone who does that has nothing to do with Allah at all (ie. NO TAWBA). (3:28)

IF they had had iman in Allah and the Prophet and what has been sent down to him,

THEN they would not have taken them (forced justice) as friends/spouse.

ELSE/But most of them are deviators (ie. NO "iman in Allah and the Prophet and what has been sent down to him")


You can't walk with Allah and hold on to the devil at the same time,you can't serve two master's (shirk)!

On that Day, We shall ask Hell, Are you now full? Hell will answer, Are there any more? (50:30)

Your friend is only Allah and His Messenger and those who have iman. (5:55)
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Re: MARYAM (People of Imran, 3:33)
« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2019, 01:06:03 PM »
Your friend/spouse etc. is only Allah and His Messenger and those who have iman. (5:55)

Sunnatullah (Natural Justice / Earth Jurisprudence) vs. Taghut (Forced Justice / Political Jurisprudence)



for the sake of Sunnatullah (Way of Allah, LordLaw of Nature)

ie. the doctrine for non-cooperation and civil disobedience

You have an excellent example in Ibrahim and those with him, when they said to their people, "We wash our hands of you and all that you serve apart from Allah/Sunnatullah/LordLaw of Nature/Natural Justice, and we reject you. Between us and you there will be enmity and hatred for ever unless and until you have iman in Allah/Sunnatullah/LordLaw of Nature/Natural Justice ALONE." Except (disobey Ibrahim!! do not even follow) for Ibrahim's words to his father: "I will ask forgiveness for you but I have no power to help you in any way against Allah." [Do not even ask forgiveness for your father, BUT SAY]"Our LordLaw (of Nature/Sunnatullah), we have put our trust in You. and have made tawba (align our nature) to You (NATURE). You are our final destination (LordLaw of Cause & Effect). (60:4)

And do not attend towards any of them when they have died, nor stand at their grave. They have rejected God and His messenger and died while they were wicked. (9:84)

Allah has given you love of iman (sunnatullah, natural justice) and made it pleasing to your hearts, and has made kufr, deviance and disobedience (taghut, forced justice) hateful to you. People such as these are rightly guided. (49:7)



~ The Sunnatullah ALONE MUSLIM.


Then they will be with the ones who attain Paradise.  what a beautiful destiny; what a beautiful abode.

You never find 'Muslims' who have iman in Allah and the Last Day on friendly terms with anyone who opposes/neutral/bystanding Allah/Sunnatullah/Law of Nature and His Messenger/Natural Law/Natural Society, though they be their fathers, their sons, their brothers or their clan. Allah has inscribed iman upon such people's hearts and will reinforce them with a Ruh from Him and admit them into Gardens with rivers flowing under them, remaining in them timelessly, for ever. Allah is pleased with them and they are pleased with Him. [ONLY] Such people are the party of Allah. Truly it is the party of Allah who are successful. (58:22)

Neutral/Bystander/Peacemaker : They belong neither to you nor to them. (58:14) It is they who are Shaytan's army. (58:19)

They would like you to be kafir as they are kafir (Neutral/Bystander/Peacemaker) so that you will all be the same (Shaytan's Army) . Do not take any of them as friends/spouse until they have made hijra in the Way of Allah/Sunnatullah. (4:89)

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