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TWO STAGES OF ABRAHAAM/IBRAHEEM.
« on: August 12, 2018, 06:29:48 AM »
IN THE HOLY QURAN I HAD NOTICED AND LATER RESEARCHED THAT ONLY IN SURAH AL-BAQARAH IBRAHEEM IS SPELLED AS (ABRAHAAM) WHILST IN THE OTHER SURAH'S HE IS ONLY MENTIONED AS IBRAHEEM. THERE IS A CLEAR DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BOTH STAGES I FIND THIS INTEREESTING.

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Re: TWO STAGES OF ABRAHAAM/IBRAHEEM.
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2018, 08:24:14 AM »
Salam,
Could you please provide the Aya reference numbers.

Thanks

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Re: TWO STAGES OF ABRAHAAM/IBRAHEEM.
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2018, 08:36:29 AM »
Salam

Aha.

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Re: TWO STAGES OF ABRAHAAM/IBRAHEEM.
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2018, 03:43:57 PM »
IN THE HOLY QURAN I HAD NOTICED AND LATER RESEARCHED THAT ONLY IN SURAH AL-BAQARAH IBRAHEEM IS SPELLED AS (ABRAHAAM) WHILST IN THE OTHER SURAH'S HE IS ONLY MENTIONED AS IBRAHEEM. THERE IS A CLEAR DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BOTH STAGES I FIND THIS INTEREESTING.

Are you talking about English translation or Arabic text? I could not find the difference in Arabic text. Which verse has Abrahaam?

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Re: TWO STAGES OF ABRAHAAM/IBRAHEEM.
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2018, 06:13:13 PM »
peace.

in 69 places where this name mention is either ibrahimu or ibrahima in almost every chapter

its dose'nt matter how one interpret it in English or any other language.

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Re: TWO STAGES OF ABRAHAAM/IBRAHEEM.
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2018, 07:43:45 PM »
IN THE HOLY QURAN I HAD NOTICED AND LATER RESEARCHED THAT ONLY IN SURAH AL-BAQARAH IBRAHEEM IS SPELLED AS (ABRAHAAM) WHILST IN THE OTHER SURAH'S HE IS ONLY MENTIONED AS IBRAHEEM. THERE IS A CLEAR DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BOTH STAGES I FIND THIS INTEREESTING.

Peace, in oldest manuscripts spelled same with ى (ya) e.g. 2:260:3 ابرهىم Ibrahim ا ب ر ه ى م

https://corpuscoranicum.de/handschriften/index/sure/2/vers/260?handschrift=163


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Re: TWO STAGES OF ABRAHAAM/IBRAHEEM.
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2018, 11:01:24 PM »
Salaam,


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note:
In chapter 2 the word Ibrahim is written I B R H M  ابرهم    in 12 verses ( 15 times ) and in the rest of the quran it is written I B R H I M  ابرهيم    in 51 verses (54 times ) in 24 chapters, in the quran we have today ( 114 chapters and 6236 verses ).

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In this manuscript in chapter 2 the word Ibrahim is written:

 I B R H I M   ابرهيم

https://corpuscoranicum.de/handschriften/index/sure/2/vers/132/handschrift/163
https://corpuscoranicum.de/handschriften/index/sure/2/vers/126/handschrift/163

                                           
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In this manuscript in chapter 2  the word Ibrahim is written:

sometimes I B R H M  ابرهم  and sometimes   I B R H I M  ابرهيم

https://corpuscoranicum.de/handschriften/index/sure/2/vers/124/handschrift/170
https://corpuscoranicum.de/handschriften/index/sure/2/vers/125/handschrift/170/flip/1
https://corpuscoranicum.de/handschriften/index/sure/2/vers/130/handschrift/170/flip/1
https://corpuscoranicum.de/handschriften/index/sure/2/vers/133/handschrift/170/flip/1


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It might be related to this:

Bible
Genesis 17:5

" Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee. "





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Re: TWO STAGES OF ABRAHAAM/IBRAHEEM.
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2018, 06:28:21 AM »
Salaam,

It might be related to this:

Bible
Genesis 17:5

" Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee. "

Peace, is this about numerology ? why in oldest manuscripts it's spelled the same?

https://corpuscoranicum.de/handschriften/index/sure/2/vers/260?handschrift=878


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Re: TWO STAGES OF ABRAHAAM/IBRAHEEM.
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2018, 07:03:37 AM »
Salaam,



All occurrences of the word Ibrahim in chapter 2, In this manuscript:

13 times?    I B R H M  ابرهم   and    2 times?   I B R H I M  ابرهيم


https://corpuscoranicum.de/handschriften/index/sure/2/vers/124/handschrift/170
   2:124         not visible
   2:125     I B R H M     ابرهم   
   2:125     I B R H M     ابرهم   
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https://corpuscoranicum.de/handschriften/index/sure/2/vers/126/handschrift/170
   2:126     I B R H M     ابرهم   
   2:127    I B R H M      ابرهم   
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https://corpuscoranicum.de/handschriften/index/sure/2/vers/132/handschrift/170
   2:130    I B R H M     ابرهم   
   2:132   I B R H M      ابرهم   
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https://corpuscoranicum.de/handschriften/index/sure/2/vers/135/handschrift/170
   2:133   I B R H M     ابرهم   
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https://corpuscoranicum.de/handschriften/index/sure/2/vers/136/handschrift/170
   2:135   I B R H M     ابرهم   
   2:136   I B R H M     ابرهم   
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https://corpuscoranicum.de/handschriften/index/sure/2/vers/140/handschrift/170
   2:140    I B R H M     ابرهم   
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https://corpuscoranicum.de/handschriften/index/sure/2/vers/258/handschrift/170
   2:258   I B R H I M      ابرهيم  ( not sure, difficult to see )
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https://corpuscoranicum.de/handschriften/index/sure/2/vers/259/handschrift/170
   2:258    I B R H M          ابرهم   ( not sure, difficult to see )
   2:258   I B R H I M         ابرهيم     ( not sure, difficult to see )
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https://corpuscoranicum.de/handschriften/index/sure/2/vers/259/handschrift/170/flip/1
   2:260  I B R H M      ابرهم   ( not sure, difficult to see )

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In chapter 2 the word Ibrahim is written IBRHM  ابرهم    in 12 verses ( 15 times ) and in the rest of the quran it is written IBRHIM  ابرهيم    in 51 verses (54 times ) in 24 chapters, in the Quran we have today ( 114 chapters and 6236 verses ).

There must be a motivation, source to write the word " IBRHM     ابرهم "  in chapter 2,
 and   " IBRHIM      ابرهيم  "   the rest of the Qur'an.




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Re: TWO STAGES OF ABRAHAAM/IBRAHEEM.
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2018, 07:31:32 AM »
^^^ again "oldest" manuscripts it's spelled same and the manuscripts you showed are 100+ years later.