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« Reply #30 on: March 25, 2020, 04:43:35 AM »
Peace jkhan.
6:158 is talking about one event only ,the day we see GOD and the angels-Day of judgement. This makes better sense:

Are they waiting for the angels to come to them, or your Lord, or some physical manifestations of your Lord? The day this happens, no soul will benefit from believing if it did not believe before that, and did not reap the benefits of belief by leading a righteous life.* Say, "Keep on waiting; we too are waiting."
هَل يَنظُرونَ إِلّا أَن تَأتِيَهُمُ المَلٰئِكَةُ أَو يَأتِىَ رَبُّكَ أَو يَأتِىَ بَعضُ ءايٰتِ رَبِّكَ يَومَ يَأتى بَعضُ ءايٰتِ رَبِّكَ لا يَنفَعُ نَفسًا إيمٰنُها لَم تَكُن ءامَنَت مِن قَبلُ أَو كَسَبَت فى إيمٰنِها خَيرًا قُلِ انتَظِروا إِنّا مُنتَظِرونَ

i.e Too late to believe and grow your soul,like we are supposed to do in this life.The soul is lost if one waited until they saw the Angels or GOD.
Remember some people described Jesus and his miracles as an end sign. We are always closer to the end. This whole life is like few hours or even only like an hour,  It goes like a blinking of the eye.. How long are millions of years compared to eternity.?
GOD bless you.

Translation of yours and in Corpus has huge difference... It doesn't say when. The day it happens...but see word by word...


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« Reply #31 on: July 04, 2020, 04:58:21 AM »

Based on the responces here, I am inclined to believe that the ‘daba’ is even simpler than I had initially thought.

The 2 verses that proceed 27:82 as brother Jkhan shared are indeed meaningful to this topic.

Here is a breakdown of some of the key words in this prophecy:

Daba = Movement/Moving Creature
Min Alardh = from the ground/earth
Tukalim = Speaks/Speech/Talk

As a sign from God that the retribution is now due, a ‘thing’ that can move is brought out from the earth and it “talks” to people.

The 2 verses that Jkhan pointed to speak twice about “hearing/listening”.

So, what is the item that has been made from earthly material that is both mobile and is related to speaking/listening?

If we look at these timelines of the moon landing in 1969 (54:1), the mobile phone being invented in 1973 (27:82), and the mathematical structure of the Quran being discovered in 1974 (74:29-30) - then I would say we are in for a wild ride perhaps in our lifetimes!

`And when God Alone is mentioned, the hearts of those who do not believe in the Hereafter are filled with aversion; and when others are mentioned beside Him, they rejoice!` (The Quran 39:45)