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What could 'Badr' mean in 3:123

Started by ajzhyder, September 17, 2018, 11:42:09 PM

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good logic

Peace The Sardar.
Look at yours and look at this Arabic:
Yours: 3:123  وَلَقَدْ نَصَرَكُمُ اللَّهُ بِبَدْرٍ وَأَنتُمْ أَذِلَّةٌ ۖ فَاتَّقُوا اللَّهَ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَشْكُرُونَ

Arabic: 3:123 وَلَقَد نَصَرَكُمُ اللَّهُ بِبَدرٍ وَأَنتُم أَذِلَّةٌ فَاتَّقُوا اللَّهَ لَعَلَّكُم تَشكُرونَ

I can read the second, I cannot read/understand yours. Please explain?
GOD bless you.
Peace
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The Sardar

Quote from: good logic on September 20, 2018, 02:31:53 AM
Peace The Sardar.
Look at yours and look at this Arabic:
Yours: 3:123  وَلَقَدْ نَصَرَكُمُ اللَّهُ بِبَدْرٍ وَأَنتُمْ أَذِلَّةٌ ۖ فَاتَّقُوا اللَّهَ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَشْكُرُونَ

Arabic: 3:123 وَلَقَد نَصَرَكُمُ اللَّهُ بِبَدرٍ وَأَنتُم أَذِلَّةٌ فَاتَّقُوا اللَّهَ لَعَلَّكُم تَشكُرونَ

I can read the second, I cannot read/understand yours. Please explain?
GOD bless you.
Peace
Oh that! That was not from me. That was from Ajzhyder. Check the first post of this topic.

Anoushirvan

Salam,

Badr means full force or full maturity, like a full moon, and fits perfectly in the context of verse 3:123

3:123 And certainly Allah helped you with "full force" while you were weak. So fear Allah so that you may be grateful


Badr as a battle in the Sira of Muhammad comes from the fact that the mythical battles of Muhammad (because I believe these battles never existed) are shaped on the battles of Yehoshua bin Nun (successor of Moses) in the Book of Joshua, and also the Books of Maccabees.

Thus, the first battle that Muhammad is supposed to have fought is at Badr, which means full moon as above, while the first battle of Yehoshua was at Jericho.
However in Hebrew, Jericho is Yeriho, which is assonance with another Hebrew word, yerah, and this word means...tada... full moon !!

There are other similarities, like the second battle of Muhammad at Uhud was a defeat, like the second one of Yehoshua before Ai.

Another similarity is borrowed from the Book of Maccabees. Thus Muhammad is supposed to have fled to Medina, like the Maccabees fled to Modin.

Why having done this ? Justify that Muhammad was the new Yehoshua (Joshua), i.e. the Messiah, or the Christ returned to Earth.

good logic

Peace The Sardar.
You have done it again.
Look at my post 10 and look at your quote from good logic(post11).
My Arabic verse has changed into that gibberish writing again!
May be it is to do with your browser or something technical?
Honest ,it is not my head. It has stopped spinning/
GOD bless you.
Peace
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38:65″ Say:? I warn you; There is no other god beside GOD, the One, the Supreme.?
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huruf

Yes Sardar, your posts, I suppose, it is when you put in arabic text, appears as a ild orgy of different latin letters in all kinds of dressings like miicking several inerplanetary languages, I guess, but nothing that can be read. I thought you did it in purpose, but clearly I was too trusting on that. No I realise you were trying to put in arabic. No single arabic letter appears.

Salaam

The Sardar

Quote from: huruf on September 21, 2018, 02:39:55 AM
Yes Sardar, your posts, I suppose, it is when you put in arabic text, appears as a ild orgy of different latin letters in all kinds of dressings like miicking several inerplanetary languages, I guess, but nothing that can be read. I thought you did it in purpose, but clearly I was too trusting on that. No I realise you were trying to put in arabic. No single arabic letter appears.

Salaam
Huh i dont what is wrong then. You guys are making me a bit worried.

huruf

It may be just a little something that you have rong in some configuration. The informatic orld is full of things like mouses that come and go without noticing but which leave a trail of unwanted and misterious hapennings.

Somewhere sometime as you go along you will discover.

Salaam

Mazhar

Quote from: The Sardar on September 21, 2018, 09:39:01 AM
Huh i dont what is wrong then. You guys are making me a bit worried.

Relax. Nothing wrong. Font was not converted in your first post. Copy paste first post of the thread on Office page in your computer and see whether Arabic font appears. If not install the font on your computer.
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The Sardar

Quote from: Mazhar on September 21, 2018, 10:06:14 AM
Relax. Nothing wrong. Font was not converted in your first post. Copy paste first post of the thread on Office page in your computer and see whether Arabic font appears. If not install the font on your computer.
But i see the arabic text.

Mazhar

Quote from: ajzhyder on September 17, 2018, 11:42:09 PM
Salam
Will appreciate if some one can share opinions about 'Badr' in 3:123. Does it have to be name of a place? Some other opinions I have heard are that it may mean 'Earlier on' or  'Full manifestation'.

3:123  وَلَقَدْ نَصَرَكُمُ اللَّهُ بِبَدْرٍ وَأَنتُمْ أَذِلَّةٌ ۖ فَاتَّقُوا اللَّهَ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَشْكُرُونَ

Thanks

Testing  Result is okay. Let us forget it, some fault somewhere occurred  earlier.
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