WIDTH OF HEAVEN AND WIDTH OF EARTH.. ARE THEY EQUAL AS PER 57:21

[jkhan]

peace, are the birds in flight stationary? 

35:41 ان indeed الله the god ىمسك yum'siku/holdeth السموت the skies والارض and the land ان lest تزولا tazūlā/cease dual ولىن and surely if زالتا zālatā/cease dual ان not امسكهما holds them dual من any احد one من from بعده after him انه indeed he كان be حلىما tolerant of غفورا forgiver of 

67:19 اولم do they not ىروا seeth they of الى to الطىر the flyer (birds, etc.) فوقهم above them صفت spread (wings) وىقبضن and fold inward ما not ىمسكهن yum'sikuhunna/holdeth them (i.e. in flight) الا only الرحمن the almighty انه indeed he بكل in every شى thing بصىر seer

Therefore, not stationary rather holds them in flight/motion like our planet and everything.



Paris, National Library of France: Arabic 328 (c)
Radiocarbon measurement 568-645 CE (95.4%) parchment
https://corpuscoranicum.de/handschriften/index/sure/21/vers/33?handschrift=158

Peace

How nonsensical you are by comparing birds in flight to God holding the earth and heaven..... We know birds flying sun moving stars moving moon moving flights moving winds moving Malika moving jins moving... Just you are a strawnan..... All they can move coz the earth and heaven is stationary.....  Brother... One day in the process of passing  of time you will in sha Allah get what is reality in case you are true believer in the eyes of God...  Keep learning .... Till then believe what you fantastic picture... That's only solar system of trillions...  How deluded these brains.... Yeah Satan is great when you become weak....

[jkhan]

Peace good brother, I think you misunderstand what I am trying
to convey.
I did not omit the verses only highlighting the gist of the message!

57:04 <sub>?It is He who created the heavens and earth in six days

and then established Himself above the Throne. He knows what

penetrates into the earth and what emerges from it and what

DESCENDS from the Heaven(Sama) and what ASCENDS in it;</sub>

and He is with you wherever you are.
And Allah , of what you do, is Seeing.?

like I pointed out earlier The first six ayats of surah 57 is about Allah

and:

The next five ayats are directed at believers.

Here we go:

[57:7] Believe in Allah and His Messenger and spend out of that in
which He has made you successors. For those who have believed
among you and spent, there will be a great reward.

[57:8] And what reason have you that you should not believe in
Allah? And the Messenger calls on you that you may believe in
your Lord, and indeed He has made a covenant with you
if you are believers.

[57:9]  It is He who sends down upon His Servant  verses of clear
evidence that He may bring you out from darkness into the light.
And indeed, Allah is to you Kind and Merciful.

[57:10]  And why do you not spend in the cause of Allah while to
Allah belongs the heritage of the heavens and the earth? Not
equal among you are those who spent before the conquest and
fought [and those who did so after it]. Those are greater in degree
than they who spent afterwards and fought. But to all Allah has
promised the best. And Allah , with what you do, is Acquainted.

[57:11] Who is it that would loan Allah a goodly loan so He will
multiply it for him and he will have a noble reward?

I hope you get how these eleven verses contextualize the
believers relationship with their lord.       

Peace...
Go read again pls....  If you don't find ascend and descend then atleast find in the picture above what noon walqalami pasted... Till your head spinn you won't  find ascend and descend... That's fair... No time brother for strawnan logic...
People are getting what is right....  Email messages are letting me know that.... Even one member reminded this is the most viewed/read topic for whatever the reason.. Same as most searched topic in Google is flat earth.. God knows why this resurgence ..... God kept hiding in the deception and letting lose gradually....  Who is iblees with the plan of God..

[Noon waalqalami]

How nonsensical you are by comparing birds in flight

peace, nonsensical is your every clueless post.
likewise doesn?t say "move" rather cease/stop.

35:41 ولىن and surely if زالتا zālatā/cease dual

21:15 زالت zālat/cease تلك this دعوهم call theirs

[jkhan]

peace, nonsensical is your every clueless post.
likewise doesn?t say "move" rather cease/stop.

35:41 ولىن and surely if زالتا zālatā/cease dual

21:15 زالت zālat/cease تلك this دعوهم call theirs

I have already told you not to waste time with those who are insane coz globe heads are intelligent and convinced....  If still you want to mingle here in this topic then you have an issue in your well accepted theory.... It's okay learn from those who challenge...

It reminds me a message may be almost 10 months before,  she told me if QURAN says world is spinning why these people struggle to bring verses to support it while others bring to support earth is stationary.....  I won't forget her message... That's the problem....
Even in flat earth society I was wondering why all Globeheads flocking....  And keep parroting NASA while flat Earthers challenge each and every thing... Some say there are other for fun... Some say they want to stop flat earth movement..  ....
Finally don't waste time people if you are on the right side... Open a topic of your own keep presenting earth and heaven is spinning according to Quran... So people will leave this topic and join there..... Of you are rightly guided... Do it... Take the challenge...  In the end if you are right the one who reads them also will get guided... So why wait...
meanwhile I will continue in sha Allah with what my God guided me with....
We are dummy people.. Right... You are the one who claimed... And other of your cluster keep mocking with various ways... So why still in this topic... Okay.. I can't tell you to go away... It's your freedom you are here... But why with dummy people while you are intelligent... That not an intelligent option... 

[TellMeTheTruth]

peace, nonsensical is your every clueless post.
likewise doesn?t say "move" rather cease/stop.

35:41 ولىن and surely if زالتا zālatā/cease dual

21:15 زالت zālat/cease تلك this دعوهم call theirs

Salam all!
This is a point to think over. It should be "ceased to exist". Can someone please share root meanings of زول here?
Peace!

[jkhan]

Salam all!
This is a point to think over. It should be "ceased to exist". Can someone please share root meanings of زول here?
Peace!

Yes.... We know that it has meaning of decline / remove as well
Peace

[Noon waalqalami]

So why still in this topic... Okay.. I can't tell you to go away... It's your freedom you are here... But why with dummy people while you are intelligent... That not an intelligent option...

peace, not posting to convert flat earth people a lost cause, they lack basics, etc.
rather it's to correct erroneous posts and bizarre translations for benefit of others. 

[jkhan]

peace, nonsensical is your every clueless post.
likewise doesn?t say "move" rather cease/stop.

35:41 ولىن and surely if زالتا zālatā/cease dual

21:15 زالت zālat/cease تلك this دعوهم call theirs

My goodness...
What a twister of words you are...
21:15 and 35:41 are totally different letters and words...
I mean to say different meaning... Check 14:46
Chwck
Hypocrocy at best...

[Noon waalqalami]

My goodness...
What a twister of words you are...
21:15 and 35:41 are totally different letters and words...
Hypocrocy at best...

another clueless ignorant post  not knowing basic difference trailing alif refers to dual.
really should study basic stuff, language, science, etc., you're embarrassing yourself.

[jkhan]

Even if you are to apply cease or stop in these verses you won't get a concrete meaning .... Translate it pls... Then let's see with reality and science and yiur accepted myth... How that works