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Mazhar

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Re: Fir'aoun - Pharaoh a King with acute Narcissistic personality disorder
« Reply #40 on: October 11, 2018, 12:03:04 PM »
Good idea, you could write another wonderful (i.e. full of wonders of logic) article on the Quran and the eyebrows, I am sure you could juggle anatomy of human head out of the verses.

I have not found mention of eyebrows in the semantic domain body-parts in Qur'an.

I had just tried to visualize your face in my imagination. It was in that connection. You wish not to share, it is okay.

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Re: Fir'aoun - Pharaoh a King with acute Narcissistic personality disorder
« Reply #41 on: October 11, 2018, 01:22:55 PM »
I had just tried to visualize your face in my imagination.

If you do not have any other worries, then I am fine, but there is I think more crucial things for you to contemplate upon, don't you find?

I have not found mention of eyebrows in the semantic domain body-parts in Qur'an.

As if you have found anything else you keep writing about.
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Re: Fir'aoun - Pharaoh a King with acute Narcissistic personality disorder
« Reply #42 on: October 11, 2018, 05:12:33 PM »
If you do not have any other worries, then I am fine, but there is I think more crucial things for you to contemplate upon, don't you find?

As if you have found anything else you keep writing about.

But why are you not obliging me with an information which can cause you no harm?

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Re: Fir'aoun - Pharaoh a King with acute Narcissistic personality disorder
« Reply #43 on: October 11, 2018, 11:45:21 PM »
But why are you not obliging me with an information which can cause you no harm?

Because if you apply wisdom you will get your answer, as of now you are an old fool who is juggling verses, no offence intended. And I am merely giving you a hint.
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Re: Fir'aoun - Pharaoh a King with acute Narcissistic personality disorder
« Reply #44 on: October 12, 2018, 08:20:34 AM »
YOu are completely off and being in this forum many years has not helpt you at all.
Same to you...
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You have no idea of ancient Egypt, that is the problem, you merely parrot all clishes, like slavery.

And you're the expert?
You read hieroglyph?

Back to the initial discussion:
You were ranting about bible references while Ramesses II has no biblical reference whatsoever.


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Re: Fir'aoun - Pharaoh a King with acute Narcissistic personality disorder
« Reply #45 on: October 12, 2018, 08:41:43 AM »
I'm just curious about Narcissistic Personality Disorder though I am not one of those diagnosed. 1) How would you explain the psychological origin of NPD in Islamic Psychology like what is the ego and superego and what happens? 2) Is it the person's fault that they have NPD since childhood? Can they control it or is it like any other disorder that can develop? 3) Is there any cure for it Islamically? If yes, what is it exactly? If no, what does the person do if he is Muslim because he won't truly be sincere? Will he be destined for hell? 4) Can an actual sufferer become a true, sincere Muslim? I mean can the disorder and the faith coexist? How? Why not? 5) Is there any point in giving da’wah to a sufferer? I would really appreciate that you answer them for me. Thank you.

 :bravo: a very good set of questions.

1. CAUSE OF NPD
Childhood experience.
People diagnosed with NPD see themselves as superior and more deserving of consideration than others, but the real cause of their delusions is a deeply-felt sense of insecurity supported by chronically poor self-esteem.

Rather than surrender to their feelings of unworthiness and lack of trust in themselves, NPD sufferers hide behind an inflated ego and a self-centered approach to human relations. They fail to develop empathy and react to others with cynicism and an overly competitive attitude. Narcissists don a mask of supreme self-confidence and infallibility, but they do it more to fool themselves than to fool others.

Be careful with children, yours or anyone's..
Do not shunned them, do not do anything that can cause them to lose their self esteem.
NPDs felt the continuous need to satisfy the expectation others, especially their parents or figure of authority.

On the other hand, constant praise and permissive attitudes can also lead to inflated egos in children, who grow up as adults believing they can do no wrong.  The child shall then developed NPD due to the constant needs of being praised.

This is apparent with the story of Ramesses, Caligula, Kim, Trump or Herod.

2) Is it the person's fault that they have NPD since childhood?
Might not be, his / her environment plays more role in shaping such personality.

3) Is there any cure for it
Chemical wise no, but a continuous group therapy might works.
People with NPD should concentrate on their process of 'healing and self-discovery' in a safe, non-threatening, non-judgmental environment, their chances of achieving a breakthrough are significantly enhanced.

The Buddhist has unique ritual for developing an anti-ego (read: humility) and self-satisfaction within a person. It is the ritual of begging, which act as an exercise to improve one's humility and lower their ego.

4) Can an actual sufferer become a true, sincere Muslim
If what you meant by this questions is whether NPD can 'recover' from their addiction to inflated ego and praise, thus transforming themselves to become a humble yet self-confident person without any craving for praise, then the answer is YES, but with a very hard efforts.

5) Is there any point in giving da’wah to a sufferer?
If "giving da'wah" is telling him/her bluntly of his/her problem with inflated ego and craving for praise then the answer is NO, it will not work.

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Re: Fir'aoun - Pharaoh a King with acute Narcissistic personality disorder
« Reply #46 on: October 12, 2018, 09:07:05 AM »
Peace Mazhar.
May be the pharaoh you are discussing had a really good personality and was hiding it?
Like they say, quote:
"It is far more impressive when others discover your good qualities without your help."

Sometimes I worry about my personality and the personalities of the ones living . Pharaoh is long gone.
Joke apart, I am not grasping the aim here?
GOD bless you.
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Re: Fir'aoun - Pharaoh a King with acute Narcissistic personality disorder
« Reply #47 on: October 12, 2018, 09:12:45 AM »
Peace Mazhar.
May be the pharaoh you are discussing had a really good personality and was hiding it?
Like they say, quote:
"It is far more impressive when others discover your good qualities without your help."

Sometimes I worry about my personality and the personalities of the ones living . Pharaoh is long gone.
Joke apart, I am not grasping the aim here?
GOD bless you.
Peace.

Just to grasp what is written in the text of the Book.

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Re: Fir'aoun - Pharaoh a King with acute Narcissistic personality disorder
« Reply #48 on: October 12, 2018, 09:23:27 AM »
Thanks brother.
OK, may be Pharaoh was not everyone s favourite but he was someone s favourite whether we like it or not!
To be honest I do not know much about him.
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Re: Fir'aoun - Pharaoh a King with acute Narcissistic personality disorder
« Reply #49 on: October 12, 2018, 11:03:52 AM »
OK, may be Pharaoh was not everyone s favourite but he was someone s favourite whether we like it or not!
To be honest I do not know much about him.

It should be Them, as there are many Pharaohs..
Apparently yes, somebody in this forum has attached herself to Pharaohs..

The title Pharaoh itself is gender less... Cleopatra (female) and Hatshepsut (female) was a Pharaoh.. Specifically for Cleopatra she also clearly shows the symptom of Narcism and Psychopathy..