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Re: WIDTH OF HEAVEN AND WIDTH OF EARTH.. ARE THEY EQUAL AS PER 57:21
« Reply #220 on: April 30, 2018, 09:42:11 PM »
Realize it's logical to find the Earth to be a spherical object and you appear quite stupid to believe the Earth to be flat in the light of all ways to observe the case.

Its called PERSPECTIVE my friend
better still, go buy a good binoculars especially the one used by the military and station yourself anywhere you can see a ship in the horizon,
not just the mast but the FULL BODY of that far distance ship will be shown in clear view into your very eyes

btw, lighthouse to no use in globe earth theory.

go watch the video bro jkhan has provided to educate yourself

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Re: WIDTH OF HEAVEN AND WIDTH OF EARTH.. ARE THEY EQUAL AS PER 57:21
« Reply #221 on: April 30, 2018, 10:03:43 PM »
(from the Book of Adam)

The "Bright Nature" of man is taken away.

THEN Adam wept and said, "O God, when we dwelt in the garden, and our hearts were lifted up, we saw the angels that sang praises in heaven, but now we do not see as we were used to do; nay, when we entered the cave, all creation became hidden from us."

2 Then God the Lord said unto Adam, "When thou wast under subjection to Me, thou hadst a bright nature within thee, and for that reason couldst thou see things afar off. But after thy transgression thy bright nature was withdrawn from thee; and it was not left to thee to see things afar off, but only near at hand; after the ability of the flesh; for it is brutish."

3 When Adam and Eve had heard these words from God, they went their way; praising and worshipping Him with a sorrowful heart.

https://youtu.be/0xWsuFLdgBs


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Re: WIDTH OF HEAVEN AND WIDTH OF EARTH.. ARE THEY EQUAL AS PER 57:21
« Reply #222 on: April 30, 2018, 10:04:20 PM »
Salaam,

ECLIPSE OF FANTASY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaXJzhJ9wrc

hope it can helps..

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Re: WIDTH OF HEAVEN AND WIDTH OF EARTH.. ARE THEY EQUAL AS PER 57:21
« Reply #223 on: May 01, 2018, 12:46:55 AM »
Just below are two google searches as it is i copied

The diameter of the Sun is 1,390,000 km. Just for comparison, the diameter of the Earth is only 12,742 km. This means that you could put 109 Earths side-by-side to match the diameter of the Sun. And if you wanted to try and fill up the Sun with Earths, it would take 1.3 million Earths to match the volume of the Sun.May 31, 2010

What star is as big as the sun?
Largest ever yellow star is 1300 times bigger than sun. A monster version of our sun has been found, the largest known member of the family of yellow stars to which our sun belongs. The whopper sun emits light in similar wavelengths as our sun but its diameter is over 1300 times larger.


Now look at the verse 39:67 which says..
Sahih International: They have not appraised Allah with true appraisal, while the earth entirely will be [within] His grip on the Day of Resurrection, and the heavens will be folded in His right hand. Exalted is He and high above what they associate with Him.

Pickthall: And they esteem not Allah as He hath the right to be esteemed, when the whole earth is His handful on the Day of Resurrection, and the heavens are rolled in His right hand. Glorified is He and High Exalted from all that they ascribe as partner (unto Him).


Mohsin Khan: They made not a just estimate of Allah such as is due to Him. And on the Day of Resurrection the whole of the earth will be grasped by His Hand and the heavens will be rolled up in His Right Hand. Glorified is He, and High is He above all that they associate as partners with Him!

Arberry: They measure not God with His true measure. The earth altogether shall be His handful on the Day of Resurrection, and the heavens shall be rolled up in His right hand. Glory be to Him! High be He exalted above that they associate!

Now just imagine just the sun and one star how huge they are compared to earth. And ponder why would god say Earth (this tiny mote) to be separate and handful and the rest is in right hand.. Ponder O quran followers. Isn't this a joke of a verse unless you accept the earth to be as vast and huge as heavens. Problem is as the verse start, they esteem not God such as is due to Him.. That's what you measured with NASA.. keep it up.. i will remind who know who goes and take right path, at least they would think..

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Re: WIDTH OF HEAVEN AND WIDTH OF EARTH.. ARE THEY EQUAL AS PER 57:21
« Reply #224 on: May 01, 2018, 03:15:43 AM »
Not this:   :nope:

@ Hawk no countries buddy at the edge.. Try to extremely cross pacific from Japan and let me know.. Don't go towards up and reach America that's how ships going and flights going..


But this!   :yes

Peace jkhan, in reference to your avatar:
No offense jkhan, but a bright light will shine through a less dense object
and appear hidden by an object with more apparent density.
In other words, light has its laws of physics.   
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Question: what is an allegory?

Could you give your definition of what a simile is?


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Re: WIDTH OF HEAVEN AND WIDTH OF EARTH.. ARE THEY EQUAL AS PER 57:21
« Reply #225 on: May 01, 2018, 03:42:22 AM »
allegories / parables are very clear in quran. and dont make a thing which is not an allegory to pretend as allegory..  :laugh:

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Re: WIDTH OF HEAVEN AND WIDTH OF EARTH.. ARE THEY EQUAL AS PER 57:21
« Reply #226 on: May 01, 2018, 05:17:48 AM »
Guys, to me you can keep believing that the earth is flat, that the entire world is conspiring against you, and that you are the few illuminated ones that know the truth, and that those who believe the earth is a globe go to hell.
All the pilots are conspiring, ok.
All the astronauts of all nations are conspiring, ok.
All the sailors are conspiring, ok.
The people of the past that knew that the earth was round were conspiring, ok.
The south pole doesn't exist, and all the people that went there are conspiring, ok.
Still, you can't explain how sunrise and sunsets are possible on a flat earth.
You can't explain why in the north emisphere there are different costellations than in the south emisphere.
You can't explain why all the planets and stars are not flat, but the earth is.
There is not a single flat earther that went to the south pole to prove that there are edges.
There is not a single flat earther that brought a SINGLE VALID EVIDENCE that the earth is flat, instead you keep lying about the globe earth and questioning it, even if there are already answers.
If you were real and not just trolling you would put at least 1$ each one of you and send one of you in the space with a shuttle.
You believe in the flat earth geocentric model because you don't think that Allah is enough mighty to create this giant multiverse.
A debate with a creationist is much much more constructive than a debate with a flat earther.
May Allah guide you all.
Is he who is based on proof from his Lord, as he for whom his evil works have been adorned for him and they followed their desires?
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Re: WIDTH OF HEAVEN AND WIDTH OF EARTH.. ARE THEY EQUAL AS PER 57:21
« Reply #227 on: May 01, 2018, 05:20:28 AM »
Just below are two google searches as it is i copied

The diameter of the Sun is 1,390,000 km. Just for comparison, the diameter of the Earth is only 12,742 km. This means that you could put 109 Earths side-by-side to match the diameter of the Sun. And if you wanted to try and fill up the Sun with Earths, it would take 1.3 million Earths to match the volume of the Sun.May 31, 2010

What star is as big as the sun?
Largest ever yellow star is 1300 times bigger than sun. A monster version of our sun has been found, the largest known member of the family of yellow stars to which our sun belongs. The whopper sun emits light in similar wavelengths as our sun but its diameter is over 1300 times larger.


Now look at the verse 39:67 which says..
Sahih International: They have not appraised Allah with true appraisal, while the earth entirely will be [within] His grip on the Day of Resurrection, and the heavens will be folded in His right hand. Exalted is He and high above what they associate with Him.

Pickthall: And they esteem not Allah as He hath the right to be esteemed, when the whole earth is His handful on the Day of Resurrection, and the heavens are rolled in His right hand. Glorified is He and High Exalted from all that they ascribe as partner (unto Him).


Mohsin Khan: They made not a just estimate of Allah such as is due to Him. And on the Day of Resurrection the whole of the earth will be grasped by His Hand and the heavens will be rolled up in His Right Hand. Glorified is He, and High is He above all that they associate as partners with Him!

Arberry: They measure not God with His true measure. The earth altogether shall be His handful on the Day of Resurrection, and the heavens shall be rolled up in His right hand. Glory be to Him! High be He exalted above that they associate!

Now just imagine just the sun and one star how huge they are compared to earth. And ponder why would god say Earth (this tiny mote) to be separate and handful and the rest is in right hand.. Ponder O quran followers. Isn't this a joke of a verse unless you accept the earth to be as vast and huge as heavens. Problem is as the verse start, they esteem not God such as is due to Him.. That's what you measured with NASA.. keep it up.. i will remind who know who goes and take right path, at least they would think..
Simply because WE ARE THE INHABITANTS OF THAT TINY BIT OF LAND AND THE MESSAGE WAS SENT TO US.
Is he who is based on proof from his Lord, as he for whom his evil works have been adorned for him and they followed their desires?
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Re: WIDTH OF HEAVEN AND WIDTH OF EARTH.. ARE THEY EQUAL AS PER 57:21
« Reply #228 on: May 01, 2018, 06:17:03 AM »
Guys, to me you can keep believing that the earth is flat, that the entire world is conspiring against you, and that you are the few illuminated ones that know the truth, and that those who believe the earth is a globe go to hell.
All the pilots are conspiring, ok.
All the astronauts of all nations are conspiring, ok.
All the sailors are conspiring, ok.
The people of the past that knew that the earth was round were conspiring, ok.
The south pole doesn't exist, and all the people that went there are conspiring, ok.
Still, you can't explain how sunrise and sunsets are possible on a flat earth.
You can't explain why in the north emisphere there are different costellations than in the south emisphere.
You can't explain why all the planets and stars are not flat, but the earth is.
There is not a single flat earther that went to the south pole to prove that there are edges.
There is not a single flat earther that brought a SINGLE VALID EVIDENCE that the earth is flat, instead you keep lying about the globe earth and questioning it, even if there are already answers.
If you were real and not just trolling you would put at least 1$ each one of you and send one of you in the space with a shuttle.
You believe in the flat earth geocentric model because you don't think that Allah is enough mighty to create this giant multiverse.
A debate with a creationist is much much more constructive than a debate with a flat earther.
May Allah guide you all.

said the Lord..
79:27 Are you a more difficult in creation or is the heaven the Lord constructed it?

AND here you denying all His words in explaining how He constructed it,
the very REASONS He send the Scripture for you to give thought so you not to follow other STATEMENT (HADITH) but HIS ONLY.
Apparently it has gone into deaf ears in you.

said the Lord again
79:28 He raised its ceiling and proportioned it.
21:32 And We made the sky a protected ceiling, but they, from its signs, are turning away.

do you believe above us there are PROTECTED CEILING?

of course you dont,
because your God in NASA has drilled you well into believing that Helio the sun God is the center of the UNIVERSE and you are just small little tiny peenie occupying the little space in the small planet earth of the vast universe.

In my God's cosmology,
Earth where I am standing today is the centre of the UNIVERSE and the focus is me.

2:171 The example of those who disbelieve is like that of one who shouts at what hears nothing but calls and cries cattle or sheep - deaf, dumb and blind, so they do not understand.


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Re: WIDTH OF HEAVEN AND WIDTH OF EARTH.. ARE THEY EQUAL AS PER 57:21
« Reply #229 on: May 01, 2018, 06:37:47 AM »
Guys, to me you can keep believing that the earth is flat, that the entire world is conspiring against you, and that you are the few illuminated ones that know the truth, and that those who believe the earth is a globe go to hell.
All the pilots are conspiring, ok.
All the astronauts of all nations are conspiring, ok.
All the sailors are conspiring, ok.
The people of the past that knew that the earth was round were conspiring, ok.
The south pole doesn't exist, and all the people that went there are conspiring, ok.
Still, you can't explain how sunrise and sunsets are possible on a flat earth.
You can't explain why in the north emisphere there are different costellations than in the south emisphere.
You can't explain why all the planets and stars are not flat, but the earth is.
There is not a single flat earther that went to the south pole to prove that there are edges.
There is not a single flat earther that brought a SINGLE VALID EVIDENCE that the earth is flat, instead you keep lying about the globe earth and questioning it, even if there are already answers.
If you were real and not just trolling you would put at least 1$ each one of you and send one of you in the space with a shuttle.
You believe in the flat earth geocentric model because you don't think that Allah is enough mighty to create this giant multiverse.
A debate with a creationist is much much more constructive than a debate with a flat earther.
May Allah guide you all.

You make too much sense IsaMuslim.

@jkhan

 :) still you have not answered:

Peace jkhan, in reference to your avatar:
No offense jkhan, but a bright light will shine through a less dense object
and appear hidden by an object with more apparent density.
In other words, light has its laws of physics.   

Question: what is an allegory?

Could you give your definition of what a simile is?



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