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Mazhar

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Re: Need help from experts
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2018, 12:44:51 PM »


قَالَ الَّذِي عِندَهُ عِلْمٌ مِّنَ الْكِتَابِ أَنَا آتِيكَ بِهِ قَبْلَ أَن يَرْتَدَّ إِلَيْكَ طَرْفُكَ ۚ فَلَمَّا رَآهُ مُسْتَقِرًّا عِندَهُ قَالَ هَـٰذَا مِن فَضْلِ رَبِّي لِيَبْلُوَنِي أَأَشْكُرُ أَمْ أَكْفُرُ ۖ وَمَن شَكَرَ فَإِنَّمَا يَشْكُرُ لِنَفْسِهِ ۖ وَمَن كَفَرَ فَإِنَّ رَبِّي غَنِيٌّ كَرِيمٌ ﴿٤٠﴾

This is in answer to this question:

قَالَ يَـٰٓأَيُّـهَا ٱلْمَلَؤُا۟ أَيُّكُـمْ يَأْتِينِى بِعَـرْشِهَا قَبْلَ أَن يَأْتُونِـى مُسْلِمِيـنَ

I need not say that questions do not contain metaphors,

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Re: Need help from experts
« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2018, 02:08:28 AM »
Peace All.
Sometimes GOD gives both the literal and the metaphor in the story.
A question that needs to be asked as a basis is;
Was there a Solomon and a queen in the story literally?

Of course the metaphor also makes sense.

For example the story of Noah has a metaphor:
Those who embark on submission to GOD and take the journey with GOD on the straight path will be saved. Those who stay loyal to other systems and ignore the warning will drown in their illusion.
But one can ask was there a real Noah and a real flood as well?

 May be the title of the thread should have asked this difference?
GOD bless you.
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Re: Need help from experts
« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2018, 01:26:05 PM »
Peace All.
A question that needs to be asked as a basis is;
Was there a Solomon and a queen in the story literally
?

Good question  :&  history makes no mention of the empire.   Maybe
their physical empire was more modest.

Of course the metaphor also makes sense.

For example the story of Noah has a metaphor:
Those who embark on submission to GOD and take the journey with GOD
on the straight path will be saved. Those who stay loyal to other systems and
ignore the warning will drown in their illusion.

We can learn from what you have pointed out.


But one can ask was there a real Noah and a real flood as well?

Yes we can ask the question, but which is more important, the lesson
we learn from it or the literality of the story?

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Re: Need help from experts
« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2018, 01:50:23 PM »
I agree brother hawk, what is more important is the lesson that we should learn from the stories in Qoran.

Also, unless we had "videos" of past generations preserved for us, we will continue to argue/discuss/...the details of what really happened, especially if GOD has His reasons for choosing words that  require a lot of ponder/study/research.

GOD has also chosen straight and allegorical stories  for us to unravel.

I see the following(20:114) the best indicator to us to be patient and keep up our study:
فَتَعٰلَى اللَّهُ المَلِكُ الحَقُّ وَلا تَعجَل بِالقُرءانِ مِن قَبلِ أَن يُقضىٰ إِلَيكَ وَحيُهُ وَقُل رَبِّ زِدنى عِلمًا
Indeed ,may the Lord grant us more knowledge.
GOD bless you.
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