Is the Holy Quran for the humans only or for the Jinns too?

[imrankhawaja]

https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9608523.msg388232#msg388232

brother hawk remember this post ages ago ? lol  bout mixed race jinns

[hawk99]

https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9608523.msg388232#msg388232

brother hawk remember this post ages ago ? lol  bout mixed race jinns

Yeah,    What a thread!     

[jkhan]

Hi everyone...
Honestly finding tough to allocate time to read each and every topic in this forum.. I wonder how you guys allocate time to involve in this with your busy schedule... I do appreciate it honestly... Number of topics are heaped up.. Unable to concentrate.. 
But thought of saying something  of my knowledge with substantial proof...
Yes... Quran is for Men (made of clay)   and for Jin (made of fire)...  Just coz QURAN is revealed in Arabic doesn't mean it's only applicable and approachable by Arabs.. But QURAN is for those who believe in God be it Man  or Jinn ...
I know people have different  views about Adam and his partner... But most acceptable is they were two human beings according to Quran and any other opinions are not supported with incontrovertible proofs.. Based on that with Adam and his partner God sent some others to this earth.. That's Jinn including iblees.... Including the verse 2:36 is a proof that it was not Adam and his partner but those who deceived them as well and guidance came for all collectively...
Okay...
In the first place God sent Group of Jinns  to the place of Prophet Muhammad and they were made to listen to the Arabic quran.. It is not they themselves arrived in their own volition... But It was Allah who made it intentionally for their maintenance of guidance... Coz that same message was meant to be spread among Jinns community... They went back as heralds to their community... Jinns power is clear in Quran... Coz they were referring we heard a wonderful QURAN after what was given to musa.. So unless they knew the meaning of both Arabic and the language what Mosa spoke they won't refer the both... Definitely  Jinns speak language and seems to know almost all languages Othereise Satan can't dupe the people of the world who speaks various languages... That's immense power of Jinns... 
Many verses can be taken in support of claiming that quran was revealed for those who believe in God be it men or jinn...
Let me bring the familiar verse.. 72:1-2 read the verses pls before read below...
Jins have listened and understood QURAN and Most importantly BELIEVED IN QURAN and they (Jinns)  themselves openly acknowledged that It (Quran)  guides to the right path... What beautiful verses to come to know that Jinns also depend on QURAN ever since it was revealed.. But they were depending on previous books earlier..
And read the amazing verse 72:7 ...thats more than enough... Common messenger...
The place they live is Earth 72:10 same as we do
72:11 same as men some are guided and some are misguided
72:13 they heard the guidance of Quran and believed in it..
72:14 no difference to human some are Muslims (surrender)  and some not...

Afterall we human and jinn are enticed with same Janna chapter 55 and posed a common question as which of the blessings of marvels you both men and jinn deny...
Once denied we both are threatened with the same hell fire....
Though some of the humans don't know that qyran is meant for guidance Jinn as well but jinn knew very well...

Quran was not revealed in my language and or my country and somehow guidance reached me.. So what difference it makes to me and jinn... It may not be in their common language they used to speak but they listened and got the guidance and accepted it... So it means they are followers of right path with the help of Quran ..
Most importantly guidance of basic is not equaling or joining partners with God in any sort of way... That's what Jinns confirmed on 72:2-3
Any strong provable opposite views to this is much welcome...
God bless us

[jkhan]

*****Correction with*** 72:7*** .. It was to be read as "" common message.. Death is common for both and will be raised... And both some of men and jinn harbor doubts of ressurection... Nothing is different  from men to jinn only thing they are created by fire... That was the only reason or iblees to arrogant as well..

God bless us...

[NK]

Peace JKhan,

You said in your reply {Quran is for Men (made of clay)   and for Jin (made of fire)}.

Could you please show me only one verse in the Quran where Allah said Jins are made from fire.

Please do not write lengthy answer. Just show me the verse.

Salam

[hawk99]

Peace NK

[15:27] And the jinn We created before from scorching fire.

[NK]

Peace hawk99,

The verse is #1608;َالْجَانَّ خَلَقْنَاهُ مِن قَبْلُ مِن نَّارِ السَّمُومِ

The word Quran used is الْجَانَّ not الْجِنَّ, big difference.

No where in Quran Allah said he created الْجِنَّ from fire. If it did then we need a reference. It is the misconception among muslims.

Salam

[jkhan]

May I know what is that BIG DIFFERENCE, if Jinn and Janna are different creatures, would you pls explain ?
I had this question long back Dear NK? I worked it out it within the quran?Meanwhile while you explain let me know chapter 55 in it JANNA AND INSAN 55:14 is mentioned and in the continuation of the chapter God turns to the both of them and call them as INSI AND JINNI 55:33? and keep on posing a common question which of the marvels BOTH OF YOU deny? I don?t see the THIRD ONE here.. I need a clear explanation to accept your understanding ? I am sure I will accept the right thing regardless who you are? It would be very helpful a crystal clear answer for everyone? or will you be satisfied Jinn and Janna same? We can go through with many of the other verses to support the claim that only one creature God created by fire?but explain this first..

btw thank you Brother Hawk..
God bless us...

[jkhan]

May I know what is that BIG DIFFERENCE, if Jinn and Janna are different creatures, would you pls explain ?
I had this question long back Dear NK? I worked it out it within the quran?Meanwhile while you explain let me know chapter 55 in it JANNA AND INSAN 55:14 is mentioned and in the continuation of the chapter God turns to the both of them and call them as INSI AND JINNI 55:33? and keep on posing a common question which of the marvels BOTH OF YOU deny? I don?t see the THIRD ONE here.. I need a clear explanation to accept your understanding ? I am sure I will accept the right thing regardless who you are? It would be very helpful a crystal clear answer for everyone? or will you be satisfied Jinn and Janna same? We can go through with many of the other verses to support the claim that only one creature God created by fire?but explain this first..

btw thank you Brother Hawk..
God bless us...

I actually don't won't to restrict this crucial question only with NK but preferably would like to see responses  from those who say Jaanna is different to Jinn and also those who say Jaanna and Jinn same... So that we can come to a conclusion
God bless us

[good logic]

Is this not the case?:
Insaan= One of Naas. Insaan is singular Naas is plural
Jaan= One of the Jin.
So Jaan is singular and Jin is   plural.
My understanding.
GOD bless.
Peace.