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huruf

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Re: Question about Hijab
« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2018, 11:40:22 PM »
Salam!

Please do not mix two different things.

Head cover or outer garment to cover bosoms [see 24:31] has nothing to do with 'Hijab'.
Hijab means 'screen' or 'partition'. Hijab was ordered only to the wives of the Prophet. [see 33:53].

I think head covers were used by almost all men and women of Arabia in order to avoid desert sun. It had nothing to do with traditions or fashion either.

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Just a little clarification, the hijab was not ordered to the wives of the prophet but to those who came to the wives of the prophet for some errand or need, so that the wives were the least incommodated.
Part of the whole endeavour the the prophet's and his wives time an intimay were not taken wholly away by the needs of his followers.

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Re: Question about Hijab
« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2018, 12:52:53 AM »
Just a little clarification, the hijab was not ordered to the wives of the prophet but to those who came to the wives of the prophet for some errand or need, so that the wives were the least incommodated.
Part of the whole endeavour the the prophet's and his wives time an intimay were not taken wholly away by the needs of his followers.

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Salam sister huruf! Where do you think a screen/partition could have been placed/hanged/erected? Do you think that the visitors had to carry something to screen themselves from the wives of the Prophet every time they had to ask them something? It does not seem practical to me.
I think a screen/partition was already present/arranged in 'the house' after this Ayat's revelation, either by the Prophet himself or by his wives, who are focused and addressed/commanded indirectly.
Hope you understand my point since I am not very good in English.

Peace!

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Re: Question about Hijab
« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2018, 04:39:01 AM »
Salam sister huruf! Where do you think a screen/partition could have been placed/hanged/erected? Do you think that the visitors had to carry something to screen themselves from the wives of the Prophet every time they had to ask them something? It does not seem practical to me.
I think a screen/partition was already present/arranged in 'the house' after this Ayat's revelation, either by the Prophet himself or by his wives, who are focused and addressed/commanded indirectly.
Hope you understand my point since I am not very good in English.

Peace!
In fact the wives of the propet are not ordered anything, it is those we want to ask something from them who are ordered to do so behind a hijab. The ladies are not ordered anything at all.

As to who put it up, I do not think it is that what matters, a worker could have donet, does not matter.

But because we are speaking about the "today's hijab" which is not the Qur'an hijab and there has been a lot of pushing to make it appear as a duty for women for the convenience of males so that they are not tempted by de "beauty" of the females, I wanted to have it stated that the qura'nic hijab is ordered not as something for the ladies, but for those who want to request anything from them. No order is there for the wives to keep behind a hijab but for those who want something from the women who I guess, since nothing is said otherwise that they may be male or female. Even more likely to be female. 

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Re: Question about Hijab
« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2018, 04:58:07 AM »
Peace reel,

Hijab is actually not just an Arab thing, but a Middle Eastern thing in general. Most Middle Eastern cultures have some sort of headwear, which was incorporated into their religions. (That's why you will also find thing similar to the hijab as part of Christianity and Judaism).

That being said, I do agree that the hijab is not truly part of Islam. I don't wear it either, because it is mentioned nowhere in the Quran. (It's not even hinted at, lol).

It is a weather thing made to appear Islamic.
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Re: Question about Hijab
« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2019, 01:27:32 PM »
I personally don't care about 'culture', it's not important to me...I understand that you may feel more modest when wearing a hijab but the truth is, you probably only feel that way because of what the sunnis say...I bet if you didn't wear it you might at first feel a little uncomfortable but over time you'd get used to it until you feel just as modest without a headscarf. Remember, the hair is not a private part of your body, it's just hair...lol
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Re: Question about Hijab
« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2019, 10:51:47 AM »
I personally don't care about 'culture', it's not important to me...I understand that you may feel more modest when wearing a hijab but the truth is, you probably only feel that way because of what the sunnis say...I bet if you didn't wear it you might at first feel a little uncomfortable but over time you'd get used to it until you feel just as modest without a headscarf. Remember, the hair is not a private part of your body, it's just hair...lol


Salam/Peace dear sister, check this topic out about 24:31 which has been sadly abused by Hadithists: https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610222.0

P.S Hijab in the Qur'an does not connect to any clothes of any matter, check 7:46, 17:45, 19:17, 33:53, 38:32, 41:5, 42:51 in Qur'an

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Re: Question about Hijab
« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2019, 05:48:20 AM »
I think if a woman wants to wear a headscarf it's fine. It can also be a cultural thing but if she feels it makes her more modest/decent then sure. I personally like the Pakistani loose shawl style (dupatta) the most.

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Re: Question about Hijab
« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2019, 10:20:56 AM »
  The Qu'ran never specified what type of head covering to use (or what parts of the head needed to be covered). So I was wondering if other woman on this board wear hijab? If so how they wear it and why they wear it the way they do?

 I personally try to do a historical European/American twist on it, because I'm white so I want to break the stereotype that because I'm Muslim I'm abandoning my culture (and I don't like tight things around my neck). I want to remain modest though. so I generally wear a scarf wrapped loosely around a slouchy hat.   

Salaam,
I don't currently wear a scarf. Some days I do, some days I don't. I am not sure what your beliefs are but some Quran only Muslims think that it is not talked about in the Quran. But I have read different opinions on this. Some say the term Khimar does refer to a scarf that was cover your head, others say that we shouldn't really focus on the meaning of that word but the meaning of the passage. Which states "And tell the believing women to reduce [some] of their vision and guard their private parts and not expose their adornment except that which [necessarily] appears thereof and to wrap [a portion of] their headcovers over their chests and not expose their adornment except to their husbands...etc" (42:31). This means to not expose your chest and to cover it. whether that means using a scarf or not wearing low collar shirts or something.
I am not going to say the Quran specifically supports it and doesn't support it. But I think turbans are great. I love turbans or just wearing a hat. I think it's great.
here are 2 different links to the topic. Both websites are Quran only viewpoints and they say 2 different things.

https://www.quranaloneislam.net/women-s-dress-code

http://www.quran-islam.org/articles/women_dress_code_(P1150).html

personally, I think I agree with the first one more...its better to cover and be wrong, then not cover and be wrong and end up in hellfire for arrogance. especially if you are doing it for the right reasons and not committing idolatry by following other sources outside of the Quran.
 I haven't decided which one I agree with...and just because other Quran only Muslims believe one thing doesn't mean it's true...we need to read the text for ourselves and come to that conclusion on our own.
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