WHY SHOULD KAFFIRS BURN IN HELL?

[NewFrenzy]

Well, Quran alone are idol worshippers, they made an idol out of a single book, which they don't even understand, thus limiting their perception and worldview down to a single piece..

Agree.

Followers of Aurangzaib Yousufzai is happy with what it has
Followers of Sam G is happy with what it has
Followers of Mazhar is happy with what it has
Followers of هَوَىٰهُ is happy with what it has

too many idols to follow

[hawk99]

Just explain me WHY according to Quran kaffirs and idol worshippers should burn in hell just because they didnt not believe in divinity of islam?

Peace MaryK, any ayats to support the above claim?  What is the "divinity" of Quran?
What is Islam according to your view?

Why person is condemned to hell according to his beliefs and not his actions and good deeds?

What is hell in your view?  Which beliefs condemns one to hell?

"And whoever has not believed in Allah and His Messenger - then indeed, We have prepared for the disbelievers a Blaze"

What is the context of this ayat?

[good logic]

Indeed why should "Kaffirs" burn in hell?

We have already seen that "Kaffirs" are not easy to identify for us humans and GOD has made it His business Alone to try people and identify His "Kaffirs".
There fore ,if we do not know, we should try and identify ourselves, who we are and what we do, then concentrate on that task to avoid being a "Kaffir".
Secondly do we really know what is hell? where is it? How is it /will be set up? for what souls?...etc. We have some allegorical descriptions of hell, they sound horrendous, no imagination possible can identify this place called hell yet!!!
So we do not know "Kaffirs" nor do we know what "hell" is/will be.
How can we possibly comment? We will be making assumptions and using our imagination.
GOD bless you all.
Peace.

[huruf]

Are you repeating this

Al-Baqarah 2:80

And they say, "Never will the Fire touch us, except for a few days." Say,"Have you taken a covenant with Allah ? For Allah will never break His covenant. Or do you say about Allah that which you do not know?"
Yes, whoever earns evil and his sin has encompassed him - those are the companions of the Fire; they will abide therein eternally.

Why do you choose khlidwun to mean "eternally".

How can you say that hell is eternal as God? which word in Qur'an means eternal speaking about God?

Salaam

[jkhan]

We cannot compare the ETERNITY of God with anything, but Kha / L / D خ ل د referring the eternity? read below verses and take the possible meaning out of it to come to a conclusion.

Also note that God has never stated in quran that He will destroy the Paradise or Hell one day and make a state of nothingness?


7:20 But Satan whispered to them to make apparent to them that which was concealed from them of their private parts. He said, "Your Lord did not forbid you this tree except that you become angels or become of the immortal."
7:20 Then Satan whispered to them, to reveal to them that which was hidden from them of their shameful parts. He said, 'Your Lord has only prohibited you from this tree lest you become angels, or lest you become immortals.'

21:8 And We did not make the prophets forms not eating food, nor were they immortal [on earth] : Sahih International
21:8 nor did We fashion them as bodies that ate not food, neither were they immortal; Arbery

21:34  And We did not grant to any man before you eternity [on earth]; so if you die - would they be eternal? Sahih International
21: 34 We have not assigned to any mortal before thee to live forever; therefore, if thou diest, will they live forever? Arbery

according to the context of the verse 7:20 it speaks non other than immortals.. i don't see any other possible meaning to it with my knowledge.. if anyone knows, it's most welcome to reveal it to consider to my knowledge

and as per verse 21:8, it's again manifest by God Himself it is immortal

lastly in verse 21:34 it obviously clear God compares DEATH to IMMORTALITY ....

In my opinion Hell and paradise are kind of eternal thing... unless human got the meaning of ETERNITY to something else.. ETERNITY MAY HAVE ENDING TOO, SINCE OUR KNOWLEDGE OF ETERNITY IS BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE REALIZED IN THIS WORLD. I DON'T MEAN TO SAY THAT WE WILL LIVE IN THE SAME PARADISE OR HELL ETERNALLY.. THAT GOD ONLY KNOWS...

i have seen a verse, unfortunately i cannot recollect, which reads something like this...
" And they will in the Hell as long as God wills... and they will live in paradise as long God wills"... this verse gives me a hint that we may not live in the same hell or paradise eternally... but there is no promise from God that our soul will get terminated to nothingness..

Hope below verse may have a meaning if we think Paradise is eternal

44:56 They will not taste death therein except the first death, and He will have protected them from the punishment of Hellfire.

44:56 They shall not taste therein of death, save the first death, And He shall guard them against the chastisement of Hell --

thanx for reading....   

[The Sardar]

i have seen a verse, unfortunately i cannot recollect, which reads something like this...
" And they will in the Hell as long as God wills... and they will live in paradise as long God wills"... this verse gives me a hint that we may not live in the same hell or paradise eternally... but there is no promise from God that our soul will get terminated to nothingness..

That would be 11:106-108

[jkhan]

Thank you The Sardar for your effort...
that's the very verse i was referring......

so i copy paste as under for those who has never read it before..

11:106-108 / Arbery ; As for the wretched, they shall be in the Fire, wherein there shall be for them moaning and sighing, therein dwelling forever,
so long as the heavens and earth abide, save as thy Lord will; surely thy Lord accomplishes what He desires.
And as for the happy, they shall be in Paradise, therein dwelling forever, so long as the heavens and earth abide, save as thy Lord will -- for a gift unbroken.
thanx

[imrankhawaja]

logically when a person complete his/her sentence for crimes then its mean its level.

courts work in same way with the criminals so do God
what is the punishment its not experienced by anybody yet may b its a state of lonliness

punishment of fire and punishment of cold are metaphors

and yeh when punishment of something completed then its not fair to keep criminal in custody otherwise its another crime so God will not gona do any crime by keeping people in sentence when they finsihed/resolved their cases infront of God. God is the only source of perect justice

but even if we go through the worldly way here we have something to ponder about
let say hitler or changaiz khan if they held reaponsible for multimillions deaths

life time prison of 14 years for one crime multiply by one million deaths = 14 million years sentence

rest of the things God knows his secrets alone

yeh one more thing the real permanent being is only supreme being who created all this and logically he can only exist as immortal somewhere in chapter 55 its written when there will nothing left in this time space te face of your lord will b there so we can see after this life we have a state of relaxtion a first stage not the last one and then for making that life interesting God will or can also change the stage,state,nature and ranks of individual let see what he do but our first task is here at planet earth need to be qualified for other tasks what he is getting done from other beings

blessing in the name of God


 

[NewFrenzy]

punishment of fire and punishment of cold are metaphors

90% of Quran is metaphors

[TellMeTheTruth]

90% of Quran is metaphors

This is what people say when they do not understand a thing. There is no hidden meaning of Qura'n. It is a "Mubeen" book. If there are any hidden meanings then only Allah knows them.
You cannot even define the word "Kufr" or "Kafir" so how can you understand the whole book?

Peace!