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Why do you believe that alQuraan is sent down from Allah?

I believe so because I born in a Muslim family
0 (0%)
I believe so because I read and understood it in my language and found it to be unique
6 (28.6%)
I believe so because of challenges given in alQuraan to produce a sura like in it
8 (38.1%)
I don't believe that alQuraan is from Allah, but some intelligent people wrote it
0 (0%)
I don't believe that alQuraan is from Allah, but HUM or WE [some other creation] sent it
2 (9.5%)
I don't believe that alQuraan is from Allah as it has many contradictions
2 (9.5%)
I don't care if it is from Allah or not, it doesn't matter, I just take what is good from it
3 (14.3%)
I don't want to answer this question
0 (0%)

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Re: :: Why do you believe that alQuraan is sent down from Allah? ::
« Reply #90 on: July 15, 2018, 01:21:55 PM »
Peace Makaveli.
So you have not checked the "interlock" system of Qoran?

As far as my checking goes ,I believe we have the original Qoran, with an interlock system of letters, words, verses and surahs. Impossible to imitate, alter ,add to or take away from.
But of course that is my checking of its numbering patterns and locks, no faith required anymore .
GOD bless you.
Peace.
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Re: :: Why do you believe that alQuraan is sent down from Allah? ::
« Reply #91 on: September 08, 2018, 11:49:59 AM »
So you have not checked the "interlock" system of Qoran?

As far as my checking goes ,I believe we have the original Qoran, with an interlock system of letters, words, verses and surahs. Impossible to imitate, alter ,add to or take away from.

Peace good logic,

Recently I came across almost about 22 different versions of alQuraan. Don't be emotional bro, just think about it.
6:162    قل إن صلاتي ونسكي ومحياي ومماتي لله رب العلمين
6:162    Say: My contact prayer, and my rites, and my life, and my death, are all to Allah, Lord of the worlds.
 
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Re: :: Why do you believe that alQuraan is sent down from Allah? ::
« Reply #92 on: September 08, 2018, 01:20:00 PM »
Peace mmkhan.
Nice to hear from you brother.
22 versions?  There may be many ,but GOD Anzala only one.

And we do not even need to think, just count the letters/numbers of surahs, verses, words...etc
But thinking is required for understanding the message once we know for sure/are certain GOD has sent a message.
GOD bless you.
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Re: :: Why do you believe that alQuraan is sent down from Allah? ::
« Reply #93 on: September 09, 2018, 12:26:09 AM »
So you have not checked the "interlock" system of Qoran?

peace, you are asking to check something without telling how.
show how interlock or whatever works explain which is correct?

https://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra/pharaohs_magicians_detailed.html
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In the following, we present another example of parallel accounts containing major verbal variations:

2:58 واذ and when قلنا qul'nā/said we of
1.   ادخلوا ud'khulū/enters ye of هذه this القرىه the town
2.   فكلوا fakulū/so eat ye of منها therein حىث anyplace شىتم like you رغدا freely

7:161 واذ and when قىل qīla/stated لهم to them
1.   اسكنوا us'kunū/settles ye of هذه this القرىه the town
2.   وكلوا wakulū/and eat ye of منها therein حىث anyplace شىتم like you


There is more above although want to keep simple and verified old manuscripts.

https://corpuscoranicum.de/handschriften/index/sure/2/vers/58?handschrift=163
see translation link: https://s15.postimg.cc/5ky2gd6sb/ch2v55-62.jpg

https://corpuscoranicum.de/handschriften/index/sure/7/vers/161/handschrift/163
see translation link: https://s15.postimg.cc/7o8ho3jgr/ch7v157-163.jpg


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Re: :: Why do you believe that alQuraan is sent down from Allah? ::
« Reply #94 on: September 09, 2018, 03:42:25 AM »
Peace Noon.
So you believe Qoran  is not from GOD and has contradictions?
I do not get your post.
To me ,your post applies to you since you have no proof of what is original Qoran?
You need to sort out your "old manuscripts".
I have already said to you ,for me ,the hafs version we have today is the original Qoran according to my checking of its numerical composition.
GOD bless you.
Peace
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Re: :: Why do you believe that alQuraan is sent down from Allah? ::
« Reply #95 on: September 09, 2018, 05:15:06 AM »
Peace Noon.
So you believe Qoran  is not from GOD and has contradictions?
I do not get your post.
To me ,your post applies to you since you have no proof of what is original Qoran?
You need to sort out your "old manuscripts".
I have already said to you ,for me ,the hafs version we have today is the original Qoran according to my checking of its numerical composition.
GOD bless you.
Peace
I don't think he mentioned anything that Qur'an is not from God. Brother Noon made a topic on this "Hafs & Warsh" of The Qur'an:

https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610132.msg414793#msg414793

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Re: :: Why do you believe that alQuraan is sent down from Allah? ::
« Reply #96 on: September 09, 2018, 09:31:23 AM »
Yes brother The Sardar.
That was a question not an assumption . It is related to the article he included..
Also which version of Qoran was sent down originally? Evidence?
This is the most important question.
GOD bless you.
Peace.
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Re: :: Why do you believe that alQuraan is sent down from Allah? ::
« Reply #97 on: September 09, 2018, 09:33:40 AM »
You need to sort out your "old manuscripts".
I have already said to you ,for me ,the hafs version we have today is the original Qoran according to my checking of its numerical composition.

peace, wording is consistent in old and new manuscripts?

2:58 واذ and when قلنا qul'nā/said we of
1.   ادخلوا ud'khulū/enters ye of هذه this القرىه the town
2.   فكلوا fakulū/so eat ye of منها therein حىث anyplace شىتم like you رغدا freely

7:161 واذ and when قىل qīla/stated لهم to them
1.  اسكنوا us'kunū/settles ye of هذه this القرىه the town
2.   وكلوا wakulū/and eat ye of منها therein حىث anyplace شىتم like you

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Re: :: Why do you believe that alQuraan is sent down from Allah? ::
« Reply #98 on: September 09, 2018, 10:00:00 AM »
Peace Noon.
 How do you measure the  consistency/inconsistency/difference?
GOD bless you.
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Re: :: Why do you believe that alQuraan is sent down from Allah? ::
« Reply #99 on: September 09, 2018, 10:12:59 AM »
How do you measure the  consistency/inconsistency/difference?

peace good logic, cannot resolve above by measuring/counting anything rather by careful study!

4:82 افلا do so not ىتدبرون they reflecting القران the qur’an/recitation ولو and in case كان be من from عند near/with غىر other than الله the god لوجدوا surely found they of فىه in it اختلفا ikhtilafan/divergences of (single occurrence) كثىرا kathiran/much of (3+)